Pretty Good Sign, I think

[Custer Laststand]

Cuckykny,

Thanks for the update. It sounds like you're getting close to moving your hotwife-to-be forward, with her full acquiescence, in a substantial way. Re.:

Another bold move. Finally, an opportunity presented itself for my "adult club suggestion."

and:

(@Custard...I know you don't think this [visiting a swing club] is the best idea, but honestly it is all I have)

Actually, I think taking your hotwife-in-waiting to visit a swing club as an observer, not a participant — unless or until she wants to participate — is an excellent way to proceed. On 10 Nov. 2014, one of my comments was:

.... Re. visiting a swing club as observers (not participants): sometime in the evening, after a few drinks, you might ask your secretly-aspiring hot wife... jokingly, of course, perhaps while fondling her thighs or tits... what she would think of going to a live porn show sometime. Then, while she's trying to decide how to answer, prod her with something along the lines: "I know you'd like that, wouldn't you... right? Hey, admit it... you'd like that, wouldn't you...?"

More recently I've made further positive comments along those lines — so, as you can see, I don't think it's a "bad idea" at all.

--This morning my (to be) hotwife was getting ready for work. I came into the bedroom and caught her in nothing but her robe. As I started rubbing on her from behind I mentioned that we had never settled on the fantasy football 'prize'. Here is our conversation:

Wife: (playfully) What twisted sex thing are you going to want if you win?
Me: (nervously) hmmm, I was thinking if I win, I would like for us to visit an adult club
Wife: (to my surprise, she doesn't shoot the idea down; instead she asks): What happens at an 'adult club'?
--She thought I was referring to a strip club. AND she told me that back in college her girlfriends and her would occasionally go out to male strip clubs (Chip-n-Dale dancers). She said she always felt a little out of place, but it was fun and exciting.
--This was the first time she had told me this...

Good. Openly telling you that for the first time ever was definitely a positive development.

.... This process has definitely built better trust between us, and I have learned she isn't so innocent. I let her know of my approval for her to visit these types of clubs with her girlfriends.

Excellent. You responded in the right way...

Me: (again nervous) Well, it is where like-minded adults go to have fun with their fantasies. We don't have to DO anything, but maybe we could find people interested in sharing our lifestyle desire. Just check it out, meet people, and have fun....learn more about hotwifing.
Wife: Ok, but I am not sure I could relax enough to enjoy myself.

Hey, the purpose would not be to "relax"... rather, it would be to get turned on by the "live porn shows."

Me: (still nervous and now doing my best to hold back my excitement) Yeah, me either. But, I think it would be something fun and different for us to try.

Well, that was a pretty good response. You stayed cool...

Wife: (curious) How did you learn about adult clubs?
Me: I told her from the Cuckold community (she already knows I visit this site).
Wife: Have you checked any out?
Me: Somewhat, but I still need to find us one I think we will both enjoy.
Wife: Ok, you find your club.

She told you, in essence, she wants to do it...

Me: You never know you could still win, what do you want?
Wife: (not mentioning what she wants): Oh, I am sure you're gonna win.

It sounds like she intends to make sure you're "gonna win" (which should be possible if you have a bet going with her based on "fantasy football," whatever that is).

--Definitely a pretty good sign. I am trying to play this cool, but I am raging hard with excitement that she did not immediately shoot down this request.

A-yup. Her response to your question, "if you win what will you want?", suggests she wants to carry out your suggestion and join you in visiting a swing club.

--Any adult/swing club first timer suggestions? Thanks.

Nope. You're on your own. But, it sounds like you've already located a swing club near your place. My only suggestion at this point is: go for it. If the experience turns out to fall short of what you were hoping for, try to continue encouraging your hotwife-in-waiting while looking for an alternative swing club that's not too far away. I.e., be prepared to "shop around." Your most recent posts (above) suggest your hotwife-to-be is primed.


—Custer

 

[zippless]

Sounds like you are well on your way. Tell everyone you are new to all of this as this is your first time and you are very nervous. Tell them you are looking for mmf threesome. Take your time you do not have to do anything you do not want to do. Take baby steps. Remember the cardinal rule ' No means no'. Relax and get to know people. Swingers are the most sociable and kind people you will ever meet. Remember they were newbies once and have not forgot how nerve wracking it can be.

 

[Cuckykny]

Just a quick update.

--Things are progressing. This week is the last week of our bet. Can't make this stuff up, but we are actually tied! Will post after the games on Sunday to let everyone (still) reading this if I am swinger club bound.

--On another note, I made another bold move and introduced my Hotwife to another website...cuckoldmarriage dot info. It is a pretty informative site with good introduction and advanced articles with very suggestive/tasteful pics. And it has a chat feature that I showed her how to use to meet other couples in the lifestyle...and of course Bulls.

--Happy Holidays!

 

[Cuckykny]

--Oh, fudge! I did not win the bet...but at least it got us talking about the lifestyle and my desire for us to visit a swingers club. Not sure where we go from here to prevent us from ending up in fantasy limbo forever. Will be interested in getting her feedback from the new website...I know she has visited it a couple of times. Not sure if she has chatted with anyone.

--I am thinking of letting her make the next move...she obviously knows my desires. Thoughts?

 

[slammer69]

Hi Cuckykny, I am glad to see things are progressing for you. Your hotwife certainly looks like she could do with a real mans cock to help her feel satisfied. My wife and I are still in fantasy limbo but enjoying it, hopefully we'll both get to becoming serving cuckolds in the near future. Cannot wait to see a big fat cock in my wife and clean up afterwards yum!

 

[Cuckykny]

Hey Slammer...glad to hear you are also making progress. If you get cucked before me, definitely let me know. We are getting ever so close. I really feel all I need is the right situation...a location where she can feel comfortable enough to release her inner slut. I know it exsists and love bringing it out of her with the toy and bedroom play, but I really look forward to watching a Bull making her his slut.

--Does your wife ever bring denial into the mix? If not, you should introduce her into it. There is nothing like the rush of bringing your 'slut' to climax and then her dening you of sexual release.

Hope for success!

 

[Cuckykny]

Just an update...and pretty good signs of progress.

#1. The other night my Hotwife (-2b) and I were messing around in bed and she decided to deny me, but let me pleasure her (my new favorite thing to do). As I was playing with her body she actually instructed me to go get the Bull (black dildo). It was an amazing sight watching her body orgasm...knowing I would have to go to bed with a raging hard-on.

#2. I checked her computer search history...and she has visited the other sites I recommended for her and the chat room. I forgot to ask her what she thought about them or who she chatted with...but I will. She even watched a video on an 'Introduction to Cuckolding for Women'...I found it on another site starting with a 'x'...again, I didn't get any feedback on the video yet, but she still enjoys role playing...so, she must be ok with what the lifestyle offers wife's. Additionally, she did look up 'adult clubs' and visited a site. So, I know she knows what I mean when we role play being at an adult club and she ends up getting f* by another male.

#3. During foreplay, she asked me if I wanted her to put on her anklet, 'becuase I know that is what you want' (with her sexy smirk). Of course, I said, 'YES'. So, she went and got it and handed it to me to put it on. I was so excited that without thinking I started to put it on her left ankle. She stopped me and said, 'Ah hmm, it goes on the RIGHT ankle'.

#4. The other day in the car I asked her what she was looking at on her phone. She told me that the song on the radio reminded her of a (male) friend in college and was googleing him.

--I am hoping to close the deal soon...just looking for the right situation and Bull.

Excited--cuckykny

 

[Custer Laststand]

Sounds promising. I notice your first post in this thread was only about 5 months ago, and I see you joined this forum only around 1.2 years ago. It hasn't been unusual for forum members to mention it took them on the order of 2 to 5 years to persuade their wives to begin taking lovers, so your wife seems to be making fairly fast progress. Keep up your good work.

 

[Custer Laststand]

You might suggest your wife begin following "scandalouswomen.com" e-zine (if she isn't already), which has many articles that may be of interest to her. For instance:

"Into Cuckolding"
http colon doubleslash www dot scandalouswomen dot com slash into-cuckolding slash

 

[Cuckykny]

Sounds promising. I notice your first post in this thread was only about 5 months ago, and I see you joined this forum only around 1.2 years ago. It hasn't been unusual for forum members to mention it took them on the order of 2 to 5 years to persuade their wives to begin taking lovers, so your wife seems to be making fairly fast progress. Keep up your good work.

Custard, yes I have had the desire to develop a cuckold relationship for 2-3 years after watching my first cuckold porn video. I had never heard of this lifestyle before that, but really felt (and still feel) strongly connected to the action in the movie...physically and mentally. I knew I was hooked, but I thought maybe this was just for the porn-stars and felt my wife surely would never be interested in the lifestyle...maybe think I was a perv and/or consider us for therapy. So, I kept trying to sweep this emotion under the rug. But with that came frustration...those who are beta-males, know the desire to be cuck'd is great and needs to be attended to by an Alpha-male. So, I decided to join the site and share my feelings through some stories/fantasy and learn more about the lifestyle, especially ideas to get the wife into the lifestyle. After reading some other posts, I tried the blind fold idea. We had done some tamer role play before but nothing like that night. So, I posted it to let other wannbe's know. And then with your guidance and encouragement, I just decided to let her know my desire to develop a cuckold lifestyle. I am so glad I told her...and of course, she doesn't think I am a just a perv. And I felt so relieved getting it out in the open. I think/know she was also looking to spice things up a bit...or maybe just gain back some of her sexual freedom...based on her progress and like I said before she confided to me that she was a little bored with our bedroom routine.

--There is no doubt she knows I want a cuckold-hotwife relationship. She knows I am ok with her being a Hotwife, taking other lovers and denying me. I am too.

--And our bedroom role play is not tame...any more. I will start this week trying to bring it out of the bedroom...i.e. when we are out asking her if she sees any guys she would potentially take as a lover, etc...

 

[Custer Laststand]

Now that your wife is actively pretending to by a hotwife with you, and more-or-less openly looking for and finding info on it online (i.e., she isn't hiding that from you), you might also consider introducing her to:

Modern Directions in Human Sexuality
http colon doubleslash moderndirections dot com slash

which, in my opinion, is the most informative and intelligently-written site on the subject of "cuckold husband / hotwife" marriages. The address will take you to the index page. The site is not pornographic nor is it oriented toward "femdom" relationships. If you look at some of the letters, which are from real people describing real experiences, you'll see what it's all about.

This site went off the radar for quite a while, but more recently has been re-established "under new man agent," as mentioned in the intro. If you read the (short) intro, then start with the "keynote" (top right), then read around in some of the letters (which are not overlong), you'll see what it's all about.

.... I am so glad I told [my wife]... and of course, she doesn't think I am a just a perv. And I felt so relieved getting it out in the open. I [now] think/know she was also looking to spice things up a bit... or maybe just gain back some of her sexual freedom... based on her progress. And, like I said before, she confided to me that she was a little bored with our bedroom routine.

Good. Sounds like you have a shared interest in moving ahead and making this work.

 

[Cuckykny]

An update...

--We still regularly role play a Hotwife/cuck relationship in the bedroom. She still occasionally wears her anklet letting me know she is interested in playing. She has learned more about male sexual denial and has teased me with it. The longest she has denied me is two weeks. I thought I was gonig to explode...and had some of the craziest sexual dreams during that time. We have not messed with cages, but we are just starting to talk about them openly. The thought of being her caged cucked and the possibility that it may send the definitive signal of my acceptance of being her cuck is exciting. A couple of weeks ago I actually gathered the nerve to buy her a little black sexy dress. She was surprised by my taste and loved that I wanted her show off her body a little more. (Photo to come). It was a thrill picking out her clothes and I am sure to buy others...knowing I am attracting potential Bulls.

--The other day when we were talking about the lifestyle, she mentioned, 'does a Bull just take over the act of sex...and if so, whats in it for you (me)?'. I explained to her that a Bull doesn't take over sex, he brings a different sexual experience for the BOTH of us. That as a cuck, I really do take great sexual pleasure through her enjoyment. I am certain she is curious if I have other 'motives', but I am sure she now has a better understanding and hopefully acceptance of my desire.

--Definite progress...she does go online to chat with other couples and Bulls/Doms in the lifetyle. Excitingly, she even has a regular Bull she connects with online.

--Hopefully, I will end this thread soon....to start the 'I am a cuck' thread!

 

[Custer Laststand]

[My wife] has learned more about male sexual denial and has teased me with it. The longest she has denied me is two weeks. I thought I was gonig to explode...and had some of the craziest sexual dreams during that time.

Very good... it sounds like your wife is making progress toward her own sexual liberation.

We have not messed with cages, but we are just starting to talk about them openly. The thought of being her caged cucked and the possibility that it may send the definitive signal of my acceptance of being her cuck is exciting.

This is a sign of real progress. As I may have mentioned previously, many (if not most) married women who are encouraged to take lovers by their wannabe cuckold husbands suspect, secretly or openly, that their husbands have an ulterior motive in mind — to have an excuse to pursue other women. Wearing a male chastity device for your wife, with her your sole key holder, will probably be the most convincing of all possible expressions of sincerity on your part.

A couple of weeks ago I actually gathered the nerve to buy her a little black sexy dress. She was surprised by my taste and loved that I wanted her to show off her body a little more. (Photo to come). It was a thrill picking out her clothes and I am sure to buy others... knowing I am attracting potential Bulls.

Excellent... good work.

The other day when we were talking about "the lifestyle," she asked: 'does a bull just take over the act of sex... and if so, whats in it for you (me)?' I explained to her that a Bull doesn't take over sex, he brings a different sexual experience for the BOTH of us. That as a cuck, I really do take great sexual pleasure through her enjoyment. I am certain she is curious if I have other 'motives', but I am sure she now has a better understanding and hopefully acceptance of my desire.

Or, you might have pointed out to your wife that if she takes lovers, that will intensify sex for her on both physical and psychological levels, and for you as well, indirectly, as her cuckold — by intensifying your sexual pleasure, as you stated, through her heightened sexual pleasures.

Re. "other motives:" see my comments in reply to yours saying both of you are now getting turned on by the concept of you wearing a chastity device for your wife.

You might also point out that the vast majority of men masturbate much more than their wives realize, so wearing a chastity device (with her yoursole key holder, of course) would provide her with means to ensure you aren't masturbating behind her back, thereby reducing your sex drive for her, and would ensure you masturbate only when she gives you permission to do so — and, also, that her "ownership" of your cock would guarantee that she can uncage you only when SHE wants to play.

Definite progress... she goes online to chat with other couples and bulls/doms in "the lifetyle." Excitingly, she even has a regular bull she connects with online.

That's very large forward movement. It's only a short step from your wife talking about fucking other men with other married women who do that and find it satisfying, to doing it herself — especially if the potential bull she's talking with lives close enough for her to connect with him.

If you were to set your wife up with a Skype account so she and the potential bull she seems to be attracted to, as well as other potential bulls she decides she might be attracted to, can flirt with each other visually while talking.

Hopefully, I will end this thread soon and start a 'I am a cuck' thread!

I suggest not giving your new thread a name that will soon be out of date after your wife makes you her cuckold. Meanwhile, keep up your good work!

 

[Custer Laststand]

Hopefully, I will end this thread soon....to start an 'I am now a cuckold' thread!

Perhaps your now well-advanced budding cuckoldress will find herself getting wet between her legs, thereby becoming motivated even more strongly, if you were to suggest to her that she read:

"A Woman Who Loves Men,"

here: http colon doubleslash www dot literotica dot com slash s slash a-woman-who-loves-men

then, "A Woman Who Loves More Men,"

here: http colon doubleslash www dot literotica dot com slash s slash a-woman-who-loves-more-men

 

[Cuckykny]

Custard, thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I read the article you had suggested, but that may be a little too much for her. Honestly, if you ever got the chance to meet my wife I am sure you would not think she would even entertain the thought of cuckolding.

--We researched chasity devices together...even though she nods her head in disbelief of my desire to be her caged cuck. I will post a picture of me caged as soon as the device comes in. Oh, and I bought her another dress! Yes, I know I owe pics.

--Interesting tidbit, the other day we were online chatting with a Bull (his name had the word 'breeder' in it. Here is a part of the conversation (again, we were sitting right next to each other):
Wife: what do you breed?
Bull: wives.
Wife: how many kids do you have?
Bull: why? do you want one?
Wife: I would ask my husband, but I know he will say yes.
Bull: you want to feel my big cock stretching your cunt and filling your fertile pussy with my seed?

--Here I thought my wife would be offended and want to quit chatting, but NO. We continued for a bit. That has to be a pretty good sign.
--AND the next morning my wife told me of a wild sex dream she had with a friend's husband (Mike). She told me he fucked her real good. Slow and deep, cumming inside her. She did say that she told him not to cum in her, but he did anyhow. Note: this is the first time in our 15+ year marriage that she has ever told me of a sex dream and openly admitted that it was not with me. I didn't get any other details as I was so hard I took her right there.

--Looking forward to my cage.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Custard, thanks for the feedback and suggestions. ....

You're welcome...

We researched chasity devices together...even though she nods her head in disbelief of my desire to be her caged cuck. I will post a picture of me caged as soon as the device comes in. ....

Has your chastity device arrived? Are you wearing it, and has your wife become your sole keyholder? How's it going on this front?

Re.:

The other day, we were online chatting with a bull (his name had the word 'breeder' in it. Here is a part of the conversation (we were sitting right next to each other):
Wife: what do you breed?
Bull: wives.
Wife: how many kids do you have?
Bull: why? do you want one?
Wife: I would ask my husband, but I know he will say yes. ....

This seems to shed some light on your motivations for participating in this forum. The remainder of your wife's conversation with her prospective bull also sounds promising.

Has she moved forward with arrangements to meet her prospective bull? Or, are they still engaged in online flirting? Any updates?

 

[Cuckykny]

Hopefully the imaged loaded properly. It finally arrived! This is the device (for me) and reading material I purchased for my Hotwife...soon to be keyholder. We are both very new to this aspect of cuckolding, so I bought the book to help guide us/her. I have put it on...it is defintiely snug...not tight and actually comfortable. Looks amazing. I am (nervously) looking forward to be caged.

--I will post my wife's review of the book.

--Any caged cuck's input is welcomed.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Hopefully the images loaded properly.

They did. I "opened" them with no problems...

It finally arrived! This is the device (for me) and reading material I purchased for my Hotwife... soon to be key holder. We are both very new to this aspect of cuckolding, so I bought the book to help guide us/her.

That was very thoughtful of you. No doubt your wife will appreciate it, if she doesn't already...

I have put it on...it is defintiely snug...not tight, and actually comfortable. Looks amazing.

Cool...

I am (nervously) looking forward to being caged.

Really. I would think so...

I will post my wife's review of the book.

Your wife might consider taking some time to try out the various "teasing key holder" recommendations (on you), as opposed to reading her new instruction manual then writing her review straightaway, at the outset.

Will look forward to further updates...

 

[Cuckykny]

Has she moved forward with arrangements to meet her prospective bull? Or, are they still engaged in online flirting? Any updates?

--She has not moved forward in the sense of meeting that particular Bull. They are still engaged with online flirting. She also flirts with other Bulls/Doms. I am so happy (and fully erect) to see her becoming more comfortable flirting with other men right infront of me!

 

[Custer Laststand]

She has not moved forward in the sense of meeting that particular Bull. They are still engaged with online flirting. She also flirts with other Bulls/Doms.

Good for your wife...

I am so happy (and fully erect) to see her becoming more comfortable flirting with other men right infront of me!

As you should be. Sounds like further progress...