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Denial 2015
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Steve,
Can I just start by saying thanks for a great series of posts about your skiing weekend. If your comments and quotes are reasonably accurate, then I suspect your weekend will take a while to truly process properly. All three of you behaved in ways which were subtly different and which together may create some problems for you in the future.
First of all, Sue took the lead role with you in a far firmer way than before, albeit softening the edges sometimes when she thought she might have gone too far or too fast. Her vision of what she wants from you is hardening and she is quite open about what pleasure she wants from you. I think this over time is going to become very hard to take. Previously, your reconnections have allowed you to show her that you can give her just as much pleasure as before. Now, you won't be able to unless she asks. It seems that she is going to need to, or want to ask often. Remember, this is early days, the whole thing is still exciting for you. That will wear off sooner than you think.
Secondly, Paul is starting to see more of what Sue wants and what she wants from you. I would be amazed if she hasn't shared with him what she has said to you. He is totally focused on giving her what she wants, even if he thinks it is in conflict with what you want. He is still asking if you are ok, but this will decrease. He is also, it seems, starting to get off a little showing you just how well he can both make love to and fuck Sue. The two things are different and the former is more dangerous than the power fucks and super orgasms they create. Whatever Sue may say or think, Paul must be starting to have some special feelings for Sue. Maybe not love yet, but that may come and all men can get sneaky when that happens. Watch out for it, Sue may not see the signs as well as you do sometimes, but I suspect he will become guarded in what he starts to say with you around when it happens.
Lastly, you seem to be struggling in your beta role of focusing on your wife, being loving if not sexual with her, and not interfering with her time with Paul. You continue to deny yourself release, which makes any remaining times you get with Sue become desperate fucks allowing your release. Sue knows she isn't going to get anything out of that, and lovingly says it's ok maybe because she thinks you might have some guilt because of it. On your narrative, she is struggling to see the loving. You getting excited by him fucking her, you egging him on like some frat buddy (if in doubt say nothing), you desperate for release with her. It's not a good picture. Maybe you should have released it all first on the couch on Saturday and used your time to make slow love, not intended to satisfy primarily instead. That would have been a better reconnection for her. Not competing with him but giving her something that he cannot provide or she doesn't yet want to take from him. Pure love, undisturbed by passion. The pace would be dictated by Sue. If she wanted it to lead to something more, it would be up to her. If it was so slow you didn't get off, you finish it by hand again. It would all show her your loving, beta role.
I suspect I have overstated my case a bit because you have not given us all of the loving narrative you share in reality. Maybe you can tell us where you think the balance really is.
Can I just start by saying thanks for a great series of posts about your skiing weekend. If your comments and quotes are reasonably accurate, then I suspect your weekend will take a while to truly process properly. All three of you behaved in ways which were subtly different and which together may create some problems for you in the future.
First of all, Sue took the lead role with you in a far firmer way than before, albeit softening the edges sometimes when she thought she might have gone too far or too fast. Her vision of what she wants from you is hardening and she is quite open about what pleasure she wants from you. I think this over time is going to become very hard to take. Previously, your reconnections have allowed you to show her that you can give her just as much pleasure as before. Now, you won't be able to unless she asks. It seems that she is going to need to, or want to ask often. Remember, this is early days, the whole thing is still exciting for you. That will wear off sooner than you think.
Secondly, Paul is starting to see more of what Sue wants and what she wants from you. I would be amazed if she hasn't shared with him what she has said to you. He is totally focused on giving her what she wants, even if he thinks it is in conflict with what you want. He is still asking if you are ok, but this will decrease. He is also, it seems, starting to get off a little showing you just how well he can both make love to and fuck Sue. The two things are different and the former is more dangerous than the power fucks and super orgasms they create. Whatever Sue may say or think, Paul must be starting to have some special feelings for Sue. Maybe not love yet, but that may come and all men can get sneaky when that happens. Watch out for it, Sue may not see the signs as well as you do sometimes, but I suspect he will become guarded in what he starts to say with you around when it happens.
Lastly, you seem to be struggling in your beta role of focusing on your wife, being loving if not sexual with her, and not interfering with her time with Paul. You continue to deny yourself release, which makes any remaining times you get with Sue become desperate fucks allowing your release. Sue knows she isn't going to get anything out of that, and lovingly says it's ok maybe because she thinks you might have some guilt because of it. On your narrative, she is struggling to see the loving. You getting excited by him fucking her, you egging him on like some frat buddy (if in doubt say nothing), you desperate for release with her. It's not a good picture. Maybe you should have released it all first on the couch on Saturday and used your time to make slow love, not intended to satisfy primarily instead. That would have been a better reconnection for her. Not competing with him but giving her something that he cannot provide or she doesn't yet want to take from him. Pure love, undisturbed by passion. The pace would be dictated by Sue. If she wanted it to lead to something more, it would be up to her. If it was so slow you didn't get off, you finish it by hand again. It would all show her your loving, beta role.
I suspect I have overstated my case a bit because you have not given us all of the loving narrative you share in reality. Maybe you can tell us where you think the balance really is.
Peak as always you to share such an objective view point. I must say that I would agree with most of your assessment. The respective relationships between Steve & Sue, Sue & Paul, Paul & Steve have continued to evolve over time and Steve should take note of how those changes go as you have said as it is likely he will see things that Sue may miss. As you have said if the narrative is correct, Sue has made her feelings known and for this to truly work Steve does need to accept his beta role fully as Sue is giving him what he has requested. Maybe her vision was not specifically the same as Steve's although they do seem to be working together through the differences in there respective visions to find what works best for both for them as a couple.
I truly do believe that your correct, if Steve truly would like to be the beta within the relationship moving forward Steve will need to truly focus on Sue in an intimate loving manner as opposed to sexually. There are many ways in which Steve can maintain a strong deep loving intimate non-sexual connection with Sue as she continues to develop her sexual connection with the alpha man in her life. Based on what Steve has shared with the forum, Sue enjoys the loving contact with him without the pressure or guilt of needing to be sexual with her beta man. As they continue to evolve, Steve will learn ways to maintain a level of excitement, contentment, and happiness for not only himself, he will have this for Sue as well.
There is something to be said for Steve denying his own release for periods of time, I know in my personal case I go up to 4 weeks at a time without a release and my wife will agree that it does help with my own focus on her, our intimacy, our connection and similar to what Steve has described I only have penetrative intercourse with my wife when she invites it. Were my wife and I differ from Steve and Sue is that I am allowed to give her oral which tends to result in orgasms for her which has become our primary form of sexual contact as we have evolved as a couple and have developed a very strong connection and deeper level of intimacy. My wife has always stated that she prefers to be a one cock at a time woman. For her to fully enjoy a lover, she prefers the arrangement type that Sue has with Paul, only bare intercourse with the lover (Friend with Benefits) and only the alpha man is allowed the privilege of cumming within her body. With that said, all other contact is intimate touching, kissing and cuddles just as Steve has began to experience with Sue based on her preferences. So I can truly understand Sue not wanting to orgasm from her time with Steve and can understand why she has reduced & restricted the amount and type of intercourse in which they share.
Based on what was published, I do think for Sue to enjoy her intimate and sexual time with Steve that his mind set will need to adapt to fully embrace a much more beta disposition. As you said, Sue needs to experience, feel and see the intimate loving side from Steve, something deeper then the pure sexual excitement that he has shared with her so far. Once Steve bonds with Sue in this manner in turn accepting her stated preference and desires they will both likely find extreme happiness from the evolution within there relationship.
This will be a long journey for Steve, Sue and Paul if he is truly Mr. Right for them as a couple.
I truly do believe that your correct, if Steve truly would like to be the beta within the relationship moving forward Steve will need to truly focus on Sue in an intimate loving manner as opposed to sexually. There are many ways in which Steve can maintain a strong deep loving intimate non-sexual connection with Sue as she continues to develop her sexual connection with the alpha man in her life. Based on what Steve has shared with the forum, Sue enjoys the loving contact with him without the pressure or guilt of needing to be sexual with her beta man. As they continue to evolve, Steve will learn ways to maintain a level of excitement, contentment, and happiness for not only himself, he will have this for Sue as well.
There is something to be said for Steve denying his own release for periods of time, I know in my personal case I go up to 4 weeks at a time without a release and my wife will agree that it does help with my own focus on her, our intimacy, our connection and similar to what Steve has described I only have penetrative intercourse with my wife when she invites it. Were my wife and I differ from Steve and Sue is that I am allowed to give her oral which tends to result in orgasms for her which has become our primary form of sexual contact as we have evolved as a couple and have developed a very strong connection and deeper level of intimacy. My wife has always stated that she prefers to be a one cock at a time woman. For her to fully enjoy a lover, she prefers the arrangement type that Sue has with Paul, only bare intercourse with the lover (Friend with Benefits) and only the alpha man is allowed the privilege of cumming within her body. With that said, all other contact is intimate touching, kissing and cuddles just as Steve has began to experience with Sue based on her preferences. So I can truly understand Sue not wanting to orgasm from her time with Steve and can understand why she has reduced & restricted the amount and type of intercourse in which they share.
Based on what was published, I do think for Sue to enjoy her intimate and sexual time with Steve that his mind set will need to adapt to fully embrace a much more beta disposition. As you said, Sue needs to experience, feel and see the intimate loving side from Steve, something deeper then the pure sexual excitement that he has shared with her so far. Once Steve bonds with Sue in this manner in turn accepting her stated preference and desires they will both likely find extreme happiness from the evolution within there relationship.
This will be a long journey for Steve, Sue and Paul if he is truly Mr. Right for them as a couple.
Peak and Squirm - you've both written a lot and a lot of what you said aligns with what Sue and I talked about and obviously, continue to talk about.
We talked a bit on the ride home as well as last night more and when she asked I was honest and told her that I totally turned me on that she and Paul had been as into each other as they had been and I admitted that it turned me on that he fucked her while we were away skiing. When we talked last night she asked me how I would have been if we hadn't had sex after Paul had left. I was honest and told her that I was surprised that she had wanted me.
She held me and told me she felt like things were happening that she wasn't necessarily ready for or that she even admits that she hadn't thought she'd want so soon. She said she wanted to be sure that I would have been okay because - she admitted to me that she would have rather not had sex with me but at the same time, she also wanted to feel the closeness with me and she said that she wanted to give me that pleasure - but she says she feels conflicted because despite wanting to do that for me, she also wanted to enjoy the post-sex time without me.
As I said, I have been trying to break myself down in a way and accept my beta desires and I told her that she shouldn't feel she needs to do something for me unless she wants it for herself. She looked at me and said that was what she felt conflicted about and said that she was concerned about losing touch with me but at the same time, she recognizes that it turns me on and that it IS what she wants. I held her and told her that I wasn't sure about everything either - but that I couldn't deny that I loved that she'd fucked him as she did. She was quiet until I told her that we could do it again if she wanted and that I was okay with it and I admitted that next time I was surely going to 'relieve myself' rather than waiting. That made her burst out in a huge smile and she hugged me and kissed me and said that she would love to see and know that and she actually admitted that it might make her feel more comfortable. I told her that I'd never thought about it that way - but now see that it's very much what Peak and Squirm are saying - just from her direction. It never dawned on me until she explained it that she would like to know that what she and he were doing had turned me on enough that I'd masturbated from the desire and the excitement.
It all seemed to fit together. I admit I still am hesitant and reluctant to let go and truly be the beta, but I am quite sure that it is going to happen and likely sooner than I'd thought. But the crazy part, I want it. It just turns me on so much that she did it - I can't explain it but its like I said, it's a time that we used to share such intensity and to see her have it with him, I don't know why but it feels like such a repeat of so much that continues to turn me on till this day.
We talked a bit on the ride home as well as last night more and when she asked I was honest and told her that I totally turned me on that she and Paul had been as into each other as they had been and I admitted that it turned me on that he fucked her while we were away skiing. When we talked last night she asked me how I would have been if we hadn't had sex after Paul had left. I was honest and told her that I was surprised that she had wanted me.
She held me and told me she felt like things were happening that she wasn't necessarily ready for or that she even admits that she hadn't thought she'd want so soon. She said she wanted to be sure that I would have been okay because - she admitted to me that she would have rather not had sex with me but at the same time, she also wanted to feel the closeness with me and she said that she wanted to give me that pleasure - but she says she feels conflicted because despite wanting to do that for me, she also wanted to enjoy the post-sex time without me.
As I said, I have been trying to break myself down in a way and accept my beta desires and I told her that she shouldn't feel she needs to do something for me unless she wants it for herself. She looked at me and said that was what she felt conflicted about and said that she was concerned about losing touch with me but at the same time, she recognizes that it turns me on and that it IS what she wants. I held her and told her that I wasn't sure about everything either - but that I couldn't deny that I loved that she'd fucked him as she did. She was quiet until I told her that we could do it again if she wanted and that I was okay with it and I admitted that next time I was surely going to 'relieve myself' rather than waiting. That made her burst out in a huge smile and she hugged me and kissed me and said that she would love to see and know that and she actually admitted that it might make her feel more comfortable. I told her that I'd never thought about it that way - but now see that it's very much what Peak and Squirm are saying - just from her direction. It never dawned on me until she explained it that she would like to know that what she and he were doing had turned me on enough that I'd masturbated from the desire and the excitement.
It all seemed to fit together. I admit I still am hesitant and reluctant to let go and truly be the beta, but I am quite sure that it is going to happen and likely sooner than I'd thought. But the crazy part, I want it. It just turns me on so much that she did it - I can't explain it but its like I said, it's a time that we used to share such intensity and to see her have it with him, I don't know why but it feels like such a repeat of so much that continues to turn me on till this day.
SUPER! Angst and excitement, how can it get better than that for you?! Its getting closer and closer, and it appears you now know it too, that Sue was really just waiting for you to recognize that she wants to focus on one cock and its not yours. Give her that gift, maybe on Valentines Day! She obviously loves you to give you the mercy fuck but I bet she would be sooooo happy if you forgo penetration and jerk off for them! Why deny yourself that pleasure? Everyone involved, especially Sue and Paul, will have peace of mind that you too are enjoying it and encouraging it. Those flesh-lights feel pretty awesome and being involved by touch you will bond beyond belief! You know she wants it!
Yes, but you're not going to do that are you Steve. A few days of reflection and another talk from Sue last night may have helped your focus a little. Maybe you need a few more days to let your emotions settle. It's interesting that in all the years of following your development I have never read about you putting the brakes on. Not saying you have to now but I do think you need to know where the brakes are and how to use them without going into a tailspin. Early application and control is the answer. If needed. Thing is, Sue currently has the accelerator and Paul only wants to go faster. If he can hang on. So, do you see any limits at the moment you don't want to go over just yet?
Peak - for as much talk of acceleration as there is, last night Sue revealed that she's not quite ready for everything to happen quite so quickly just yet.
When we talked last night she made it clear that she isn't ready herself. She told me openly that when she's with Paul, she feels the increased desire to separate from me sexually. But at the same time, she also said that she isn't yet ready to end all physical contact between us.
I asked her a lot of what I'd posted here that I'd thought about and she was surprised that I had thought about it and that my ideas were a lot of what she was feeling. She said again how for the longest time she felt she had to be sexy and responsive whenever I was horny. She asked me how I felt about it now that she is able to not feel that way so much. I told her that I agreed it was giving us a lot more time together when we can feel close but not necessarily sexually.
We talked about my beta desires and she wanted to feel more assured by what I wanted and we talked again about how she would LIKE to find that I'd been so turned on that I'd jerked off - and that she wouldn't then feel the conflict at knowing I was still horny even when she wasn't or didn't want to be with me.
But it was me who owned up to feeling thrilled that Paul had fucked her like he did when we were away skiing. She told me quite openly that it was one of the most intense times she'd ever had with him and that she'd never quite cum with anyone, even me, like that before. I told her that it was the combination of her horniness after skiing and the entire scene that made her that way. She thanked me for letting her have that experience and then asked if we can do it again. I told her that I thought we could work it out and she asked if he could maybe stay with us. I told her okay and she kissed me and promised me that she would make sure it was good for me "even if you don't get to have me" and we talked about that. She said that she had loved feeling me cum and knew that I needed it, but she also said that next time, especially if he spends the night, that I will not have a turn with her. And that is about when we rehashed what she'd said to me before - that she would love to know and see that I'd been so aroused by what they were doing that I'd jerked off and that I didn't need to feel her and cum in her. She told me that, confirming my own thoughts, that she would be very pleased to know that I'd jerked off and that she would have been relieved to know that and that she would have just enjoyed how she felt as we went to bed together. "It's going to be that way sooner or later anyway baby....".
Probably the biggest thing though was talking about what she wants for the future. I was so hard and oozing pre-cum already that when she hugged me and told me that she wanted to begin spending 1 night a week with Paul - and that she wanted it to grow to 2 nights - that I really started to get horny and knew I wouldn't last much longer. She knew just what to say to me - how she teased me about leaving some of her stuff at his place, panties and other clothes and hygiene stuff. I was so hard already as she told me how I shouldn't just think of them going to sleep together but of her being with him in the morning. She knew that thought really pushed my buttons.... And when she talked about how comfortable she will be showering and getting ready with him "you know, getting dressed and putting my make up on". And I guess I must have grunted because she giggled and said "he likes that I don't mind peeing while he's in the bathroom with me" and holy crap did that push me almost to the edge.
But it was when she told me that I've only filled 6 condoms with her and that Paul has fucked her at least 12 times already this year that I started to feel myself ready to cum and when she cooed at how she thinks "only feeling his stuff in me is really making me horny for him" that was when I spurted all over the place!!!!
Wish today hadn't been so hectic and crazy.
When we talked last night she made it clear that she isn't ready herself. She told me openly that when she's with Paul, she feels the increased desire to separate from me sexually. But at the same time, she also said that she isn't yet ready to end all physical contact between us.
I asked her a lot of what I'd posted here that I'd thought about and she was surprised that I had thought about it and that my ideas were a lot of what she was feeling. She said again how for the longest time she felt she had to be sexy and responsive whenever I was horny. She asked me how I felt about it now that she is able to not feel that way so much. I told her that I agreed it was giving us a lot more time together when we can feel close but not necessarily sexually.
We talked about my beta desires and she wanted to feel more assured by what I wanted and we talked again about how she would LIKE to find that I'd been so turned on that I'd jerked off - and that she wouldn't then feel the conflict at knowing I was still horny even when she wasn't or didn't want to be with me.
But it was me who owned up to feeling thrilled that Paul had fucked her like he did when we were away skiing. She told me quite openly that it was one of the most intense times she'd ever had with him and that she'd never quite cum with anyone, even me, like that before. I told her that it was the combination of her horniness after skiing and the entire scene that made her that way. She thanked me for letting her have that experience and then asked if we can do it again. I told her that I thought we could work it out and she asked if he could maybe stay with us. I told her okay and she kissed me and promised me that she would make sure it was good for me "even if you don't get to have me" and we talked about that. She said that she had loved feeling me cum and knew that I needed it, but she also said that next time, especially if he spends the night, that I will not have a turn with her. And that is about when we rehashed what she'd said to me before - that she would love to know and see that I'd been so aroused by what they were doing that I'd jerked off and that I didn't need to feel her and cum in her. She told me that, confirming my own thoughts, that she would be very pleased to know that I'd jerked off and that she would have been relieved to know that and that she would have just enjoyed how she felt as we went to bed together. "It's going to be that way sooner or later anyway baby....".
Probably the biggest thing though was talking about what she wants for the future. I was so hard and oozing pre-cum already that when she hugged me and told me that she wanted to begin spending 1 night a week with Paul - and that she wanted it to grow to 2 nights - that I really started to get horny and knew I wouldn't last much longer. She knew just what to say to me - how she teased me about leaving some of her stuff at his place, panties and other clothes and hygiene stuff. I was so hard already as she told me how I shouldn't just think of them going to sleep together but of her being with him in the morning. She knew that thought really pushed my buttons.... And when she talked about how comfortable she will be showering and getting ready with him "you know, getting dressed and putting my make up on". And I guess I must have grunted because she giggled and said "he likes that I don't mind peeing while he's in the bathroom with me" and holy crap did that push me almost to the edge.
But it was when she told me that I've only filled 6 condoms with her and that Paul has fucked her at least 12 times already this year that I started to feel myself ready to cum and when she cooed at how she thinks "only feeling his stuff in me is really making me horny for him" that was when I spurted all over the place!!!!
Wish today hadn't been so hectic and crazy.
Strangely Sue told me last night that Paul wasn't going to be around this weekend. Although she did then tell me that I should expect him to be coming over next weekend - yes, Valentines weekend. She just left for work and mentioned that she wanted some time for us this weekend. Talk about ups and downs. More as it happens.
So Paul is going to be Sue's Valentine. And as Sue has already shared with you, she will not let you have her after Paul's done with her next time. So it seems, you will be enjoying true beta desires this valentine. What I sometimes wonder however, how can a person who has been in a loving relationship for so long, can enjoy anyone else on such a day. And how can anyone enjoy denying the love to as you might say "Love of life". Just my two bits!
A truly loving relationship does not always need to include intercourse. A husband and wife can have such a truly loving relationship were they continue to develop an even stronger connection and deeper intimacy without the intercourse being between the primary couple. Sue's sexual relationship with Paul does seem as if it was something that Steve and Sue both wanted, both desired and now Sue has given Steve what they have both desired. I personally do not see anything wrong with Paul becoming Sue's primary sexual partner while Steve remains Sue intimate loving partner if it works for them.
Steve thank you for your continued sharing and updates. I am sure that we all are looking forward to continued sharing.
Steve thank you for your continued sharing and updates. I am sure that we all are looking forward to continued sharing.
Sure a loving relationship does not always need to include intercourse, but it does mean spending special days with special people. It was in that context that I was wondering if Sue deciding to spend Valentine's day with Paul is good idea. Valentine Day is day of love. So would you spend that with the "Love of your life" or with your newfound lover. Sue's primary man is now Paul, that's for certain - with STB relegated to beta status which is getting reinforced every encounter they have with Paul. She says she loves Steve and while I have no doubts regarding that - spending V'day with her lover is something I am unable to digest. Not making love to the person you really love on the day of love is beyond me.
Steve. I flagged up my take on V day a while back. This should be no surprise to you and may even be quite exciting in cucky sort of way. Your reaction is entirely up to you but Sue has decided what she wants. On the issue of this weekend and just maybe if you're lucky, next week, I would suggest that when Sue does favour you with her pussy that you NEVER now try to fuck her. Make love to her. That is the connection she wants from you. I suspect if you had even jerked off before it wouldn't matter. Might even help. It's the closeness not the action she's after. If she ever wants more she will ask.
Rak, I can not speak for everyone on this forum although speaking for my own wife and myself we see V'Day as a Halmark Holiday, while some may call it a Day of Love, it is in essence a day just like any other. With that said, every husband should treat his wife, his partner as if everyday is a special day as she should always be the most special woman in his life.
Peak, I must say that I would agree with you, I believe that this approach would allow Steve to show Sue of his acceptance, encouragement and loving supportive side as he fully embraces his beta side.
Peak, I must say that I would agree with you, I believe that this approach would allow Steve to show Sue of his acceptance, encouragement and loving supportive side as he fully embraces his beta side.
peakmb said:
Stb, do you think you will have a high level of angst if you cum while they are having sex? I know sue would love to see so that she knows you are having a good time and accepting your role, but if you do Im just thinking it might make you upset in the post ejaculatory phase. I thunk you are so amped without cumming it keeps you engaged. Maybe they watch you jerk off afterward? Sue said she didnt see it happening this fast but i think she is obviously ready and waiting for you to give her the green light. Dont you think its time to let her pussy go?
Of all things surprising, we just got back from going skiing again. She called me at work on Friday and said that since Paul wasn't going to be around, maybe we could get away and she said "this time, just the 2 of us". We both cut out of work early and skied. To answer the likely questions, yes, we made love last night - she wanted it. Of course, it was accompanied by her announcement that she wants to spend Tuesday night at his place. Too tired after battling Winter Storm Marcus through the NY State highways to write more. Things are good. It was a good weekend, we talked a lot.
So, it was a bit of a surprise but one that I wasn't going to let slip by as it was hopefully one of the perks of having an empty-nest was the ability for us to just take off on a moments notice. What did surprise me was as we were throwing together the relatively few clothes we needed, was that she threw me 2 condoms and told me to "pack them for tomorrow night". I didn't ask and she really didn't say anything more about it. She was actually doing work in the car on the way up on Friday night. We talked briefly about Paul and that he wasn't going to be around and she joked "so you get the benefit of his absence" and it wasn't shortly after that when she brought up tomorrow night.
I will say that my first thought and response was to say something about it being so soon or something like that but instead, I said that I was sure we'd be able to make it work out. I knew there was more to what she wanted to say and sure enough, after some idle talk and after her going back to her laptop in the car and doing some more work she turned to me and said "what if I wanted to stay there every Tuesday night?" She added that I/we didn't have to talk about it then but it was something she wanted me to answer whether I would let her do it. She kissed me and said that she knew it was a big step and that we could talk about it over the weekend.
We got in late and this time we just stayed in a hotel room so I didn't really have flashbacks to the last ski trip. We were both pretty tired but she still made it a point to prance around naked as she got changed and to then have me spoon up behind her. Squirm and Far2 and others have talked about non-sexual closeness and I have to say that yes, I had a hard-on as we lay next to each other - but even she said how nice it was that we could just cuddle up - and from how she said it, it was obvious her meaning.
And while I didn't have flashbacks before, snugging up behind her did bring them back and I admit it was a struggle to fall asleep as I so wanted to wait and see if she was serious about Saturday night. Waking up that next morning, she seemed to want to be close to me and even sexually playful. She joined me in the shower and even stroked my cock a bit and teased that "we'll have some fun later" and she then enjoyed how big and hard it got from her attention! Enough that she deliberately went out of her way to spread her legs and more as she got dressed - all the while smiling my way.
It was very difficult getting into thermal underwear to go skiing in with a hardon!!!! But we did get out and wow is all I can say about conditions. She teased me during the day including telling me several times how the last time she was skiing she was wet from Paul all day and how "much of a workout" she'd gotten that weekend. I asked her what was up with the change in attitude and she told me that I should enjoy it and that she wanted to be sure that I knew she still loved me and wanted me - of course she added "you know, when Paul's not around....". I didn't tell her but that both stung and it turned me on.
I will say that my first thought and response was to say something about it being so soon or something like that but instead, I said that I was sure we'd be able to make it work out. I knew there was more to what she wanted to say and sure enough, after some idle talk and after her going back to her laptop in the car and doing some more work she turned to me and said "what if I wanted to stay there every Tuesday night?" She added that I/we didn't have to talk about it then but it was something she wanted me to answer whether I would let her do it. She kissed me and said that she knew it was a big step and that we could talk about it over the weekend.
We got in late and this time we just stayed in a hotel room so I didn't really have flashbacks to the last ski trip. We were both pretty tired but she still made it a point to prance around naked as she got changed and to then have me spoon up behind her. Squirm and Far2 and others have talked about non-sexual closeness and I have to say that yes, I had a hard-on as we lay next to each other - but even she said how nice it was that we could just cuddle up - and from how she said it, it was obvious her meaning.
And while I didn't have flashbacks before, snugging up behind her did bring them back and I admit it was a struggle to fall asleep as I so wanted to wait and see if she was serious about Saturday night. Waking up that next morning, she seemed to want to be close to me and even sexually playful. She joined me in the shower and even stroked my cock a bit and teased that "we'll have some fun later" and she then enjoyed how big and hard it got from her attention! Enough that she deliberately went out of her way to spread her legs and more as she got dressed - all the while smiling my way.
It was very difficult getting into thermal underwear to go skiing in with a hardon!!!! But we did get out and wow is all I can say about conditions. She teased me during the day including telling me several times how the last time she was skiing she was wet from Paul all day and how "much of a workout" she'd gotten that weekend. I asked her what was up with the change in attitude and she told me that I should enjoy it and that she wanted to be sure that I knew she still loved me and wanted me - of course she added "you know, when Paul's not around....". I didn't tell her but that both stung and it turned me on.
She built up to what she'd promised later in the evening. When I asked her again why she was doing this, this time she playfully answered that I "should remember what fun Paul had" and indeed, when we did move into the bedroom, she playfully teased me with every touch and every bit of clothing she removed, she told me how he had done this and how he had done that.
When I pulled off her panties she lay there on the bed as I stood and pulled off my boxes. Before I could climb back on the bed she stopped me and smiled at my almost fully hard cock and then she told me to look at her. She spread her legs apart and told me a bunch of stuff. Yes, we'd had a bit of wine and she was quite relaxed. She told me that she liked that she would control just how much I "get of this" and she patted her pussy and she looked at me and said that it turned her on that she was now totally in control. She leaned over and picked up my now hard cock and told me how much it turned her on to "not feel you in me" and she giggled and looked up at me and told me that it makes her wet when she thinks about me using condoms with her and she told me that she is pretty sure it's why she wants to be with Paul.
"But tonight, baby, I want you" and she lay back. For a moment I went to move further onto the bed thinking maybe she was giving me a shot at having her bare but that was dashed when, as if on automatic-pilot, she tossed me a foil container. She looked at me as I stayed totally hard as I rolled it onto my cock and she smiled and said "I love that it turns you on too".
Once our rhythm really got in sync, it really started to feel good and she really began to respond. It'd been a while since she was that enthusiastic with me and I felt her cum several times before she looked up at me with those deep, just-fucked eyes, and said that the rest was for me. I thought she might lay there as she sometimes will, but this time she was into it. And as I got closer she looked up at me and teased a bit and then she said something that made me explode unbelievably, she looked up at me and after going at it for a while she said in the most sexy voice ever, something like "oooh, really turns you on baby that you gave away my bare pussy doesn't it?" I know I slammed into her hard enough to make her grunt as she continued that with something about "...only he gets to feel me". Well, even now as I'm trying to make this short and at the same time convey how intense it was, when she kept talking, that was it - I was so glad I'd waited the night before. Even I was pretty proud of the load I left in that condom. I was about to pull it off when she sat herself up and pushed my hands away and she did the honors. She slid it off and held it in one hand - and then she surprised me again when she leaned forward and sucked my softening cock into her mouth and sucked me clean. However at the end, I understood and she leaned forward and kissed me and we shared a taste of what she'd just drawn out of me in a very deep and very French kiss.
She giggled when I was done that I did a good job as the beta guy. I told her that I didn't think she had it right but she said, yes, you said I should go to Paul first, he's not here so you got to benefit. Then she added a pointed "this time" and then she hugged me and told me that she liked it when she wanted it with me "like tonight, I wanted it WITH you". I was going to say something but she suddenly raised the condom she took off me and she looked at my cum in the translucent rubber and she said "and this turns me on too" and that was all she said as she tied a knot in the condom and dropped it in the trash.
When I pulled off her panties she lay there on the bed as I stood and pulled off my boxes. Before I could climb back on the bed she stopped me and smiled at my almost fully hard cock and then she told me to look at her. She spread her legs apart and told me a bunch of stuff. Yes, we'd had a bit of wine and she was quite relaxed. She told me that she liked that she would control just how much I "get of this" and she patted her pussy and she looked at me and said that it turned her on that she was now totally in control. She leaned over and picked up my now hard cock and told me how much it turned her on to "not feel you in me" and she giggled and looked up at me and told me that it makes her wet when she thinks about me using condoms with her and she told me that she is pretty sure it's why she wants to be with Paul.
"But tonight, baby, I want you" and she lay back. For a moment I went to move further onto the bed thinking maybe she was giving me a shot at having her bare but that was dashed when, as if on automatic-pilot, she tossed me a foil container. She looked at me as I stayed totally hard as I rolled it onto my cock and she smiled and said "I love that it turns you on too".
Once our rhythm really got in sync, it really started to feel good and she really began to respond. It'd been a while since she was that enthusiastic with me and I felt her cum several times before she looked up at me with those deep, just-fucked eyes, and said that the rest was for me. I thought she might lay there as she sometimes will, but this time she was into it. And as I got closer she looked up at me and teased a bit and then she said something that made me explode unbelievably, she looked up at me and after going at it for a while she said in the most sexy voice ever, something like "oooh, really turns you on baby that you gave away my bare pussy doesn't it?" I know I slammed into her hard enough to make her grunt as she continued that with something about "...only he gets to feel me". Well, even now as I'm trying to make this short and at the same time convey how intense it was, when she kept talking, that was it - I was so glad I'd waited the night before. Even I was pretty proud of the load I left in that condom. I was about to pull it off when she sat herself up and pushed my hands away and she did the honors. She slid it off and held it in one hand - and then she surprised me again when she leaned forward and sucked my softening cock into her mouth and sucked me clean. However at the end, I understood and she leaned forward and kissed me and we shared a taste of what she'd just drawn out of me in a very deep and very French kiss.
She giggled when I was done that I did a good job as the beta guy. I told her that I didn't think she had it right but she said, yes, you said I should go to Paul first, he's not here so you got to benefit. Then she added a pointed "this time" and then she hugged me and told me that she liked it when she wanted it with me "like tonight, I wanted it WITH you". I was going to say something but she suddenly raised the condom she took off me and she looked at my cum in the translucent rubber and she said "and this turns me on too" and that was all she said as she tied a knot in the condom and dropped it in the trash.
A great weekend to reconnect a bit sexually but begin to pull away a bit more, Sue is doing a great job of leading you. It seems as if you are enjoying it, correct? So what are your thoughts on tonight and every tuesday? Might be a good time to barter for a blow job or hand job or clean up. You know this is going to me tuesday and wednesday in short order. Maybe pictures of post sex pussy would be appropriate so you can relieve yourself on those nights? I am really surprised that he hasnt been over at your hiuse for more sleepovers where you get to sleep in a spare room.
So - the obvious culmination to the Saturday night's fun was her announcement that she will be staying overnight with him tonight!
In looking back at it, she is marvelously manipulative!!! She gave me my night of closeness and reconnecting (although she did not have her Big-O - something she did remind me of) and now is off to spend a night with him tonight. She teased me on Sunday that "it's different having sex with you last night" and she giggled as we got off the ski-lift one time when she said "I'm not all wet and sticky from you" and giggled as she skied away.
Yesterday was almost "normal" except for a little conversation before bed when she reminded me about today.
This morning, I would have joined her in the shower but she said she needed a moment "to finish" and as I stood there staring at her, she raised one leg to shave and as I watched she let me see as she spread her legs and let me watch her run the razor over her still bare pussy mound. I watched as she pulled her pussy lips to one side and touched up each side as well as back towards her butt. She smiled broadly as she changed legs and then she rinsed off and giggled at my now hard cock as I got in and took her place.
But what was different today was that she asked me to help pick out some clothes for her. As we went through different lingerie and she held each to her and asked what I thought, my cock grew harder and harder. When we picked out a pair of dark-red lace panties and a lacy-front camisole to match and she folded it up and put it in her bag - she was in her bra and panties that she was going to wear to work and she came up to me and kissed and hugged me and felt my hard cock under my towel and she looked up at me and said what we'd talked about. She kissed me and told me that I SHOULD relieve myself tonight if I need to and she said a lot of what everyone here has said and what I'd begun to conclude myself. She told me that it would really turn her on to know that I'd been horny enough that I needed to masturbate.
I told her that I was really horny at that moment (and still am as I am still not dressed as my cock is still throbbing hard as I"m typing this) and she said that I should think about her today and I took a moment to laugh at her and said "as if I have a choice". But we had a minute where she turned to me and I looked at her and I told her that I was very turned on by what she was doing. She hugged me and said that she really liked hearing me say that to her just then. I told her that it turned me on to know what I was helping her pack for and I said something about the "whole thing" turning me on. She asked me to tell her more and I said what I'd told her, that it's not just the sex that turns me on when she spends the night with him but that it's all of the rest of it and as I started to say "you know, the whole routine..." and she interrupted me and pulled me to her and sort of giggled but said in a clear way "that I share what used to be yours only?" and I just nodded as I just couldn't say anything other than a simple yes. She pulled me to her and I know she could feel how hard I was and she said she loved me and as she ground herself against my body she smiled and said "it's okay that it turns you on, I think it's really sexy". She opened her closet and turned to me and asked me if I wanted to help pick out what she'd wear on Wednesday. She picked out a nice longer dress and then went back to her underwear drawer and picked out panties and a bra to wear. She saw staring at her in the mirror.
So, I have a wet spot already in the underwear I pulled on and I am so on the edge of just jerking off now and relieving the tension.
Far2 - she hasn't mentioned again about making this an every-week occurrence but I think it is a done-deal. She has not mentioned Tuesday and Wednesday, 2 nights, in a while now so perhaps she has reset her clock on that? As far as here - Paul will be here this weekend although she is now saying that "maybe Sunday would be better" - I haven't asked her more on that yet, perhaps she still wants Valentines Day to be for us which would be nice although I should supppose not to expect sex with her lol.
I'll have more time tonight as I will surely be online with little else to do.
In looking back at it, she is marvelously manipulative!!! She gave me my night of closeness and reconnecting (although she did not have her Big-O - something she did remind me of) and now is off to spend a night with him tonight. She teased me on Sunday that "it's different having sex with you last night" and she giggled as we got off the ski-lift one time when she said "I'm not all wet and sticky from you" and giggled as she skied away.
Yesterday was almost "normal" except for a little conversation before bed when she reminded me about today.
This morning, I would have joined her in the shower but she said she needed a moment "to finish" and as I stood there staring at her, she raised one leg to shave and as I watched she let me see as she spread her legs and let me watch her run the razor over her still bare pussy mound. I watched as she pulled her pussy lips to one side and touched up each side as well as back towards her butt. She smiled broadly as she changed legs and then she rinsed off and giggled at my now hard cock as I got in and took her place.
But what was different today was that she asked me to help pick out some clothes for her. As we went through different lingerie and she held each to her and asked what I thought, my cock grew harder and harder. When we picked out a pair of dark-red lace panties and a lacy-front camisole to match and she folded it up and put it in her bag - she was in her bra and panties that she was going to wear to work and she came up to me and kissed and hugged me and felt my hard cock under my towel and she looked up at me and said what we'd talked about. She kissed me and told me that I SHOULD relieve myself tonight if I need to and she said a lot of what everyone here has said and what I'd begun to conclude myself. She told me that it would really turn her on to know that I'd been horny enough that I needed to masturbate.
I told her that I was really horny at that moment (and still am as I am still not dressed as my cock is still throbbing hard as I"m typing this) and she said that I should think about her today and I took a moment to laugh at her and said "as if I have a choice". But we had a minute where she turned to me and I looked at her and I told her that I was very turned on by what she was doing. She hugged me and said that she really liked hearing me say that to her just then. I told her that it turned me on to know what I was helping her pack for and I said something about the "whole thing" turning me on. She asked me to tell her more and I said what I'd told her, that it's not just the sex that turns me on when she spends the night with him but that it's all of the rest of it and as I started to say "you know, the whole routine..." and she interrupted me and pulled me to her and sort of giggled but said in a clear way "that I share what used to be yours only?" and I just nodded as I just couldn't say anything other than a simple yes. She pulled me to her and I know she could feel how hard I was and she said she loved me and as she ground herself against my body she smiled and said "it's okay that it turns you on, I think it's really sexy". She opened her closet and turned to me and asked me if I wanted to help pick out what she'd wear on Wednesday. She picked out a nice longer dress and then went back to her underwear drawer and picked out panties and a bra to wear. She saw staring at her in the mirror.
So, I have a wet spot already in the underwear I pulled on and I am so on the edge of just jerking off now and relieving the tension.
Far2 - she hasn't mentioned again about making this an every-week occurrence but I think it is a done-deal. She has not mentioned Tuesday and Wednesday, 2 nights, in a while now so perhaps she has reset her clock on that? As far as here - Paul will be here this weekend although she is now saying that "maybe Sunday would be better" - I haven't asked her more on that yet, perhaps she still wants Valentines Day to be for us which would be nice although I should supppose not to expect sex with her lol.
I'll have more time tonight as I will surely be online with little else to do.
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