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My wait begins

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  • #221
far2easy said:
Stb maybe it's time to start looking around for a true bull? Maybe start trolling or advertising some sites together? Wouldn't that be interesting? To sit down and help find the bull that will turn her on, make her his, and deny you her pussy!

On that vein of thought, and since Sue has already removed her rings and became as a 'girlfriend' to Frank, how about her just going out, on her own, and 'dating'. without her rings, like going to clubs where singles hang out, like she did as Don's girlfriend.
Something to think about!

As will said, a dom could sopt her even in a grocery store.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #222
Whats makes anyone think Sue is not on the "Hunt"?
 
  • #223
Hey all. Harry/Will - I don't see Sue going out looking for guys. Our social circles don't really involve people or circumstances when that could go on. Sue's not really the kind to go out to clubs and such alone and at least now, I don't see her wanting to put an ad up on a website. I say that is for now - I CAN see her doing these things if/when things end with Frank or if/when she tires of him and decides for herself that she wants more and isn't willing to leave it to chance or coincidence as has happened thus far.

We've had some pretty frank (hey - a pun!) discussions on things including denial and her admission of being turned on by me not cumming in her. As I stated earlier, she says she doesn't find herself being turned on directly by denying me - and that's what leads back to what I posted earlier. If she didn't have a lover, she would not deny me at all because as she says "denying you is then denying me". So, when last night after we'd finished having sex she told me that she'll be seeing Frank this Thursday again and as she did so she said "so these will be going back on" and with that she stepped into her panties and pulled them up.

Now, we've talked more, much more, about her feelings on all of this. She says it does turn her on in many ways knowing she is denying me AND will be having sex with Frank next, but just withholding it from me doesn't do all that much for her - yes, knowing it turns me on does give her satisfaction but that's not enough on its own. She said that this part of it IS a turn-on for her in many ways - empowerment in that she is controlling not just her own sex, but also mine and Franks. It also turns her on that she is keeping her husband out of her pussy while she waits/prepares to see her lover. As she said it "it turns me on that my lover will have me next and not you".

We talked about resuming our Wednesday routine and she opened up that when she knows she's seeing Frank, that it turns her on intensely to see me "waste my cum" especially when she's seeing Frank the next night. She said that seeing me jerk-off and cum like that also conveys to her that I truly want her to be with Frank and that too turns her on. And that obviously led into the whole discussion we'd beaten-around-the-bush on which is what she's said about my not cumming in her.

She said she's convinced that having just Frank cum in her as much as he did before and during their trip - that it really was part of what helped her to let go and enjoy herself as she did. She also said that she can almost "feel" the difference in her desire for him since she's been back and I've resumed having sex with her. She's admitted that she really didn't think it would affect her and she admits that she's unsure if it's mental (just knowing I'm not cumming in her) or if it's really physical (hormonal?). The thing is, she's also said that she doesn't want it to be something that we never do again (me cum in her) but that she'd like it to be something that "worked for both of us". Of course she asked me how I felt about it and I told her that it was part of the same feeling of denial that I was turned on about, just another side of the same feeling and desires - and repeated the same thing I'd said all along and what she'd said - that it needs to work for both of us and that I too didn't want it to be something that eventually came between us if it went on too long. So I asked the million dollar question - I asked her "is it the sex itself? or is it just me cumming?" She didn't understand what I meant so I said "is it that we don't have sex at all? or is it just that you don't want me to cum in you?" and before she answered I said it - "what if I pulled out or even used a condom?". She smiled at me and said she didn't know the answer to that and she was honest - she said that she didn't know how she'd feel if the only difference was that I just didn't cum in he but we still had sex. Before I could answer and discuss it more she said "but it doesn't matter because Frank isn't the guy I'd want to try it out with" and she reiterated what she'd said earlier about him not being that-kind-of-guy. In response I told her that when she felt she was ready to talk about it more, that I'd be there and that as long as we talked about it, that I was sure we'd find some arrangement that worked for us.

So, last night in bed she brought out some new teasing taunts. As we got started last night she began to throw in some new teases "better have me now while you still can" and as we were fucking she would look up at me and say "better make it good, this could be the last time for a while" and at one point she even said "maybe you should pull out at the end and see how it is" and "maybe a condom would work - keep your cum out of me?". Between all of that and what she teases me with normally "Franks going to have me next" and the like - that I soon was at the bursting point! She pulled her knees way back and said to me in this sexy voice "this is how Frank liked it" and she wasn't arching her back, just pulling her legs back to her chest - and wow did that feel intense. She cooed at me "come on give it to me good so you don't mind waiting till Friday to have me". Just hearing her say it all plus the conversation we'd had put me on the edge and a second later she teased "pretend it's the last time you'll have me". OMG - that did it - just how she said it did it to me - I blasted a huge load into her pussy - enough that she squealed too! It felt to me like it was huge and she confirmed it a few moments later when it came gushing back out of her. She looked up at me and said "one day you're not going to make this much of a mess in me" and she giggled and pulled me close and at that point she said "unless you need to, I'll always be here if you need to, you know that baby".

So - that pretty much brings everyone up to date. I'm not sure if I answered everyone's questions or issues - I'm not even sure if I answered my own. I just know that for now, I'm not worried about her and Frank and when/if that changes, well, that's when I think we'll have turned to a new page in the book.
 
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Steve. Go back and read what You wrote. Things are coming to an end with Frank. Sue does not have to say goodbye for her to start looking around. Frank may not even know he's been replaced until well after he's been replaced. If sue were a man. We would say she is thinking with her cock. Well, She is thinking with her pussy. Nothing wrong with this!!!!! She has every right to. Now I didn't say she is clubing or put add's up on web sites. But Her eyes and ears are wide open right now. (I wonder if one of her friends told her about Ashley Madison). Though She could have read about it in one of Her magazines. She is starting to network.

Steve Think back to how some of the other men came into her life? Don't think for a second Sue does not talk on some level to other women. No Steve You don't know them all. No husband does!!!! You can be married to a person forever. And there are still things You don't know. Always assume there are things You don't know. Because there are.


Steve, I was wondering where does Sue shop? :cool:
 
  • #225
Will, I don't doubt you're right about her losing interest in Frank. As I said, I've noticed her passion has waned a bit. But I also know she feels comfortable right now. Perhaps as passions continue to decrease she'll desire more. But I think there's still some legs in what is going on so this may play out over a few months maybe. I'm sure she talks to people at work as well as out - so I suppose it could happen. But I don't think there's anyone she talks to explicitly.

I do think about how other guys came into her life and you're right, she did have a role in them - I'd been thinking that they approached her, but you are corrrect, I am sure she displayed some signals.

Sue shops at several outdoor malls nearby or online. I suppose the malls offer an opportunity for her to encounter other guys. There are also a number of businesses that she frequents where I'd never really thought of her making a connection, but I suppose it's possible.

All I know is that she's put her panties back on this morning after a week of "normalcy" and damn is it turning me on to think about again.
 
  • #226
LOL, Steve That One Went Over Your Head. I Want The address for Myself.
 
  • #227
Lol here too - didn't realize you were throwing your name in the ring....
 
  • #228
SoonToBe said:
Will, I don't doubt you're right about her losing interest in Frank. As I said, I've noticed her passion has waned a bit. But I also know she feels comfortable right now. Perhaps as passions continue to decrease she'll desire more. But I think there's still some legs in what is going on so this may play out over a few months maybe. I'm sure she talks to people at work as well as out - so I suppose it could happen. But I don't think there's anyone she talks to explicitly.

I do think about how other guys came into her life and you're right, she did have a role in them - I'd been thinking that they approached her, but you are corrrect, I am sure she displayed some signals.

Sue shops at several outdoor malls nearby or online. I suppose the malls offer an opportunity for her to encounter other guys. There are also a number of businesses that she frequents where I'd never really thought of her making a connection, but I suppose it's possible.

All I know is that she's put her panties back on this morning after a week of "normalcy" and damn is it turning me on to think about again.

Comfortable does not make for Hot Lust. Yea it could go for a few months. But Frank is on His way out. I dumped a few women. And I was dumped by a few. (Hard to believe, I know).
 
  • #229
Re: Sue & Frank

Just wondering, and maybe you actually don't know, But did Sue & Frank 'share expenses' on the trip to Charlotte? Like plane fare and Hotel.

What I am thinking is that If Frank bore the cost of the whole trip, Sue will consider that she owe's him some more time together.
If they 'split it down the middle', she don't.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #230
Harry2614 said:
Just wondering, and maybe you actually don't know, But did Sue & Frank 'share expenses' on the trip to Charlotte? Like plane fare and Hotel.

What I am thinking is that If Frank bore the cost of the whole trip, Sue will consider that she owe's him some more time together.
If they 'split it down the middle', she don't.

Cheers, Harry

Good point.
 
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You know that turns a lot of women on!!!
 
  • #232
Sue (and I) paid for her airfare (it was like $308 round-trip) but since he was going to be getting a hotel room for himself, that it wasn't an additional cost for the hotel. I'm sure her company during and after dinner was worth his costs to pay :)

It seems like such a change now with her - that I no longer feel I have to lead her into further desires. It's a bit scary but there is no one else I'd want to be on this ride with.

Will - I re-read what you'd posted earlier about her "thinking with her pussy". I suppose you're right. It's so refreshing to see her not hiding her own desires and (finally) wanting to experience them. It is bringing back such memories of how she was long ago. She was never outwardly slutty - but under the covers, smoldering hot.
 
  • #233
A lot of men make the mistake of thinking women never think like that. Big Mistake!!!! Women have a sex drive. And its not just tied to love. It can be just like a man's. Sex for sex sake.
 
  • #234
That is what I am coming to see now in the full. It's interesting to see her rekindle how she used to feel about sex. Oh to return to the late-70s/early-80's again when sex was so much more free and open. A part of me is very interested to see how far her desires go - I might even say I was excited if she'd return to her more promiscuous days just after her divorce and just before we met - as I said, I'd only heard the other guys talk about her as well as her own admissions.

Oh well - this certainly isn't how I would have thought our 50s would be going. Seems menopause has set my little tiger free...
 
  • #235
SoonToBe said:
That is what I am coming to see now in the full. It's interesting to see her rekindle how she used to feel about sex. Oh to return to the late-70s/early-80's again when sex was so much more free and open. A part of me is very interested to see how far her desires go - I might even say I was excited if she'd return to her more promiscuous days just after her divorce and just before we met - as I said, I'd only heard the other guys talk about her as well as her own admissions.

Oh well - this certainly isn't how I would have thought our 50s would be going. Seems menopause has set my little tiger free...

Men and women have the same desires. Sometimes we become what others think we should be. Not always for the better. Women are not surpose to like sex the same as men (BS). Sue's kids are growing. Leaving her. She is free to become more of Her own person. Explore her feelings
 
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SoonToBe said:
"That's what I am coming to see now in the full. It's interesting to see her rekindle how she used to feel about sex. Oh to return to the late-70s/early-80's again when sex was so much more free and open. A part of me is very interested to see how far her desires go - I might even say I was excited if she'd return to her more promiscuous days just after her divorce and just before we met - as I said, I'd only heard the other guys talk about her as well as her own admissions.
Oh well - this certainly isn't how I would have thought our 50s would be going. Seems menopause has set my little tiger free."

Steve, That's just what I was saying earlier about her going out and 'dating' again. Why do you think she went to Charlotte as Frank's 'girlfriend'? She was trying it out, and she told you she liked it!!
You want her to "return" and "rekindle" but you don't want her to "go out to the clubs"???

I'm starting to agree with Will. I think he may know more about Sue than you think.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #237
Harry, not that I don't want her to, but more that I don't see her doing it. I don't see her being into the drinking club scene. Actually to think about what could work for her would be for her to go back to night-school and finish the rest of her graduate-school education. That'd be something that could work and ****** her to a wide range of people. Actually surprised that I just thought of this.

But lets cross that bridge when/if she gets there. Till then, I'll enjoy her nightly panty teasing of me. Dare say I even missed it last week.
 
  • #238
STB
glad everything is some what back to normal for you now.

that sound's like it would work for sue. you like to read rick and brenda's thread and she got togather with an older black that she found in her night school class. and he was some what of a dom. with her. that could be a very good idea to find someone else for sue. if it come's to that.

keep us posted. and how is sue's dad doing now.
 
  • #239
Believe it or not You can go to a club and NOT drink. You know I feel like no one is hearing Me. There are so many other places to meet people.

Ok Steve I think I'm understanding You at last. Your comfortable with the Sue and Frank Thing.

Listen to Will That car is running out of gas. The engine is about shot. Sue has aready got her eye open for a newer model. You may like the old one. But Sue's the one who's gotta drive it. And its losing its zing for her.

Now have you talked with her about how to find a replacement? Or are You just going to cast her to the wolves? Your input could help her. (Not to mention Your own life down the road). But hey don't listen to Me. What do I know? I never just tell You what You want to hear. But I try to tell You what You need to hear.
 
  • #240
Just curious Stb, would you prefer the condoms-only or complete denial of penetration not permanently but longer term denial? My guess is that Sue would already cut you off more often as it turns her on immensely but reads your distress and backs down saying she wouldn't hurt you or not right now. She wants to put more limitations on your access, you should let her and tell her you are okay with it. I tend to agree that you need to find a Don-like person to push her to where she wants to go which is to tell you that her pussy is off-limits. She is completely into it!
 
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