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It is perhaps a little known fact over there that all London taxi drivers have to ride round the city on mopeds while they learn all the street names and and routes. It typically takes a couple of years and it known as The Knowledge. The STB club has a similar entry requirement! Have fun..
It is perhaps a little known fact over there that all London taxi drivers have to ride round the city on mopeds while they learn all the street names and and routes. It typically takes a couple of years and it known as The Knowledge. The STB club has a similar entry requirement! Have fun..
Steve, u wrote...
- to me the teasing is always arousing but not really denigrating. The teasing may revolve around what he gets to do/have and I do not - including her at one point asking me if I remember how her pussy feels bare. But, again, after so long together, I am quite sure she understands what would and woudn't arouse me - and she's never gone to the dark-side so-to-speak...
To me, This captures the true essence of what a good cuckold relationship is all about! Two people who love each other, sharing a mutually exciting and erotic experience! Neither has to get hurt in the process, actions that don't cause one to feel less about the other. My hats off to u sir for finding this "holy grail" of pleasure! And thank u for phrasing it so eloquently. U took the thoughts right out of my head, and cotified them in the perfect sound bite!!!
- to me the teasing is always arousing but not really denigrating. The teasing may revolve around what he gets to do/have and I do not - including her at one point asking me if I remember how her pussy feels bare. But, again, after so long together, I am quite sure she understands what would and woudn't arouse me - and she's never gone to the dark-side so-to-speak...
To me, This captures the true essence of what a good cuckold relationship is all about! Two people who love each other, sharing a mutually exciting and erotic experience! Neither has to get hurt in the process, actions that don't cause one to feel less about the other. My hats off to u sir for finding this "holy grail" of pleasure! And thank u for phrasing it so eloquently. U took the thoughts right out of my head, and cotified them in the perfect sound bite!!!
Turns out we traded places. Whatever it was knocked us both out for a few days. I am just feeling better now to where I can actually say I'm even thinking about anything sex related. She was at this point 2 or 3 days ago and went over Paul's tonight for a while and will be home later. And yes, this has turned her thoughts of a "schedule" quite upside down. I told her she could stay over with him but she wanted to come home later to make sure I am on the mend.
Well, our kids will be home either tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest so Sue is seeing Paul after work today and will likely be staying there later tonight but not staying overnight. She was still pleased from my spur of the moment agreement with her to spend the night with him on Friday.
Indeed, when she got home, with me still being a bit out-of-it, she knew I wasn't going to be horny or sexy at all. When she came in on Saturday she got changed and let me see clearly that she'd had a good time with Paul. She put a robe on and sat next to me on the bed and we talked pretty openly. She told me that she and Paul had been talking as they had done many times but this time she told me some of what they talked about. Apparently he told her that she's the most different woman he's ever met in terms of sex and what she likes. He jokes with her all the time that she's ruined him for other women but she seemed to enjoy telling me most about how he likes that she likes to fuck for a long time and that he's never been with a woman who liked to do it for so long. She giggled and told me that "he's never been with a woman who would let him leave it in her for so long". I knew why she was giggling, because it's something she likes a lot when she's spooning with him.
Shes continued to encourage me to relax about things and to be okay with being turned on what whatever turns me on. As i said, it's become a lot easier for me and when we were talking on Saturday morning I asked her if her pussy was still full of Paul's cum and she said matter of factly "yes, especially because we did it again this morning" and she stood up and asked me if I wanted to see and told me that if it turned me on that she'd let me see. She moved around on the bed and undid her robe and spread her legs and then spread her labia apart and asked me if I could see and if she looked wet. I could see her pussy was kind of reddened and that it was glistening and as I looked I told her that "I can see it in you" and she giggled and smiled and said "I know". We talked on and off for a little while and all the while she let me watch her take a tissue and blot herself dry whenever a drip seemed to run out of her and the whole time she told me how good he felt and how she likes having sex with him so much.
Last night when we were going to bed she told me more than asked that she'd be home late today as it was likely they wouldn't be seeing each other for a week. It was one of the first times I'd felt horny in a while and she smiled at seeing my cock get hard. I barely saw her this morning as she was quiet when she got up and even while she dressed. I got up to her finishing her make-up in the bathroom with her fully dressed and already having had breakfast. She giggled and promised me that tonight when she gets home that she'll "share a little with me" - not sure what that means yet but I'm eager to find out
Not much more to share right now.
Indeed, when she got home, with me still being a bit out-of-it, she knew I wasn't going to be horny or sexy at all. When she came in on Saturday she got changed and let me see clearly that she'd had a good time with Paul. She put a robe on and sat next to me on the bed and we talked pretty openly. She told me that she and Paul had been talking as they had done many times but this time she told me some of what they talked about. Apparently he told her that she's the most different woman he's ever met in terms of sex and what she likes. He jokes with her all the time that she's ruined him for other women but she seemed to enjoy telling me most about how he likes that she likes to fuck for a long time and that he's never been with a woman who liked to do it for so long. She giggled and told me that "he's never been with a woman who would let him leave it in her for so long". I knew why she was giggling, because it's something she likes a lot when she's spooning with him.
Shes continued to encourage me to relax about things and to be okay with being turned on what whatever turns me on. As i said, it's become a lot easier for me and when we were talking on Saturday morning I asked her if her pussy was still full of Paul's cum and she said matter of factly "yes, especially because we did it again this morning" and she stood up and asked me if I wanted to see and told me that if it turned me on that she'd let me see. She moved around on the bed and undid her robe and spread her legs and then spread her labia apart and asked me if I could see and if she looked wet. I could see her pussy was kind of reddened and that it was glistening and as I looked I told her that "I can see it in you" and she giggled and smiled and said "I know". We talked on and off for a little while and all the while she let me watch her take a tissue and blot herself dry whenever a drip seemed to run out of her and the whole time she told me how good he felt and how she likes having sex with him so much.
Last night when we were going to bed she told me more than asked that she'd be home late today as it was likely they wouldn't be seeing each other for a week. It was one of the first times I'd felt horny in a while and she smiled at seeing my cock get hard. I barely saw her this morning as she was quiet when she got up and even while she dressed. I got up to her finishing her make-up in the bathroom with her fully dressed and already having had breakfast. She giggled and promised me that tonight when she gets home that she'll "share a little with me" - not sure what that means yet but I'm eager to find out
Not much more to share right now.
Good to see you back Steve. You seem a little reflective more than excited at the moment. Maybe your illness lingers still a little. It's amazing really what effects such a minor infection can create. A butterfly effect of sorts. 10 days ago your life and schedule seemed settled. You could almost paste up your true connections in the diary and use up the baby oil in between. Now you have been denied last week, will be maybe denied this week because of the family and then again maybe next week because Sue will have gone so long again without Paul. Time for some spontaneity with the schedule I'd say. Sue needs to not only make time but actually show that she wants to as well. Nothing in your welcome update suggests that she missed your time too.
Peak, you're correct, between Friday and tonight, her thoughts haven't gone to having sex with me. But I'm quite sure we'll have our time over the long weekend. We do still enjoy having sex together! Matter of fact, she's expressed her enjoyment a bit more recently - although I am thinking it's her response to my own changes in terms of being more open and accepting of everything. I'm actually quite enjoying the changes that she's pushed me towards, it's very nice being able to feel close to her and to share and talk more intimately about her time with Paul. It so turns me on to think of how she was lying next to me on Saturday when I knew he'd likely cum in her only a few hours earlier. It's really quite the eye-opener for me at least to feel like I can share my excitement with her like this. I do still have concerns when I let myself think about it in the long term, but on the other hand, it is amazing to actually be able to say that using condoms with her like this has really hit the sweet-spot for me in terms of what I seem to have almost needed to feel.
I do know she still likes looking at Paul as her alpha-male and that he gets to connect with her in a way that I do not. It is such an incredible feeling to know she feels the same and enjoys how she feels about this. She continues to tell me how this turns her on and extols about how it makes her feel so sexy and aroused knowing that her husband - me - doesn't get to have her the way her boyfriend does.
I've gone back and re-read some of the earlier things that I can now really see as foreshadowing what I would eventually find out about myself. I got so hard re-reading what we did and even more, how I felt when she first had her IUD put in and my god is it ever something that I feel just so right about doing - even if I didn't understand it. And I can say that I jerked-off earlier this afternoon when I read about how we did things when she had the IUD removed. To this day I am still just so horny about what we did without even really knowing why - but now, my god was it such the thrill for me to see that even back then, I had these beta-desires that I guess I just never could or want to accept.
I think I've posted several times now about other things - even before she began cucking me - that I have thought back on and can now see other dimensions of that are so in line with my, at the time hidden, beta desires. Maybe that struggle/conflict in some way accounts for how strongly I felt at being the alpha at times, as if I maybe had to prove something. Just so many things that I wouldn't accept that turned me on in a cuck-way but they so did.
The other guys at work when we first started dating - I long told myself that I was turned on because I was the one who she selected and who I was able to fuck and make her cum so well that she wanted to be with me. But even now I know that I loved that the other guys had fucked her - and back then she went bare with everyone - incluidng me so I knew she'd done the same with the other guys.
I also thought a lot about what turned me on so much by the "fashion show" she gave me on one of our earliest dates. At the time I loved that she was so sexy and loved to show herself off to me in sexy lingerie - but now I so know that what turned me on was that she'd worn all that lingerie with other guys and had surely had sex with them while wearing it all. I was so naive and vanilla at the time to not see it - but now it is so clear to me.
She's said - and I really feel it now - that I just feel calmer. Even in chatrooms and on PM's, it's just so much easier to say "yes, I"m a cuck and I enjoy not cumming in her" now - I don't feel like I feel as self-conscious about it, not since I guess she's convinced me that she wants me to relax about it. Whatever she's doing or coaching me or guiding me towards, it's very calming for me so I'm definitely into it.
That's all for now - not sure what time she's getting home just yet.....
I do know she still likes looking at Paul as her alpha-male and that he gets to connect with her in a way that I do not. It is such an incredible feeling to know she feels the same and enjoys how she feels about this. She continues to tell me how this turns her on and extols about how it makes her feel so sexy and aroused knowing that her husband - me - doesn't get to have her the way her boyfriend does.
I've gone back and re-read some of the earlier things that I can now really see as foreshadowing what I would eventually find out about myself. I got so hard re-reading what we did and even more, how I felt when she first had her IUD put in and my god is it ever something that I feel just so right about doing - even if I didn't understand it. And I can say that I jerked-off earlier this afternoon when I read about how we did things when she had the IUD removed. To this day I am still just so horny about what we did without even really knowing why - but now, my god was it such the thrill for me to see that even back then, I had these beta-desires that I guess I just never could or want to accept.
I think I've posted several times now about other things - even before she began cucking me - that I have thought back on and can now see other dimensions of that are so in line with my, at the time hidden, beta desires. Maybe that struggle/conflict in some way accounts for how strongly I felt at being the alpha at times, as if I maybe had to prove something. Just so many things that I wouldn't accept that turned me on in a cuck-way but they so did.
The other guys at work when we first started dating - I long told myself that I was turned on because I was the one who she selected and who I was able to fuck and make her cum so well that she wanted to be with me. But even now I know that I loved that the other guys had fucked her - and back then she went bare with everyone - incluidng me so I knew she'd done the same with the other guys.
I also thought a lot about what turned me on so much by the "fashion show" she gave me on one of our earliest dates. At the time I loved that she was so sexy and loved to show herself off to me in sexy lingerie - but now I so know that what turned me on was that she'd worn all that lingerie with other guys and had surely had sex with them while wearing it all. I was so naive and vanilla at the time to not see it - but now it is so clear to me.
She's said - and I really feel it now - that I just feel calmer. Even in chatrooms and on PM's, it's just so much easier to say "yes, I"m a cuck and I enjoy not cumming in her" now - I don't feel like I feel as self-conscious about it, not since I guess she's convinced me that she wants me to relax about it. Whatever she's doing or coaching me or guiding me towards, it's very calming for me so I'm definitely into it.
That's all for now - not sure what time she's getting home just yet.....
Steve it is good to read that you and Sue are both recovered and are back on a healthy track. It is also good to read that Sue it back to enjoying her time with Paul and sharing much more openly with you these days. It would seem that Sue has made it clear in her own way that the more comfortable and relaxed you are with everything (the dynamic which as become the norm), the more she will openly share with you. While I understand that others may have more concerns about you experiencing being denied and or restricted intercourse, I believe that you have found that there are so many more way to have intimacy as a couple, an even higher level of intimacy between you both as everything has evolved over this past year. It has been amazing journey that you both have shared together over the years and this last year has indeed shown you a much different side as you have embraced your beta side.
With all that you have shared with this group on the forum, the changing dynamics within your relationship, it would seem to me that you and Sue have reached a very good place within your relationship. Sue has been seeing Paul for more than a year at this point with your encouragement and support. During this same year you have given Sue the gift of exclusivity of sorts with Paul, he has become her primary sexual partner when it comes to bare intercourse with fluid sharing and all that comes with it. It would appear to me that you and Sue have continued to develop a greater connection and level of intimacy that does not require bare intercourse. It would also seem in some ways that you are being weaned intercourse overall with the few exceptions that Sue desires to have on her own terms.
Based on how you have described what Sue has shared with you over time, it would seem that Sue will continue to be involved with Paul for the foreseeable future. Enjoy the beta side, enjoy the journey and the level of intimacy that you have with Sue.
With all that you have shared with this group on the forum, the changing dynamics within your relationship, it would seem to me that you and Sue have reached a very good place within your relationship. Sue has been seeing Paul for more than a year at this point with your encouragement and support. During this same year you have given Sue the gift of exclusivity of sorts with Paul, he has become her primary sexual partner when it comes to bare intercourse with fluid sharing and all that comes with it. It would appear to me that you and Sue have continued to develop a greater connection and level of intimacy that does not require bare intercourse. It would also seem in some ways that you are being weaned intercourse overall with the few exceptions that Sue desires to have on her own terms.
Based on how you have described what Sue has shared with you over time, it would seem that Sue will continue to be involved with Paul for the foreseeable future. Enjoy the beta side, enjoy the journey and the level of intimacy that you have with Sue.
Squirmy,
I am well used to Steve avoiding some questions. It's fine, it's his thread, but you seem to have missed the point. I fully accept your position and if that is what Sue and Steve want to happen then fine. However, just a few weeks ago they both expressed the need for a regular personal reconnection, not involving Paul but still using condoms. The schedule was every two weeks. Given that they both expressed the need, maybe for different reasons, I find it strange that the schedule now slips and neither seem to care. It's a discontinuity. Why?
I am well used to Steve avoiding some questions. It's fine, it's his thread, but you seem to have missed the point. I fully accept your position and if that is what Sue and Steve want to happen then fine. However, just a few weeks ago they both expressed the need for a regular personal reconnection, not involving Paul but still using condoms. The schedule was every two weeks. Given that they both expressed the need, maybe for different reasons, I find it strange that the schedule now slips and neither seem to care. It's a discontinuity. Why?
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Peak - I'm not totally following you in terms of your statement that neither of us cares. I think more accurately, neither of us cares if we are on a fixed schedule or not. But in terms on intimacy, I think, we are pretty secure. She's already let me know that both kids will be going out on Friday and that she wants us to plan a romantic evening for ourselves - yes - definitely culminating in sex together.
I will say that I also wasn't disappointed on Monday evening when she came in. I wasn't expecting much, hoping but not expecting and I was pleasantly surprised when she came in very talkative and energetic and up. Indeed following her up to the bedroom she was very thankful to me for encouraging her to see Paul and that Paul also expressed his thanks. She giggled and said "twice in fact!" which I immediately meant he'd cum in her twice. Even though it was a bit late and we both had work the next day, she did let me undress her on the condition that I knew "nothing was going to happen" unless I was going to masturbate and I told her openly in return that I would like that. She blushed when she realized I meant it, that I would love to undress her and be with her while she helped me along in return.
As I said, maybe it's something she's really pushing for or maybe it's just happening naturally but when we're in sync and can talk really openly - I guess where maybe I don't feel quite so self-conscious - that it's really fun to be with her. She teased me about how Paul loved to suck at her breasts while she was on top of him and she seemed to really enjoy telling me how she orgasmed so easily when she was riding him like that. I was stroking away when she asked "do you want to see my pussy?" and when I nodded she lay back on the bed and spread her legs and let me see everything - and I do mean everything! She asked if she was still wet and when I moaned back "yes" she asked if it was still creamy or whether it had turned runny already. I told her "a little of both" to which she replied something about how sexy she felt letting me see her like that and how erotic it felt for her to know that I was just going to be looking.
Of course, in the end, she wanted me to tell her what nasty thoughts were in my head as I got closer to cumming. As I said, it's becoming so much easier to tell her what turns me on and I loved how it felt when I could tell her that I liked thinking about Paul having her so much and how it turned me on that I hadn't cum in her "in so long now". When I saw her fingers moving on her little button and I recognized that she was rubbing herself along with me, it didnt' take me long to cum myself.
Not much more to tell you - our daughter is already home and our son is due home before dinner. I was out of work at 1pm and Sue is off as of 3pm so we'll all be home this evening and may light a fire in the fire-pit outside if it stays reasonable temperature-wise. Otherwise we are gearing up for tomorrow with her parents coming over for a while.
I will say that I also wasn't disappointed on Monday evening when she came in. I wasn't expecting much, hoping but not expecting and I was pleasantly surprised when she came in very talkative and energetic and up. Indeed following her up to the bedroom she was very thankful to me for encouraging her to see Paul and that Paul also expressed his thanks. She giggled and said "twice in fact!" which I immediately meant he'd cum in her twice. Even though it was a bit late and we both had work the next day, she did let me undress her on the condition that I knew "nothing was going to happen" unless I was going to masturbate and I told her openly in return that I would like that. She blushed when she realized I meant it, that I would love to undress her and be with her while she helped me along in return.
As I said, maybe it's something she's really pushing for or maybe it's just happening naturally but when we're in sync and can talk really openly - I guess where maybe I don't feel quite so self-conscious - that it's really fun to be with her. She teased me about how Paul loved to suck at her breasts while she was on top of him and she seemed to really enjoy telling me how she orgasmed so easily when she was riding him like that. I was stroking away when she asked "do you want to see my pussy?" and when I nodded she lay back on the bed and spread her legs and let me see everything - and I do mean everything! She asked if she was still wet and when I moaned back "yes" she asked if it was still creamy or whether it had turned runny already. I told her "a little of both" to which she replied something about how sexy she felt letting me see her like that and how erotic it felt for her to know that I was just going to be looking.
Of course, in the end, she wanted me to tell her what nasty thoughts were in my head as I got closer to cumming. As I said, it's becoming so much easier to tell her what turns me on and I loved how it felt when I could tell her that I liked thinking about Paul having her so much and how it turned me on that I hadn't cum in her "in so long now". When I saw her fingers moving on her little button and I recognized that she was rubbing herself along with me, it didnt' take me long to cum myself.
Not much more to tell you - our daughter is already home and our son is due home before dinner. I was out of work at 1pm and Sue is off as of 3pm so we'll all be home this evening and may light a fire in the fire-pit outside if it stays reasonable temperature-wise. Otherwise we are gearing up for tomorrow with her parents coming over for a while.
Well, it was a wonderful holiday weekend all around. Great seeing the kids and great that they left Sue and I time alone.
I won't go into much detail about the holidays or the food and company as I suspect everyone has their nice memories, us included.
I think the long weekend encouraged Sue to relax and when we had some alone time, we continued exploring what is going on between us. I will say that she surprised the heck out of me on Thursday night. We had her parents here which went better than expected, we had talked and we both agreed that not knowing if they're both going to be here next year was an incentive enough to host them this year. After dinner I gave her and the kids a lot of time with them when I volunteered to clean up the kitchen. Well, that resulted in a wonderful surprise later that evening when Sue kissed me passionately and told me thank you for helping out as much as I did. She then pushed me back on the bed and before I could say anything, she pulled my pants and underwear down and pulled out my cock. After just a brief mention of how, speaking to my cock, "you should have some fun" she proceeded to look up at me and as I watched her she licked around the head of my cock and just said "enjoy it" and she proceeded to give me a blow-job like I haven't had in ages. She doesn't deep-throat or anything like that but between how wet she got it with her mouth and how she worked her hands - my god it was incredible. I wasn't sure what was going to happen at the end (visions of a ruined orgasm did creep into my head) but sure enough - when she felt me start to throb - if anything she went at it even more and a few minutes later I came and came and came in her mouth with her hands feeling just wonderful until I lay there limp afterwards. She'd swallowed most of it by the time she slid up next to me and kissed me but it was still erotic. When she was done kissing me she looked at me and said "I've never done that for Paul". It made me think and I had to agree, in all the times I've seen them together or heard about what they'd done, she'd never sucked and swallowed him. Of course I know that 99% of the time she'd rather have sex and I recognized but didn't ask her about why she'd just done that for me other than her saying "I wanted to give you something special".
It was surprising for sure and wow did I ever sleep well after that.
Saturday night was when both of our kids went out to visit friends that Sue and I had a bit more alone time. More about that later.
I won't go into much detail about the holidays or the food and company as I suspect everyone has their nice memories, us included.
I think the long weekend encouraged Sue to relax and when we had some alone time, we continued exploring what is going on between us. I will say that she surprised the heck out of me on Thursday night. We had her parents here which went better than expected, we had talked and we both agreed that not knowing if they're both going to be here next year was an incentive enough to host them this year. After dinner I gave her and the kids a lot of time with them when I volunteered to clean up the kitchen. Well, that resulted in a wonderful surprise later that evening when Sue kissed me passionately and told me thank you for helping out as much as I did. She then pushed me back on the bed and before I could say anything, she pulled my pants and underwear down and pulled out my cock. After just a brief mention of how, speaking to my cock, "you should have some fun" she proceeded to look up at me and as I watched her she licked around the head of my cock and just said "enjoy it" and she proceeded to give me a blow-job like I haven't had in ages. She doesn't deep-throat or anything like that but between how wet she got it with her mouth and how she worked her hands - my god it was incredible. I wasn't sure what was going to happen at the end (visions of a ruined orgasm did creep into my head) but sure enough - when she felt me start to throb - if anything she went at it even more and a few minutes later I came and came and came in her mouth with her hands feeling just wonderful until I lay there limp afterwards. She'd swallowed most of it by the time she slid up next to me and kissed me but it was still erotic. When she was done kissing me she looked at me and said "I've never done that for Paul". It made me think and I had to agree, in all the times I've seen them together or heard about what they'd done, she'd never sucked and swallowed him. Of course I know that 99% of the time she'd rather have sex and I recognized but didn't ask her about why she'd just done that for me other than her saying "I wanted to give you something special".
It was surprising for sure and wow did I ever sleep well after that.
Saturday night was when both of our kids went out to visit friends that Sue and I had a bit more alone time. More about that later.
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