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My wait begins

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  • #201
far2easy said:
Maybe frank just values the situation, doesn't want to fuck it up so he just goes with the flow. Maybe if you told him the truth about you and Sue he could just go for broke.

Just what I was thinking earlier. Remember, Steve was instrumental in choosing Frank. They wanted someone close and safe. There is still a friendship there, that Frank is trying to protect. An "I don't want to come between you guys" type of hesitancy. If Steve and Sue told him the whole story, it could be different between Sue and Frank. He does have the potential. Steve has seen him in action, and Sue acknowledges how good he is at satisfying her.
On the other hand, If Sue could find an 'unmarried Brad', on her own, like Will says she can. Wow!!! No one knows what would happen.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #202
I think that Frank Has shown Sue all He has to offer. Weather He can play at being a Dom who knows? But thats all it will be Playing. Sue knows this. Subs can tell real Doms from Play acting ones. I'm sure Sue would have drawn any Dom tendencies out of Frank by now. They have had some pretty good sex. But there some itchs that Sue has that Frank does not reach.
 
  • #203
I think Sue needs to call Don back and see if a rekindeling is in order. This time, they can both get what they want...Sue a huge, dominating cock and Don the exclusivity.
 
  • #204
WILL/ Frank.
i think you are both wrong on this one something happened when thay were away togather that sue now think's that frank has what it take's to do what she want's.

and if anyone would know it would be the one that is his or her lover. so all we can do is wait and see what happen's. from here on.
 
  • #205
dana007 said:
WILL/ Frank.
i think you are both wrong on this one something happened when thay were away togather that sue now think's that frank has what it take's to do what she want's.

and if anyone would know it would be the one that is his or her lover. so all we can do is wait and see what happen's. from here on.

Your right about that. But I still remember Sue saying something about telling Frank his place. No sub tells their Dom where their place is. Its the other way around.
 
  • #206
SoonToBe said:
"...this isn't a competition between you two...". At first I thought it was something she was coming up with on the fly but then she continued and pointed at me and said "you are my husband and he is not." She pointed at Frank and said "you are my lover" followed by "this trip isn't going to change that". Both Frank and I started to say something and she said "I'm not done yet".

Well Sue does! I keep going back to post #98 and Sue is telling both men where their place is.

I know, You will say that Frank is no Dom!! But she told Don where to go, too.

Sue may want to be 'dominated' but she also enjoys being in control. Brad was the best at doing what she wanted. As I said earlier, If she could find another man like him. She would be happy.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #207
Soon,
Did Frank take any pictures of Sue or him during their 2nd honeymoon? Or at least that they shared with you?
 
  • #208
Harry2614 said:
Well Sue does! I keep going back to post #98 and Sue is telling both men where their place is.

I know, You will say that Frank is no Dom!! But she told Don where to go, too.

Sue may want to be 'dominated' but she also enjoys being in control. Brad was the best at doing what she wanted. As I said earlier, If she could find another man like him. She would be happy.

Cheers, Harry

You are right about that. I still get the feeling Frank ain't doing it for her like he use to. Right now he's like a comfortable pair of shoes thats all broken in. They're do for now. And one thing I'm guilty of and everyone else seems to be guilty of is. Telling Sue how She should be feeling. And what She should be doing. For that Sue I'm Sorry. Its Your Life. You Have Every Right To Live It As You See Fit!!!!
 
  • #209
WIILL
you are right about that we all are doing it in one way or the other. and not one of us know how sue feel about all of this. thank you for posting it for us to read and post back about. enjoy the ride. and hope it last a long time.

STB keep us posted.
 
  • #210
dana007 said:
WIILL
you are right about that we all are doing it in one way or the other. and not one of us know how stb and sue feel about all of this. thank you for posting it for us to read and post back about. enjoy the ride. and hope it last a long time.

STB keep us posted.

No, Not STB He has told us his feeling in great detail. But We have never heard one word from Sue as far as I know.
 
  • #211
Will,
If you read back to any of STB's posts, you will see that Sue never comments. This is because Steve has kept this site private from her. Sue is ******* of ANYTHING that is said here, so cannot have any opinion of any of us. It wouldn't as it does if she did if you think about it.
 
  • #212
peakmb said:
Will,
If you read back to any of STB's posts, you will see that Sue never comments. This is because Steve has kept this site private from her. Sue is ******* of ANYTHING that is said here, so cannot have any opinion of any of us. It wouldn't as it does if she did if you think about it.

One thing I learned living with a woman. Never assume anything is a secret from them. They know more than You often think. They may not say anything. But don't take their silence for ignorance.
 
  • #213
Hey all. Here on a rainy Sunday while Sue is out shopping with our daughter.

I saw the last few posts here and wanted to take the time to answer them as well as share some of the things we've been talking about (and teasing me about too).

From what I see, Sue isn't into the computer and web that much. She'll watch YouTube videos with her favorite country music, she'll send some Email every now and then but beyond that, she's not really into being online. Maybe we're old-fashioned, this is my outlet for my thoughts - and yes, I've blocked it on our router - but she's much more the magazine and printed-story type of person. I suppose it works better for her as I've watched her masturbate many times and she enjoys having a magazine laid out on the bed (or printed story) and her toys and lubricants handy - as opposed to me enjoying porn on the computer and just needing my right hand free.

Will - you may be correct about Frank. As I said, one thing I noticed was that she isn't/doesn't/hasn't really mentioned him by name or shared with me anything other than her own parts of their time away. As I said, it's a bit anticlimactic as I expected a bit more. Oh, she'll tease me with it as I'll share in a moment but I honestly feel that this trip was more of her own desires and I think, fulfilling them, than it was to get more out of or closer to Frank. It's actually a bit weird that they spent so much time together and she won't now see him till Thursday.

Other than describing her own experience - she hasn't really described anything special or unique or otherwise about Frank. I haven't heard about much "romantic" between them other than the moments she shared such as when they checked in or other points when the thought of them being a couple seemed to turn her on.

To be honest, I think Frank is just a pastime in a way right now. At least in my head, she doesn't seem to want more from him - as I said above, I feel now that this trip was more about her being able to maybe know that she can let herself go - but for a while now, I have felt that there isn't as much passion in her regarding him. In a way, everyone's posts here plus what I'm seeing, is making me think that she's literally using Frank, maybe until the next guy that turns her on comes along? I am thinking, or rather, know, that at this point in this evolution of her, that she enjoys and wants to have a lover in addition to a husband.

I have given things a lot of thought and I wanted to share my conclusion before going much further. Sue is a submissive at heart. She is controlling of a situation - perhaps to keep it within boundaries, or to directly or indirectly set a goal - but she is then, when she can feel comfortable in letting go, that she in fact does want to do so. We have always enjoyed a lot of variety in our sex - including her enthusiastic response to what we did together regarding dom/sub. Whether it was master/slave role-playing, spanking or other types of experiences, or even her being ****** into experiences like when I took her naked at night out into our backyard while the neighbor teens were in their yard just beyond the fence. But I also know that I cannot do this all the time with her - it's just not me / not us. So, my realization is that she would like to find someone a bit more forceful - perhaps not as extreme as Don - or perhaps not quite as rigid. Actually, watching this side of her come out, I think I can see how she might want a bit more of an opposite of me. The warm loving husband with me, and perhaps a more physical and demanding lover to fulfill her emerging desires?

To me, this seems more in line with what she wants. One of the comments that she shared and we've talked about is essentially from her point - whats the point in denying me more if it only gives her less sex too. And what we've talked about is what she's said already, the Frank isn't the guy who would want her much more often and he's certainly not the kind of guy who will make demands (requests?) of her.

Anyway - there's more to share but Sue just called and she's on her way home so I'll end this post now and save the rest for later or tomorrow.
 
  • #214
Sue!!! A Sub!!!! Are You Sure???? :eek:



wish i thought of that.
 
  • #216
STB
great post and glad you and sue have had a good weekend togather so far. enjoy and have fun.

keep us posted
 
  • #217
Stb maybe it's time to start looking around for a true bull? Maybe start trolling or advertising some sites together? Wouldn't that be interesting? To sit down and help find the bull that will turn her on, make her his, and deny you her pussy!
 
  • #218
SoonToBe said:
One of the comments that she shared and we've talked about is essentially from her point - whats the point in denying me more if it only gives her less sex too.

That comment is dangerous. That means Sue would indeed deny you more if you could find someone to fill that space. This is a marked shift from the beliefs that both of you held some time ago - that while she may play around, she would never deny you. Now I may be reading the comment wrongly - but it seems to say that she would gladly deny you if she gets to play.
 
  • #220
Only have a moment - saw your comment Raks.
Perhaps you see a side to it that I don't - but my thought is that she wants to go along with my (now) obvious enjoyment of her denying me, but that also leaves her going without too. I suppose it's dangerous, but so is everything we are doing. She still says that she would never deny me - and I still believe it, that if I really needed to feel her, that she would welcome me. Perhaps that is something I should test her on at some point.

I will post more of what we've talked about recently, it may fill in some gaps. All good, at least to me.
 
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