My name says it all.

[am_I_a_cuck?]

Mac, I thought you were posting knowing my post was sincere? I assure you it is, I hope your help was sincere? I ignored the guy above, I knew I'd get stuff like that on here.

Msbeth, I understand what you say and I am trying to figure out whats best for me, our marriage and wife. Its hard to just accept it, knowing it was hidden for so many years.

I suppose my wife was a cheating wife for many years, and now thats its in the open, and its up to me to accept or not, it is transforming into a cuckold marriage?

Can anyone answer if I was a cuck back when I at first thought it was the original 5 men over 10 years ago but just found out?

 

[msbeth]

Hi It's Beth

You just have to understand that you need to separate love from sex. A lot of women have a much higher sexual need than their husbands. That doesn't make them bad people. I know so many women who desire that their husband give them their sexual freedom because they are trapped in a situation in which to fulfill their basic human need they have to go outside of their marriage. That has nothing to do with love and everything to do with sex. Your wife has been crying out to you for 10 years it's time that you listen, please do. She love you very much and would never leave you but on the other hand she would never be able to give up her other activities. So give it a chance. If not you in her will both be unhappy. Beth

 

[AngleBaby]

No, you weren't a cuck because you had no chance to accept it.
Remember, she lied to you, betrayed you, so why should she expect anything from you?

Her ultimatum is a choice she is making. She would rather have her BF than you, but wants both if possible. She would rather have his cock over your love.

That is her choice, her own doing if you two get a divorce. Your family hopefully will ralley behind you and give you support in a divorce.

Think of it like this. If you two were getting married now, your one condition being faithfulness and honesty, she would have said no at the alter.

I have been on the receiving end of ultimatums before. When my dad was dying, my fiancé issued an ultimatum: start a family with her and the two kids we already have together, or go see my dying dad. She would not give me both. I went to see my dad.

Ultimatums are not symbols of love, but signs that you are being taken for granted by an uncaring person.

Correction. She might have lied and said yes at the alter.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Am_I_a_cuck,

Regarding:

If you just give [your wife] the sexual freedom she is asking for, your marriage will be so much better.

And:

You just have to understand that you need to separate love from sex. A lot of women have a much higher sexual need than their husbands. That doesn't make them bad people. I know so many women who desire that their husband give them their sexual freedom because they are trapped in a situation in which to fulfill their basic human need they have to go outside of their marriage. That has nothing to do with love and everything to do with sex. Your wife has been crying out to you for 10 years; it's time that you listen, please do. She loves you very much and would never leave you, but on the other hand, she would never be able to give up her other activities. So, give it a chance. If not, she and you will both be unhappy. Beth

Ms. Beth has given you some good advice.

—Custer

 

[am_I_a_cuck?]

Custer, I did read Ms.Beths post but for some reason you reposting them, next to each other has them making more sense. I keep re-reading them and it makes more sense each time I read them.

As I just told someone in a PM when we were on the subject of sex. My wife will honestly say she loves our sex. I make her cum everytime she wants to. Her lovers rarely do, she has told me.

We do have sex often, especially considering we have been married for 30 years in a few months. We did it twice yesterday, including around 3 am. Then again this morning when we woke up, and then about 1 hr ago. We made love for over 30 minutes and then I gave her oral and she came at least twice and I could taste her each time. Im not saying making love for 30 minutes is a record, but it made her happy.

 

[am_I_a_cuck?]

AngleBaby, you never told me what OP means here? On the infidelity forum it means "other person", ie: the person your spouse is cheating with.

 

[Custer Laststand]

AngleBaby, you never told me what OP means here? On the infidelity forum it means "other person", ie: the person your spouse is cheating with.

On this forum, "OP" => "original poster" (i.e., the person who started a thread).

 

[AngleBaby]

I wouldn't take her on her word for much.

Sexual freedom or sexual faithfulness can be put to the side at the moment. What matters is the lying she has done for ten (or more) years and the ultimatum she issued him.
Like I said, the ultimatum means she does not want to communicate openly about her relationship with her BF; your objections would be dismissed as meaningless.
The ultimatum also means she already picked what she wants more -- other mens' cock.

 

[Jorge88]

From Alicia and Jorge

Dear Am I a Cuck:

First let us tell you that starting this thread and being sincere about your feelings has been the best decision you have made in your life.

After saying that we will go right to the point and answer your questions:

1) Divorce.
¿Are you crazy?
You have been married to a beautiful woman.
Now you have discovered that she is even better than you had ever thought.
You love her.
She loves you.
There is absolutely no reason to divorce.

We will go even further.
A woman like that is not found that easily. She is very much like my Alicia.
A treasure. To keep and not let go.
Please do not even think about divorce.

2) Crying.
You should be laughing.
But laughing of joy.
Because my friend you are entering into the most beautiful phase of a persons life.
We know and understand that at this point this may sound ridiculous to you.
But we promise you that If you stick with us for a while you will finally agree.
Cuckolding is the most beautiful thing in the world.

But let me (Jorge) explain from a man's point of view.
When we started this (Alicia and I) 30 years ago.
Just the thought of Alicia being with another man made me feel this:
A sinking feeling. Extreme sadness. Despair.
Anxiety. A knot in my stomach.
Restlessness.
Inability to work or to think properly.
Crazy and uncontrolable thoughts of what she would do with him in bed.
That only gave me more anxiety.

To make a long story short:
After 30 years I (Jorge) can only tell you that Cuckolding is the most beautiful thing in life.
It has made life worth living for me.
There is absolutely nothing in the world that compares with it.

Of course you will not understand it at this point.
But that is the reason that you are here.

Please let us all help you in this.
In our case we can help you personally with our 30 years of experience.
And there are some here that know even more than we do.

So please do not despair.
This is the beggining of something beautiful in your life.

Trust us:

Alicia and Jorge

 

[am_I_a_cuck?]

We do have some counseling scheduled in the next few days, its mostly for me my wife says. I am very slooooowly coming to accept it, but I still have not and it will take a while.

I really do not have a choice, other than divorce and I can't do that.

My mind isn't where you said yet Jorge, in time I will be a full cuck, a willing one I suppose? Not now though.

 

[creamy]

If you both agree to her having guys then that`s pretty horny. Perhaps you would like to watch her fucking one? Clean her after? Have a threesome?
If the answer is no, then your wife is a lying, two, nay, five timing bitch! Your not a cuckold, both of you have to agree that lifestyle. She hasn`t cuckold you, that`s bollocks. She`s shit on you. Taken the piss out of you and made you look like a mug. Fuck her off now before the scheming bitch does your head in any more. Walk tall, have confidence and get shot of her. You`ll find another. Be happy!

 

[AngleBaby]

I agree with creamy. Your story isn't of a husband being turned on by your wife's actions, but one of emotional abuse. That ultimatum she issued says it all. Her statement on coming to counseling says she doesn't want to communicate with you. Her refusal to communicate with you says she doesn't care if she is hurting you or not.

But I understand why you have a difficult time leaving her. It is your history that you two had together. What you two shared exclusively.

Those times are over aIac. Stand up for yourself and make her choose who she would rather be with. If over time she comes to realize she made a mistake, good for her, but you shouldn't be dismissed like that.

 

[Jorge88]

Well here is your first lesson

You say that you are slowly getting to accept it.

Here is a way to better accept it.

Look for a place where you can relax, and think about this.

1) Try to imagine that your wife tells you that she will go out with a man tonight.
¿What do you feel?
Please describe what exactly (This is important).

2) Then try to concentrate on just the pleasant feelings:

a) Think about how pretty she really is.
b) Think about what she will wear. Think about helping her dress or maybe even telling her how beautiful and sexy she looks.
c) If you feel sexually excited or get an erection concentrate on this and try to enjoy this feeling.
d) Then try to imagine what he will feel.
This is not so hard because you know what it feels to be near her.
Her very special smell. Her very soft skin.
Her unique and perfect body heat.
The taste of her lips.

Just do this exercise up to that point and please tell us what you feel.
But please be completely sincere and express and tell exactly what you feel.

Just think that everything you feel is normal and natural.
Even the negative feelings are normal, and are part of the excitement and discovery.

Waiting for your answer.

Best Regards:

Alicia and Jorge

 

[Jorge88]

Why?

Dear Creamy and AngleBaby:

We are curious.
Why exactly are you telling Am I a Cuck that he should leave her.
Is there something wrong in a woman having sex outside her marriage?

also

Why should a marriage end just because of infidelity on a woman's part?

Didn't you know that this is completely normal?

Marriage cannot work unless a woman Cuckolds her husband.

Why do you think there is such a high rate of divorce and unhappy marriages.
Well, precisely because they do not Cuckold.

If he allows her to Cuckold him freely they will be very happy.

Of course we respect your opinion and we would be curious to know if you do not think that a Cuckolding wife is a treasure.
And if you think that way, why do you?

We promise to respect your opinion.

Best Regards:

Alicia and Jorge

 

[Jorge88]

It is not her fault

Dear Creamy and AngleBaby:

One last thought.
You make a very good point in that she has lied and that she should have asked him before Cuckolding him.

Unfortunately a woman's mind does not work this way.
In our present day society a woman will very rarely suggest a Cuckolding agreement to her husband.
Because social values are too ingrained in a woman since she is a little girl.

So in practice it should always be the man that suggests it.
In this case he never did. So she had no other option but to Cuckold him behind his back. This does not mean she is a bad or scheming person.
It just means she is a normal woman.
This behavior is completely normal in a woman.
She is a very good woman, because she loves him and wants to continue her marriage.
Her ultimatum is not realy about not loving him.
What she really means is this:
"If I cannot Cuckold I will be an unhappy woman for the rest of my life"
Become a shrew.
"So instead of that I would prefer that we separate"

We think that she definitely loves him.
She is a good woman.
They should not separate or divorce.
They should both just enjoy this beautiful thing that is cuckolding.

Best Regards:

Alicia and Jorge

 

[Jorge88]

Where?

Dear Creamy:

About your comment:

"Walk tall, have confidence and get shot of her. You`ll find another. Be happy! "

Where will he find another woman like that?

They are not so easy to find.

She is a treasure.

Just like my Alicia is.

Please don't let her go Am I a Cuck.
You will be sorry for the rest of your life if you let her go.

Best regards.

Alicia and Jorge

 

[AngleBaby]

Cuckolding is not required for a loving relationship to work. Cuckolding may be required for your own relationship to work, but you both agreed to it. aIac never was asked though and fantasies can be kept fantasies and a joyful marriage can still be attained and often is.

But in this case, she lied and kept lying and there should be consequences for the lies and hurting aIac so deeply. She was willing to hurt him, did hurt him and is willing to hurt him again by issuing an ultimatum.
I have gone through ultimatums before. They always leave someone hurt and I will never forgive my fiancé for the ultimatum she issued against me. She made me choose between her and seeing family who was dying before it was too late.
I guess you two are lucky to never experience an ultimatum and I hope you never do. I was crying and deeply depressed boarding that plane.
His wife knows this is something that hurts him, but said to him to pick his poison; either leave him, which will hurt, or stay with her, which will hurt. Is it to love someone to hurt someone so willingly?

Marriage is not easy and there are some things one must live without and other things one must accept. It takes effort, but it is effort that is well deserved for the love that is implied in a healthy marriage.

I am happy for the two of you though. But I hope you can understand, not everyone is as lucky as the two of you; some people refuse to put any effort into their relationships.

 

[Jorge88]

About Ultimatums

Dear AngleBaby:

Thank you for your sincere reply.
You are right in everything except for one thing:

A marriage will not work unless there is Cuckolding in that marriage.

We understand that this goes completely against anything that you have ever heard.
We also understand that this goes against everything in society.

But there is a Physiological reason.
There is a specific human behavior that is hardwired in our brains, that has to do with this specific behavior.
It has been demonstrated recently using PET technology (Positron Emission Tomography).

It is of course very hard and long to explain.
But there is a reason for so many divorces and failed realtionships and it has to do with this.

If you are interested or curious to know why Cuckolding is necesary please write.

In any case we would like to know more about you and why you think that a marriage will work without Cuckolding.
Your story is very important to us.

Best Regards:
Alicia and Jorge

 

[AngleBaby]

If you have a link to any scientific research, please share it. If it says cuckolding is an important part to any marriage, then I will concede until I have observed something that I can document and share.

I think a marriage can work without cuckolding because so many must have worked without cuckolding. I wont pull punches about how I am sure because it is so deep in my soul. I will stick to what can be observed. There are many marriages that have worked under the public eye, such as presidents, with out cuckolding. Seeing how many have worked without cuckolding leads me to the conclusion that it is not needed for a successful marriage.

The claim there are so many unsuccessful marriages, btw, can also be attributed to lying, cheating and open cuckolding in equal parts along with the unmet fantasies some have.

 

[Jorge88]

About References

Dear Angle Baby:

Thank you for your reply.
We would prefer not to include scientific references in this particular thread because this thread is all about helping Am I a Cuck.
And we do not what to turn it into a scientific discussion.
But please write to us and we will send the references.

Also we will explain in this thread why Cuckolding is necessary.
But we will do it in parts because it is not that simple.
And we do not want to make it too long and boring.
In other words it is a very complicated process and will be explaining it according to how Am I a Cuck little by little travels that path.

Please write:

Best Regards:
Alicia and Jorge