Pretty Good Sign, I think

[Custer Laststand]

Your wife seems very responsive...

Some pics. --Comments?

Good figure; nice tits. Your wife looks like a sexually-mature woman who would benefit from maximizing her satisfaction, with you openly acknowledging and accepting her right to do so...

Date night went well. [My wife and I] had a pretty open discussion on many topics including cuckolding/hotwife. She was a little surprised to learn that I have been desiring this type of relationship for over 2 years. She asked some questions regarding the type of material/questions I ask the communities I am a member of. I think she may be interested in becoming a member of a forum, or at least have a place to go to ask other hotwives questions [about her] concerns.

Good; sounds positive. Your budding hotwife is clearly intrigued by your desire to become her self-acknowledged cuckold in a "cuckold husband / hotwife" marriage. It's understandable that she would be interested in joining a forum where she can talk with other married women who cuckold their husbands about the ins and outs (so to speak) of openly taking lovers with your full knowledge and acquiescence.

[My wife] did make a lot of references to the websites I had suggested she visit. So, I am positive she has read all of the material and knows what I desire. This is very exciting for me. She even made several 'small penis' humiliation references towards me. I got pretty turned on.

So much the better. Your wife subjecting you to "small penis humiliation" sounds more and more promising...

She really does not have a Bull 'type' [in mind]. To no surprise, she just needs to find the guy attractive.

That, of course, is what it's all about...

She does enjoy the thought of more romance and passion with another guy...

And this, most especially, is what it's all about...

...but she does not think in terms of meeting a guy just to fuck him. However, she did tell me that sometimes in the afternoons she does become horny and thinks of just being fucked. She said she usually just plays with herself.

No, no... of course not. But, ah-ha! Your wife admits to masturbating in the afternoons, dreaming of sex with a suitably-hot "other man"...

I tried to get her to tell me of the kind of guy she thinks about doing this 'fucking', but she really was not that descriptive (she does get a little embarrassed discussing the 'man').

Your wife may, in fact, have a candidate lover in mine whom she's acquainted with, since it's easier for a woman to be drawn toward the idea of fucking a man she knows than fucking an imaginary stranger. But, for obvious reasons, she may be reluctant to drop any hints re. who that might be, perhaps because it's one of your friends or a work colleague...

I did let her know that this is where I love for her to text me that she is horny and thinking of finding a man to take care of her need (fantasy or reality). She just laughed.

It's a very good idea for you to encourage your wife to send you text messages while you're at work, mentioning (say) that she's feeling so horny she may not be able to satisfy herself with masturbation and is on the verge of going out to seek a lover — and, in fact, for her to actually do so...

Question: best site for a 'Hotwife 2 be' to visit? This site is nice, but I am sure she would not like typing in 'slutwives'.

Good point. A reasonable objection to the renaming of this site (from "cuckolds.com" to "slutwives.com") is that it implies married women who take lovers are not reasonably pursuing their healthy sexual desires, but rather are "sluts," a word that strongly implies they should be "shamed" for not suppressing their healthy sex drives and acknowledging the supposed "ownership rights," held over from long-outdated ancient religious traditions, of their husbands.

You might obtain for your wife, as a gift, a copy of:

Hathaway, Alex, 2011, From Housewife to Cuckoldress (Fannypress, Seattle, Washington, 109 pp. [softcover]).

A companion volume you might consider ordering for yourself and your wife, also by Ms. Hathaway, is: "The Education of a Cuckold." Both are available from online sources.

If you feel like encouraging your wife further with an appropriately-humiliating experience (for you), I suggest accompanying her to a local book store, then standing beside her (meekly) while she special-orders both books from a clerk. Then, when they arrive, again accompany your wife to the bookstore, stand beside her while she requests both books by title, then... as the clerk is ringing them up... says "Pay for them, darling." Then, step forward and pay for the books, then walk behind your wife, holding the books in a small bag, as the two of you exit the bookstore.

 

[hornyaussie4u]

this is the same way my wife are going taking things very slowly but she has her reservations about being the Hotwife but we are seeking that well hung Bull to cuckold me, these pics where of our last time with a Bull.

 

[Cuckykny]

my wife are going taking things very slowly...these pics where of our last time with a Bull.

--Based on the photos, I assume you are being sarcastic?!

 

[2wheel]

Sarcastic, so do I, since you've already been to the well.

 

[Cuckykny]

Date 'Day'

--So yesterday, the Hotwify (btw, she is now very comfortable with that term and enjoys being referred to that...she even refers to herself as a Hotwife) and I (yes, she is comfortable referring to me as her cuck) headed to the city for a day out. She was wearing her 'Hotwife' anklet so I was semi-eroused the whole time. We did set rules that if the anklet did get noticed and a guy flirted with her, she could flirt back if she thought the guy was attractive and I would have to stay to endure the flirting. No, (to my dismay) no Bull(s) noticed the anklet...but just the thought/anguish of my wife potentially flirting with a guy she thought was attractive in front of me and I had to accept it was...thrilling! (wife doesn't understand it, but accepts it as part of my sexual being...best wife).

--After >15 years of marriage, oddly yesterday was the first time we openly discussed her old boyfriends in detail (and a little about my old girlfriends, but I kept it focused to her). For some reason, I did find it exciting to learn about her past boyfriends/lovers. Funny, she mentioned that she really was not into one-night stands, but "that is exactly what you want me to do!" Sexually, I learned her old boyfriends were rather tame. I told her she should be happy that I am giving her another opportunity to re-play the field with my love and support. She just smiled. (She said "she just doesn't understand men and sex").

--Fantasy material. We did walk by a construction project that had 5 Black men working there (was like the plot of most IR porn movies). As we passed by, I could sense they were all staring at my wife. Wish I would have said something to my wife about it looking like the scene of a porn movie to get her reaction. Definitely, going to use that in our next bedroom fantasy while it is fresh in her mind and mine.

--I did introduce her into sexual denial. After we got home, we started to fool around. After some intense foreplay, I went down on her orally (just moving her panties to the side). After bringing her to orgasm, I let her panties cover her wet pussy and I told that I didn't want to go any further. Confused, she asked, "what?". I explained to her that some times I just enjoy watching her orgasm and me being denied. She was puzzled, but accepting and very willing to play. As we talked about it, I reinforced how much her beautiful body turns me on and how I love watching her orgasm. I even put her hand on my still rock hard cock. She offered to take care of it, but again, I told her to make me wait. She agreed. Again, she quipped, "men's sexuality is weird". She said, "so, not cumming during sex is good?!". I explained to her that denial is not 'I have a headache' and neither of us get off, but that you make me get you to orgasm and appreciate that you let me do that, but just tease me. (Maybe, if she cannot 'control' me, I will introduce her to a male chasity device). Thoughts?

--This is a good point to disclose that my wife told me that wife's talk about their sex life and husbands to their girlfriends...after a couple of drinks. So, if your wife's friend (or husband) ever looks at you weird or asks a question on hotwifing/cuckolding don't be shocked. I did learn some of my friends never get oral sex and some are also into 'kinky' lifestyles.

--As we laid there half-naked and talking, my wife did asked THE 'question', "is this something I would like to do for real?". I just paused. She replied/exclaimed, "really". I (very nervously) replied, "yes". She said, "she was not sure if she could do it for real". I explained to her, "that this is the beauty of being a Hotwife...you are in control...you decide when you are ready for a real Bull". She again (and playfully) replied how she just doesn't understand male sexuality. I told her these are things that are just not discussed in HS sex-ed. Male denial. Chasity. Cuckolding. Hotwife. But, these are things that have immense appeal to me. Not just for a couple of days/weeks...years! I again reminded her how much I love her and she is the only desire I have...and even she doesn't want to do it for 'real' right now, keeping the option open and real, provides me a sense of uncertainty that adds to the cuckold fantasy. And I pointed out, "that thinking/fantasying about having JUST sex with another guy, whether it is physical attraction or bigger cock, must be exciting for her?". She readily agreed...with a smile. She told that she would keep the option open...and mentioned that maybe she "would be willing to do oral". (Very happy cuck to be)

--I get a great sense that she would be more open for a Bull, but is held back based on Judaea-Christian definition of marriage and sexuality...as mentioned by Custards Laststand. However, she has come a long way in a short time...letting me take/post pics, the anklet, dildo, etc... This is from a lady that was raised very conservative...she was even brought up thinking masterbation was wrong/immoral...and I am sure the ones 'preaching' this were the same ones jacking off/fingering non-stop!!

--I am looking forward to where this lifestyle fantasy/reality brings us.

 

[Cuckykny]

Good figure; nice tits. Your wife looks like a sexually-mature woman who would benefit from maximizing her satisfaction, with you openly acknowledging and accepting her right to do so...

--Thanks for the comments.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Re.:

Maybe, if [my hotwife-to-be] cannot 'control' me, I will introduce her to a male chasity device. Thoughts?

Elsewhere on the web, a liberated married woman advised other women: "If you keep your husband in a chastity device, cuckolding will follow like night follows day."

I suggest now would be a good time to introduce your budding hotwife to this concept by introducing her to:

Male chastity advantages for women:
http colon doubleslash www dot angelfire dot com slash id2 slash Hawaii slash MaleCh dot html

(after, of course, reading it yourself). If she has a hard time getting her head around why you would want to do such a thing, I suggest pointing out to her that one of the biggest reservations married women have about becoming hotwives is, they fear their husbands just want to use that as an excuse to pursue other women. If you wear a male chastity device, with her your sole key holder, that will be a way of convincing her that you are sincere about wanting to remain faithful while she is free to date, seduce, and fuck other men.

If that idea is just too weird for your wife, and she continues to seem freaked out by it, I suggest going ahead and ordering one yourself, then wearing it with yourself as key holder, and only unlocking it when your wife gives you permission to do so because she wants to play.

After some period of time... two or three weeks? a month? two months?... your wife will begin to see the advantages to her of keeping you in a chastity device (presumably), and chances are she will agree... perhaps even demand... to become your sole key holder.

Reviews & photos of various male chastity devices, by a man who claims to be in a wife-led marriage, can be found here:

http colon doubleslash secretchastityhusband dot blogspot dot com slash 2011 slash 09 slash longterm-chastity-devices-queens-keep dot html?zx=71d5497f1d0576c5

 

[Cuckykny]

A reasonable objection to the renaming of this site (from "cuckolds.com" to "slutwives.com") is that it implies married women who take lovers are not reasonably pursuing their healthy sexual desires, but rather are "sluts," a word that strongly implies they should be "shamed" for not suppressing their healthy sex drives and acknowledging the supposed "ownership rights," held over from long-outdated ancient religious traditions, of their husbands.

--Well said.

 

[Cuckykny]

Custard...thanks for the information. I have not shared the website with my wife...yet. I am positive she would be willing to cage me (maybe wear the key on her anklet) , I am just not 100% sure I want that aspect of the lifestyle. It excites me and scares me at the same time.

--Any caged men have advice or regrets?

--Last night was another awesome night of Hotwife 'fantasy' Sex. One thing I noticed (and would be interested if other men have found this to be true...or maybe unique to us) is that my 'usual' technique does not get her over the edge like it use to since I introduced dildo play. Thoughts? I find I can really get her going, but need the dildo to finish the deal. Last night I had her pretty wet with my fingers and tongue, but felt like I was losing her. ..after 2-3 minutes of this she started to moan a little less and started to get a little dry. I asked her if I should get the 'Bull' she readily agreed and on insertion she was going nuts again and orgasmed pretty hard. I think she thought she may have hurt my 'man' feelings, but I told her how excited I get with orgasms and sometimes my Hotwife needs more than her cuck husband can deliver.

--I wonder if she actually ever considers the real thing? I know I have planted the seed and continue to nature it. Who would have guessed getting cuck'd would take so much work. I am looking forward to the lifestyle benefits for both of us.

 

[Custer Laststand]

I am positive [my wife] would be willing to cage me, and maybe wear the key on her anklet.

Ah-ha! If so, that's VERY positive. It implies your budding hotwife would be willing to take control of your sexuality in order to take control of hers.

I am just not 100% sure I want that aspect of the lifestyle. It excites me and scares me at the same time.

Yes, of course... that prospect is supposed to fill you simultaneously with excitement and fear (or "fear and loathing," as Hunter S. Thompson would have put it, no doubt).

It would probably be, however, the single largest step you can take at this point to demonstrate to your aspiring hotwife your sincerity in saying you will commit to remaining faithful to her while she steps up, steps out and begins dating, seducing and fucking other men. Thinking of it as demonstrating a willingness to "put your money where your mouth is" doesn't quite right, though. Perhaps you could think of it as demonstrating a willingness to "put your cock where your mouth is."

An acceptable way to handle the "fear" aspect of it may be to insist on being your own key holder, at first, during some trial period to be defined by you, that would enable you to determine experimentally whether you can handle it and also during which both of you would find out whether your wife is capable of taking on a suitable "teasing and taunting" role.

If you "take it up a level" in this way, it could result in your relationship, including your fantasy cuckolding game, becoming significantly hotter during the trial period — regardless of whether you decide to let your wife be your sole key holder (or not).

 

[oldguyfl]

An interesting one that we used many years ago was a hollow strap on dick. I could fit inside but she was getting a much bigger one.

 

[Cuckykny]

An interesting one that we used many years ago was a hollow strap on dick. I could fit inside but she was getting a much bigger one.

--We have tried the 'slip over' type, but found it to be too big and flimsy. The one I we use now is pretty good. Will consider larger in the future.

Thanks for your comments.

 

[Cuckykny]

Just an update.

Things are still going well...at least in the fantasy roleplay. Wife is still coming to bed in sexy lingerie...with last night being a nice white number with see through breast covering...very hotwife. I now constantly refer to her as my Hotwife...and she loves it.

As thing were progressing, I had always wondered about the feeling of being 'second' after a real cock had stretched my wife open leaving me to basically fuck a wide open hole. I had read stories and posts suggesting this, but I had chalked it up to fantasy and that a womens cunt would recover quickly after sex with a bigger cock. So after the Bull (dildo) had brought my wife to another incredible orgasm and her level of post-orgasm sensitivity had decreased enough for me to enter her...to my surprise it is true, my cuck penis was basically swimming inside her. I am positive she could not even feel me inside her! I wasn't even sure there would be enough tightness to stimulate me to cum. I think it was just the excitement of being second and knowing the Bull had really opened her up that brought me to orgasm.

Enjoying being a fantasy cuck.

 

[Cuckykny]

I am pretty sure this is a good sign (I think).

--Something new...today we started to get a little playful and my wife...Hotwife...actually initiated roleplaying. She was acting as if I was someone she had picked up at a club. We started 'dirty' dancing and as I was grinding into her I began to tell her what a lucky husband she had to let her come to a club without him. She really began to moan with each grind and told me how she would let her husband know what a good time she had had at the 'club'. I told her what a good Hotwife she was and the action was hot.

And

--After sex SHE brought up how 'one-night stands' must be awkward to end. As we lied on the bed together she said, "At the end of one-night stands it must be better to just leave (versus laying together naked). It would be awkward to lay together like this (she said). And what does one do if they orgasm before the other? Do you just leave or stay until the other one orgasms? Because after cumming you lose the desire to have sex". I replied, "I would think you would need to stay until the other person also cum...and who knows you may want to do it again". She replied, "yeah, that would be the nice thing to do".

--The conversation sort of ended there. What do you all think?
--Images: Hotwife/toy and the anklet.

 

[Custer Laststand]

--Something new: today we started to get a little playful and my wife...hotwife-in-waiting...actually initiated roleplaying. She was acting as if I was someone she had picked up at a club. We started 'dirty' dancing .... etc.

Sounds like your hot wife-to-be is getting close. To move her from role-playing to action, you might consider the most recent three posts by Okdeacon, Zipless and me in Alanuk's thread (in the General Cuckoldry section of this forum), where I concluded:

Re. Okdeacon's post: "Awright — I like it. And, I think Okdeacon's suggestion to encourage your wife to visit a single or divorced woman friend... perhaps out of town... who is likely to be acquainted with multiple men, or attend a reunion of her former classmates (if there are such things where you live), are good ones. Class reunions usually take place only once a year, however, so the former may be more promising than the latter."

And, re. Zipless' post: "I also think Zipless' suggestion to take your wife to a swing club, not to participate but just to watch, would be a good way to move beyond fantasy to action. If there are swing clubs in or within reasonable distance of where you live, Zipless' suggestion may be the most direct way to introduce your wife to the real-life benefits of pleasuring herself by fucking other men."

Any or all of these 3 suggestions may be appropriate for your hot wife-in-waiting. As I understand it, it's standard procedure at swing clubs to welcome visitors who just want to watch without participating. Then, if your wife is intrigued (so to speak), you could return later... perhaps repeatedly. And, the swing club atmosphere should allay her concern about ending affairs after one or two sexual encounters, since sex at those clubs is "no strings attached" by definition.

Re. moving from role-play to action, have you ordered a copy of

Hathaway, Alex, 2011, From Housewife to Cuckoldress: How I took sexual control of a marriage in crisis (Fanny Press, Seattle, Washington, 109 pp. [softcover])

for your hotwife-in-training...?

Ms. Hathaway has authored a companion book entitled "The Education of a Cuckold," but I had some problems ordering it so I can't comment on it (yet). The above book is hot, a fast read, and is written from a woman's point of view, which may appeal to your hotwife-in-training.

 

[Cuckykny]

--I like the swingers club idea that Zipless brought up. I have thought about that idea before and have done some research. There is one near me called 'Taboo'. I (we) have never been to a swingers club, but I will think about how to introduce this idea to my Hotwife. Based on her comments about one-night stands (and her reactions to the role play and knowing this is some thing I honestly want), I am sure she thinks about cuckolding me, but has not mentally worked through all of the 'pitfalls'. IE What to do at the end of sex with another guy when all she has done for the past 15+ years is have sex with me. Generally, we lay together naked...like most couples, but I am sure she does not want to share this intimacy with another man.<---Make sense?

Maybe through role play?

I have looked up other swingers clubs and some actually have a 'cuckold/hotwife' night. Unfortunately, the one near me does not. It also limits single males to invitation only, leading me to believe that must couples must be 'swapping' here. I know my wife would not want me to be with another women and, honestly, I do not want to be with another women. I just don't know how the other couple would feel if I 'rejected' his spouse.

Any thoughts?

--My wife did attend her college reunion by herself a couple of years ago...and did hang out with her old friends...most were divorced. I did ask her if any of her old college boyfriends hit on her and she did say 'yes' and 'two of them were very flirtatious and really wanted to hook up'. But she told me that nothing had happened (and I believe her)...although she did call me in a drunken state and I could here multiple guys/gals in the background laughing and being loud. After the college reunion, two of these male friends have since FB friended her (nothing inappropriate). However, this was before I confided my true bedroom fantasies with her. I am sure if she goes again without me I will be getting a different answer!

--I have not purchased the book, but the next time we are in a bookstore I will bring it up.

 

[Cuckykny]

Update.

Things are still going strong. 'Hotwife' has become my pet name for my wife and she loves it. She always wears lingerie to bed...no more sweat pants! She now needs 'Terrance' to finish the deal. I have excepted that I am not enough to make her cum anymore and she knows she needs something bigger to reach orgasm. Very hot. During sex, I always refer to her as my Hotwife and tell her how much I want her to cuck me or how I want to be her cuck. And she always responds very positively with moans.

--I am still looking for a way to introduce visiting a swingers club. We are playing a fantasy football league and we always come up with side bets when we play head-2-head. I am thinking of telling her that "if I win you agree to visit an adult club". I am not sure how she will respond, but if she is some what curious, I will let her know that we can just check it out and maybe use it to get new ideas to spice up the bedroom...and that the cuckold community recommend it for us to enhance the fantasy.

--Thoughts?

 

[Custer Laststand]

.... I am still looking for a way to introduce visiting a swingers club.

The most obvious way to accomplish that would be to propose it directly. For instance, when you're in bed playing your fantasy cuckold game with your hotwife-in-waiting.

When she's all hot -and-bothered and waiting for her fantasy lover to fuck her with his large cock (i.e., for you to penetrate her with her large dildo and bring her to orgasm), tell her in your lowest and sexiest voice, close to her ear, that before "you" (her fantasy lover) penetrate her and bring her to orgasm, there's something "you" are going to demand from her and it is NON-negotiable, baby-darling... if she doesn't agree, "you" are not going to fuck her to orgasm.

When she answers (cautiously, no doubt): "And what might that be, my love...?" tell her it is that she MUST agree to accompany "you" (her fantasy lover) to a swing club, where she will NOT be allowed to participate in the action. Rather, she must ONLY watch the other women being pleasured by their lovers-for-the-evening.

And, the REASON she will be forbidden from participating is: you are going to FORCE her to become as horny as possible... so horny, she will hardly be able to stand it... so horny, she will raise her skirt, lower her panties, and masturbate uncontrollably in the car all the way home afterwards... in anticipation of having her brains fucked out by "you" (her fantasy lover) right in front of her husband (the real you) when she and "you" (her fantasy lover) get home.

We are playing a fantasy football league and we always come up with side bets when we play head-2-head. I am thinking of telling her that "if I win you agree to visit an adult club [with me]."

Why fool around with "bets" and "side bets"? Your budding hotwife will likely be more impressed if you propose a non-participatory visit to a swing club directly, but in a creative way (say, something along the above lines).

 

[Cuckykny]

Good advice Custard. This is why I post my 'bright ideas' to the community. I will go with your idea..or a variant of it.

--My wife had to go out of town this weekend and she made the standard wife playful comment of 'am I going to be sitting around watching porn all weekend?'. I playfully replied that I needed to get some new ideas and will probably see what the cuck community was up to. If she makes a comment like 'what is the cuck community up to' or 'if I learned anything new?' I will bring up the adult club idea. If she does not bring it up (and I am certain she will) I will go with your idea.

--Fingers-crossed.

 

[Custer Laststand]

A very good description of successfully introducing a married-woman friend who was initially reluctant to the pleasures of fucking men other than her (now-cuckold) husband, by introducing her as an “observer” to the swing club scene, was posted recently by Ms. DeeDeenCo. It’s post no. 60, of 3 Nov. 2014, in the thread by AlanUK with “Am I a cuck?” on the subject line, which was initiated by him on 23 May 2012 in the “General Cuckoldry” section of this forum.

If you aren’t already familiar with Ms. DeeDeenCo's post on this subject, I recommend reading it.