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Steve - it is good to hear that all is going well with you and Sue. As to your friends that you mentioned in your last post, it is not uncommon for couples to divorce as they come to find themselves in an empty nest if the couple has not remained connected and intimate in many ways throughout the marriage as so many couples only stay together for the sake of the children.
Squirm - yes, that really spurred a lot of discussion between us. We both totally agreed that my cuckoldry is a key part of what's kept us as good as we are. She totally admitted that sex for her has become a huge part of her satisfaction in life especially with the empty-nest thing. She says that her "empowerment" as she now recognizes it has kept her very much enamored with our relationship and especially regarding sex between us where even though it isn't nearly as frequent, it is as I've long said, so much more fulfilling for both of us.
I finally have a bit of downtime at work to update a bit more.
A big part of our discussion was her continued enjoyment of "it's my vagina and I'll share it how I want to" and we have both recognized now that yes, my using condoms with her was/is still very satisfying - that she also knows now that since I've had her bare again, that it will be all the more pointed when she restricts me to using them when Paul is here. As she's said, she enjoys knowing it's hers to control.
That said, she also did say that it felt different me cumming in her again and made some comments that she felt different afterwards. I told her that it was likely in her head but that it had been a long time since she's had my semen in her and she giggled that it was good that it wasn't going to be something we did all the time - so she has no intention of letting me have her bare on a regular basis. She asked me how that was going to make me feel, especially after feeling her again and I had to admit that it seemed to arouse me even more now. She said she liked that and again that she would be the one to decide when I will get to have that again with her. But it does seem that "special occasions" as well as "whenever I like" will be the rule of thumb. She actually laughed and said that I might want to not masturbate quite so much because "you never know when". So that is something we will be exploring a bit more with.
Tomorrow night will be the first time she's spent the night with Paul in a long time now and, as she said, she wants it one more time in our house before things will start to change with the kids being home. Our daughter just updated that she'll be away for the weekend and won't be home now till Monday so there's no risk in Paul staying over.
That's about all there is for now.
I finally have a bit of downtime at work to update a bit more.
A big part of our discussion was her continued enjoyment of "it's my vagina and I'll share it how I want to" and we have both recognized now that yes, my using condoms with her was/is still very satisfying - that she also knows now that since I've had her bare again, that it will be all the more pointed when she restricts me to using them when Paul is here. As she's said, she enjoys knowing it's hers to control.
That said, she also did say that it felt different me cumming in her again and made some comments that she felt different afterwards. I told her that it was likely in her head but that it had been a long time since she's had my semen in her and she giggled that it was good that it wasn't going to be something we did all the time - so she has no intention of letting me have her bare on a regular basis. She asked me how that was going to make me feel, especially after feeling her again and I had to admit that it seemed to arouse me even more now. She said she liked that and again that she would be the one to decide when I will get to have that again with her. But it does seem that "special occasions" as well as "whenever I like" will be the rule of thumb. She actually laughed and said that I might want to not masturbate quite so much because "you never know when". So that is something we will be exploring a bit more with.
Tomorrow night will be the first time she's spent the night with Paul in a long time now and, as she said, she wants it one more time in our house before things will start to change with the kids being home. Our daughter just updated that she'll be away for the weekend and won't be home now till Monday so there's no risk in Paul staying over.
That's about all there is for now.
Steve,
Thanks for the update. I don't think you will regret the position you have taken. It would be nice to hear about how you got there but getting there itself is probably the key point. It seems even Paul will be happy, he never did bother what you two got up to as long as he got his share did he? Perhaps some measure of the man as well. Perhaps as the 'special factor' has been lost or diluted greatly, Sue may start to recognise this more. Most importantly, I do believe you have taken the steps to help prevent you going down the same path as your friends. If you do decide to change your posting habits, I do hope you drop by sometimes to let us know how it's going for you both. After all this time it would be a shame to lose you entirely. Good luck and have a great weekend.
Thanks for the update. I don't think you will regret the position you have taken. It would be nice to hear about how you got there but getting there itself is probably the key point. It seems even Paul will be happy, he never did bother what you two got up to as long as he got his share did he? Perhaps some measure of the man as well. Perhaps as the 'special factor' has been lost or diluted greatly, Sue may start to recognise this more. Most importantly, I do believe you have taken the steps to help prevent you going down the same path as your friends. If you do decide to change your posting habits, I do hope you drop by sometimes to let us know how it's going for you both. After all this time it would be a shame to lose you entirely. Good luck and have a great weekend.
Steve,
I'm glad that things are good for you and Sue. By that I mean that you have both looked at where you are and decided what is best for your marriage at this time. You and Sue seem to stretch your hotwife and cuckold boundaries, pull back a bit and then stretch some more. Your generous sharing of your trials, tribulations, and joys along the way have provided me with a lot to think about as i try to get my wife to move in this direction.
I don't know what your friends' reasons are for splitting but it can often be a diminished sexual activity. You may not have sex and ejaculate in Sue as often as before, but you certainly have an abundance of sex play! The games can be more fulfilling and much better than the actual release. That I believe is what keeps your marriage strong. Best of luck with this new direction.
I'm glad that things are good for you and Sue. By that I mean that you have both looked at where you are and decided what is best for your marriage at this time. You and Sue seem to stretch your hotwife and cuckold boundaries, pull back a bit and then stretch some more. Your generous sharing of your trials, tribulations, and joys along the way have provided me with a lot to think about as i try to get my wife to move in this direction.
I don't know what your friends' reasons are for splitting but it can often be a diminished sexual activity. You may not have sex and ejaculate in Sue as often as before, but you certainly have an abundance of sex play! The games can be more fulfilling and much better than the actual release. That I believe is what keeps your marriage strong. Best of luck with this new direction.
Steve, you said you couldn't remember the last time. It was 21st June 2015. A Sunday morning at the end of a weekend away. That was supposed to be a recovery session too. It was Sue saying she needed to do that more often and that she needed it too. The start of a new beginning for you both. For whatever reason you didn't back in until this week. History sometimes repeats itself, sometimes you learn from it. Your choice.
I hope to want to continue posting here, as I've said all along, it seems to help me with understanding myself.
I can say quite clearly how we got here. We were truly honest with each other spurred a bit by the news of friends separating. We both knew we still had a bit of tension and it just felt right to clear the air.
I was honest with her and I told her that I hadn't cum in her in so long was something that profoundly turned me on to know that she wanted as well as me. It felt good to tell her things so clearly and in response she told me how incredible it made her feel to have that control and know that it turned her on as much as it had me. Our feelings inside are different - she doesn't fully understand it but accepts that I am turned on that she would want and give that intimacy to Paul and deny me. The thought that only he had truly felt and experienced and shared her sex in this way for so long only seemed to turn me on even more. For her, she could only say that it was a feeling of power and control and that knowing it turned me on made it easier for her to want it - first to satisfy me, but then, definitely to satisfy herself.
I told her that what I felt I wanted was to feel as if she was fulfilling that - and for her to share and even flaunt it. But as we talked, she asked me if it wouldn't turn me on even more to have sex with her and cum in her sometimes. The more we talked, what I realized was that I wanted her to act and do it more in some ways - to tease me that her pussy is just Pauls for now - and yes, to not know when she may want to let me share her sexually again. She asked me if it wasn't better for me when I would restrain myself in the hopes of having sex with her not knowing whether I would or not. I admitted that it was - and then even admitted that at times, when she would say no or that she had enough or was sore from Paul - that when I would masturbate to those thoughts, that it was even more intense.
But I also told her that I felt a distance between us and that as she asked me about periodically cumming in her, it suddenly seemed to make me realize that her controlling that with me - and yes, her open admission that "it's not going to be very often" that made me realize it might be what is good for us. Yes, I know others here suggested that and I admit to being a bit more closed minded than I should be.
When she spoke, it was totally about how she loves the feeling of being in control of 2 men and how incredible it made her feel to do what I'd said - to give herself sexually to another man and to learn to truly enjoy it for herself. She said that every time I would put a condom on she said she felt herself get wet knowing what we were doing. And she did say it very clearly - she loves, not just likes, but loves that I didn't cum in her for so long. I haven't told her it was 8 months but she knows it's been long enough that she said she had forgotten how it felt for me to let go in her - from how different my cock feels in her bare to how much more he cums but how much more open she feels from me. Thing was, I could tell, just as how I felt, that she felt good saying what I think she had long been keeping inside.
She also said several times that she would like to do what I'd said - to make it more real for me and play it up more with Paul and to tease me more about it but at the same time, allow me to participate with them sometimes. She asked me how I would feel if it were her who teased me more when I was there with them and she smiled and said sometimes that would be nice. I asked her what she meant and she said - literally "for example, what if I told you to stay next to me and watch while Paul fucks me?". She reminded me how he doesn't really care or want to be between us at all and that she's continued to be coaching him - she admitted to sometimes asking/telling him that she wanted me to be there with them at times. And his response was that it's okay and that he's used to it now as long as he also gets some alone time with her.
She is out getting all prettied up as Paul will be here around 4pm. I told her I would give her time with him alone and would likely bring home some pizza's and wine for us for dinner and I told her to text me when she wanted me to come home. I am actually eager to be there with them tonight and, if she's in the mood, to don a condom and take my turn with her - but at the same time, as she's already warned me, that if he's staying the night, then she will likely just want to be with him and that I can "wait or not".
I think we made a lot of breakthroughs in our talks, and I suspect, from how she's talked about it, that her "treats for me" when I will get to have her bare may be more frequent but unpredictable too.
Let me run
I can say quite clearly how we got here. We were truly honest with each other spurred a bit by the news of friends separating. We both knew we still had a bit of tension and it just felt right to clear the air.
I was honest with her and I told her that I hadn't cum in her in so long was something that profoundly turned me on to know that she wanted as well as me. It felt good to tell her things so clearly and in response she told me how incredible it made her feel to have that control and know that it turned her on as much as it had me. Our feelings inside are different - she doesn't fully understand it but accepts that I am turned on that she would want and give that intimacy to Paul and deny me. The thought that only he had truly felt and experienced and shared her sex in this way for so long only seemed to turn me on even more. For her, she could only say that it was a feeling of power and control and that knowing it turned me on made it easier for her to want it - first to satisfy me, but then, definitely to satisfy herself.
I told her that what I felt I wanted was to feel as if she was fulfilling that - and for her to share and even flaunt it. But as we talked, she asked me if it wouldn't turn me on even more to have sex with her and cum in her sometimes. The more we talked, what I realized was that I wanted her to act and do it more in some ways - to tease me that her pussy is just Pauls for now - and yes, to not know when she may want to let me share her sexually again. She asked me if it wasn't better for me when I would restrain myself in the hopes of having sex with her not knowing whether I would or not. I admitted that it was - and then even admitted that at times, when she would say no or that she had enough or was sore from Paul - that when I would masturbate to those thoughts, that it was even more intense.
But I also told her that I felt a distance between us and that as she asked me about periodically cumming in her, it suddenly seemed to make me realize that her controlling that with me - and yes, her open admission that "it's not going to be very often" that made me realize it might be what is good for us. Yes, I know others here suggested that and I admit to being a bit more closed minded than I should be.
When she spoke, it was totally about how she loves the feeling of being in control of 2 men and how incredible it made her feel to do what I'd said - to give herself sexually to another man and to learn to truly enjoy it for herself. She said that every time I would put a condom on she said she felt herself get wet knowing what we were doing. And she did say it very clearly - she loves, not just likes, but loves that I didn't cum in her for so long. I haven't told her it was 8 months but she knows it's been long enough that she said she had forgotten how it felt for me to let go in her - from how different my cock feels in her bare to how much more he cums but how much more open she feels from me. Thing was, I could tell, just as how I felt, that she felt good saying what I think she had long been keeping inside.
She also said several times that she would like to do what I'd said - to make it more real for me and play it up more with Paul and to tease me more about it but at the same time, allow me to participate with them sometimes. She asked me how I would feel if it were her who teased me more when I was there with them and she smiled and said sometimes that would be nice. I asked her what she meant and she said - literally "for example, what if I told you to stay next to me and watch while Paul fucks me?". She reminded me how he doesn't really care or want to be between us at all and that she's continued to be coaching him - she admitted to sometimes asking/telling him that she wanted me to be there with them at times. And his response was that it's okay and that he's used to it now as long as he also gets some alone time with her.
She is out getting all prettied up as Paul will be here around 4pm. I told her I would give her time with him alone and would likely bring home some pizza's and wine for us for dinner and I told her to text me when she wanted me to come home. I am actually eager to be there with them tonight and, if she's in the mood, to don a condom and take my turn with her - but at the same time, as she's already warned me, that if he's staying the night, then she will likely just want to be with him and that I can "wait or not".
I think we made a lot of breakthroughs in our talks, and I suspect, from how she's talked about it, that her "treats for me" when I will get to have her bare may be more frequent but unpredictable too.
Let me run
Have you discussed letting Sue control your orgasms? I might be reading into what you wrote above, but it seems as if doing so would give her more "control" of her sexuality and yours. No chastity needed but it would certainly keep you amped up! Still sounds like you are having a great time with your lifestyle.
Paul did come over and stay the night with us and, well, let me just say it was a little different than in the past.
Sue was much more vocal and also interestingly focused on me too....
I had surely thought they'd have rocked the house by when I came home after texting her "ready for pizza?" and her reply of "yes". But when I came in at about 6:30, they were both still dressed but I did notice that her bra had come off so I knew they'd had some fun. What was more apparent was that Paul was also behaving a little different and I also saw that it was very much her doing too. She had said she'd been talking with Paul more, I had assumed they were talking about her and her desires/pleasure, but what I almost immediately felt was that she has been pushing Paul into taking a bit more of a submissive role and I have to admit, as she had said, she did seem to enjoy having the two of us wait on her so to speak. She asked or rather told him what to get her for pizza and told me to bring her a glass of wine.
We all talked pretty freely including about the ski weekend - different comments weaved in and out of the rest of the conversation about the total lack of snow and crappy season it had turned out to be. Sue joked that the fun she was about to have could be in replacement of the 2nd trip that never happened which made us all laugh. But at other times she teased me with Paul there about how much fun it was to "let go for that weekend like that" and she put her hand on Paul's leg at that comment. Another time it was Paul who let it slip that he liked it when she'd said she was cold and he pulled her closer without realizing what he'd said in front of me, but I also realized it was Sue coaxing the conversation.
At some point they went up and I followed with some more wine and when I got there she turned to me and said "you should just watch for a little while honey". And I proceeded to watch her turn and kiss him quite passionately and to then both of them furtively getting their pants off. Sue lay back on the bed with just her panties and top on and she looked at me and said "you said you liked to watch me give myself to Paul, now you can be right here". And with that she turned to him as he climbed on the bed. I sat on the chair/ottoman/trunk we have at the foot of the bed now and watched as his hands caressed her breasts and I could so see her nipples get rock hard. Her hand looked equally comfortable on his cock through his boxers.
But what was really sexy was how she motioned me onto the bed next to her and held my hand as she raised her butt up and she whispered "I feel so sexy when I do this with him" loud enough for him to hear too. And as she did - he reached under her and pulled her panties off slowly. I was sitting almost next to her so I saw what it looked like from her view - my god was she sexy as she kept her legs together at first and then held my hand more firmly as she spread them and pulled them back. I never really realized how much of her own pussy she can see when she curves herself up but I could see her bare pussy slowly spread for him and it was incredibly erotic.
She whispered, but again loud enough so he could hear and told me "he's going to lick me first" and I saw how erotic she must feel opening herself like that for him. A moment later she let out this intense moan as I watched him lick her. She held my hand even tighter and she looked like she was totally enjoying her new role!
I don't know how long he licked her - of course I was jealous, even more now that I'd felt her bare again and knew what he would be enjoying and she must have known it because she turned her head to me and whispered again "you can have me tomorrow honey, tonight I just want to be with Paul". I looked downward and he looked upward at the same time and then he looked away. I felt a little embarassed but also incredibly turned on by her apparent openness. I wasn't sure what was going to happen until, as he went back to lick her a little more she again whispered "but I want you to stay with me tonight too".
I can't even recall how everything from there went because I was just surprised at everything she was doing. I know that when she said that she waited a moment and then said "if you want to, that is....". And from there on - everything was like a blur.
It took them forever to finally fuck. And she wanted me to stay the whole time. She said a few things to me but mostly it was her moaning and whispering with Paul. I stayed on the bed for a bit but then moved to the ottoman thing and watched. At first she had her top still on and was eagerly undressing him. She sucked him way past where I'd have cum already and I almost felt bad in a way because it seemed she would get him closer and closer but then stop and suggest he lay down or that they move in this position or that. Paul said a little but it seemed he was content to do what she'd said - but I got the distinct impression he wasn't sure about it all and was sort of going along by some of what he'd said the next morning.
Finally - I could tell she was more than ready. Her nipples were so hard and darkened in color and her pussy was very wet and when she moved to lay back against the pillow to I guess,signal she was ready to be fucked, I could see her pussy was also very swollen and also similary darkened in color.
He moved in and as I'd seen before, he teased the heck out of her - but he never looked at or really said anything to me. But he rubbed his cock up and down and then - as she moaned out loud, he would slowly start to push it into her. She reached for my hand and when I held it she said "you like watching this, right baby?" as if it were nothing. I moaned back an "uh huh" as I realized I wasn't going to be able to stand being there if I didn't jerk-off alongside them. I moaned and moved as I slid my own pants and boxers off and she must have opened her eyes because she said "that's good baby, enjoy it too".
A moment later he simply pushed his cock into her as if it were nothing to me - she grunted for a second and then when she felt him slowly push in, she moaned and drew her legs back for him. I've been there many times with Paul and others seeing her have sex - but this was a little different than before because I felt her hand tighten on mine and she said out loud "feels sooooo good....".
We'd long finished off the wine and I saw that it was after 11pm as I moved again on the bed - they were on her mattress in our king-size bed and I was on my side and watched. She held my hand for a moment longer until they reached a rhythm and let mine go. That was maybe the most erotic moment in a long long time.
For how much she'd teased, sucked and gotten him close, he seemed to last forever. I won't say I got tired of watching, but after a little while I will say I almost wanted to encourage him to cum already - but Sue just kept saying "oh yeah, more, more" I didn't even see her open her eyes until I heard her moan "mmmm... cum.... soon.....". She was looking at me and in some ways I thought she was saying it to me - and maybe she was - but she was also saying it to him and wanted (confirmed later) to see me and know that I knew it was going to happen soon. She later told me she wanted me to be there when he came in her and we talked a bit about how it made me feel to know that I wasn't going to feel that again with her now until she wanted it again. I told her that it wasn't just seeing and knowing he'd cum - it was obvious when he did - but it was how he stayed in her and how they hugged and rocked back and forth on the bed while he was still in her that really got to me and I don't think either of them (she didn't) realized that was when I finally came and let go all over my leg on my side of the bed.
What surprised me even more was when she said that I could stay with them in our bed if I wanted. When I said yes, we all got up and put some robes on and went down to the kitchen for a before-bed snack. It felt so erotic when she sat on his lap as we had some fruit and a drink of water before bed (the orange melon wasn't great but the green and watermelon was good) and then went back up to the bedroom. Actually I let the two of them go while I locked the house up.
They were both in the bathroom together - the door was open but I don't think they realized I was there. I didn't recognize what was going on at first until Paul said "your turn" and through the opening in the door I saw her sit on the toilet as I heard the water come on in the sink and could see him washing up. She told me after he left the next day that she did that on purpose - that she knew I would be in the bedroom and she knew/remembered that it was something that turned me on. A few moments later they both came out in their robes and as I went in for my turn to wash up and stuff she said to me "you're wearing boxers tonight" and then as I went into the bathroom, the both put their robes on the trunk-thing and they got into her side of the bed naked together. When I came out a few minutes later they were both lying against the pillows with the blanket/sheet up to just above her breasts and his chest and they had the TV on. I pulled a pair of boxers on before I took my robe off and she smiled at me as I got into bed with them.
Sue was much more vocal and also interestingly focused on me too....
I had surely thought they'd have rocked the house by when I came home after texting her "ready for pizza?" and her reply of "yes". But when I came in at about 6:30, they were both still dressed but I did notice that her bra had come off so I knew they'd had some fun. What was more apparent was that Paul was also behaving a little different and I also saw that it was very much her doing too. She had said she'd been talking with Paul more, I had assumed they were talking about her and her desires/pleasure, but what I almost immediately felt was that she has been pushing Paul into taking a bit more of a submissive role and I have to admit, as she had said, she did seem to enjoy having the two of us wait on her so to speak. She asked or rather told him what to get her for pizza and told me to bring her a glass of wine.
We all talked pretty freely including about the ski weekend - different comments weaved in and out of the rest of the conversation about the total lack of snow and crappy season it had turned out to be. Sue joked that the fun she was about to have could be in replacement of the 2nd trip that never happened which made us all laugh. But at other times she teased me with Paul there about how much fun it was to "let go for that weekend like that" and she put her hand on Paul's leg at that comment. Another time it was Paul who let it slip that he liked it when she'd said she was cold and he pulled her closer without realizing what he'd said in front of me, but I also realized it was Sue coaxing the conversation.
At some point they went up and I followed with some more wine and when I got there she turned to me and said "you should just watch for a little while honey". And I proceeded to watch her turn and kiss him quite passionately and to then both of them furtively getting their pants off. Sue lay back on the bed with just her panties and top on and she looked at me and said "you said you liked to watch me give myself to Paul, now you can be right here". And with that she turned to him as he climbed on the bed. I sat on the chair/ottoman/trunk we have at the foot of the bed now and watched as his hands caressed her breasts and I could so see her nipples get rock hard. Her hand looked equally comfortable on his cock through his boxers.
But what was really sexy was how she motioned me onto the bed next to her and held my hand as she raised her butt up and she whispered "I feel so sexy when I do this with him" loud enough for him to hear too. And as she did - he reached under her and pulled her panties off slowly. I was sitting almost next to her so I saw what it looked like from her view - my god was she sexy as she kept her legs together at first and then held my hand more firmly as she spread them and pulled them back. I never really realized how much of her own pussy she can see when she curves herself up but I could see her bare pussy slowly spread for him and it was incredibly erotic.
She whispered, but again loud enough so he could hear and told me "he's going to lick me first" and I saw how erotic she must feel opening herself like that for him. A moment later she let out this intense moan as I watched him lick her. She held my hand even tighter and she looked like she was totally enjoying her new role!
I don't know how long he licked her - of course I was jealous, even more now that I'd felt her bare again and knew what he would be enjoying and she must have known it because she turned her head to me and whispered again "you can have me tomorrow honey, tonight I just want to be with Paul". I looked downward and he looked upward at the same time and then he looked away. I felt a little embarassed but also incredibly turned on by her apparent openness. I wasn't sure what was going to happen until, as he went back to lick her a little more she again whispered "but I want you to stay with me tonight too".
I can't even recall how everything from there went because I was just surprised at everything she was doing. I know that when she said that she waited a moment and then said "if you want to, that is....". And from there on - everything was like a blur.
It took them forever to finally fuck. And she wanted me to stay the whole time. She said a few things to me but mostly it was her moaning and whispering with Paul. I stayed on the bed for a bit but then moved to the ottoman thing and watched. At first she had her top still on and was eagerly undressing him. She sucked him way past where I'd have cum already and I almost felt bad in a way because it seemed she would get him closer and closer but then stop and suggest he lay down or that they move in this position or that. Paul said a little but it seemed he was content to do what she'd said - but I got the distinct impression he wasn't sure about it all and was sort of going along by some of what he'd said the next morning.
Finally - I could tell she was more than ready. Her nipples were so hard and darkened in color and her pussy was very wet and when she moved to lay back against the pillow to I guess,signal she was ready to be fucked, I could see her pussy was also very swollen and also similary darkened in color.
He moved in and as I'd seen before, he teased the heck out of her - but he never looked at or really said anything to me. But he rubbed his cock up and down and then - as she moaned out loud, he would slowly start to push it into her. She reached for my hand and when I held it she said "you like watching this, right baby?" as if it were nothing. I moaned back an "uh huh" as I realized I wasn't going to be able to stand being there if I didn't jerk-off alongside them. I moaned and moved as I slid my own pants and boxers off and she must have opened her eyes because she said "that's good baby, enjoy it too".
A moment later he simply pushed his cock into her as if it were nothing to me - she grunted for a second and then when she felt him slowly push in, she moaned and drew her legs back for him. I've been there many times with Paul and others seeing her have sex - but this was a little different than before because I felt her hand tighten on mine and she said out loud "feels sooooo good....".
We'd long finished off the wine and I saw that it was after 11pm as I moved again on the bed - they were on her mattress in our king-size bed and I was on my side and watched. She held my hand for a moment longer until they reached a rhythm and let mine go. That was maybe the most erotic moment in a long long time.
For how much she'd teased, sucked and gotten him close, he seemed to last forever. I won't say I got tired of watching, but after a little while I will say I almost wanted to encourage him to cum already - but Sue just kept saying "oh yeah, more, more" I didn't even see her open her eyes until I heard her moan "mmmm... cum.... soon.....". She was looking at me and in some ways I thought she was saying it to me - and maybe she was - but she was also saying it to him and wanted (confirmed later) to see me and know that I knew it was going to happen soon. She later told me she wanted me to be there when he came in her and we talked a bit about how it made me feel to know that I wasn't going to feel that again with her now until she wanted it again. I told her that it wasn't just seeing and knowing he'd cum - it was obvious when he did - but it was how he stayed in her and how they hugged and rocked back and forth on the bed while he was still in her that really got to me and I don't think either of them (she didn't) realized that was when I finally came and let go all over my leg on my side of the bed.
What surprised me even more was when she said that I could stay with them in our bed if I wanted. When I said yes, we all got up and put some robes on and went down to the kitchen for a before-bed snack. It felt so erotic when she sat on his lap as we had some fruit and a drink of water before bed (the orange melon wasn't great but the green and watermelon was good) and then went back up to the bedroom. Actually I let the two of them go while I locked the house up.
They were both in the bathroom together - the door was open but I don't think they realized I was there. I didn't recognize what was going on at first until Paul said "your turn" and through the opening in the door I saw her sit on the toilet as I heard the water come on in the sink and could see him washing up. She told me after he left the next day that she did that on purpose - that she knew I would be in the bedroom and she knew/remembered that it was something that turned me on. A few moments later they both came out in their robes and as I went in for my turn to wash up and stuff she said to me "you're wearing boxers tonight" and then as I went into the bathroom, the both put their robes on the trunk-thing and they got into her side of the bed naked together. When I came out a few minutes later they were both lying against the pillows with the blanket/sheet up to just above her breasts and his chest and they had the TV on. I pulled a pair of boxers on before I took my robe off and she smiled at me as I got into bed with them.
Steve,
I wonder how much preparation Sue put into Paul before all of that? He got what he wanted in the end but the route for him was a little different. As for you, we await the result of course but the intro to your day on Sunday seems to have been pretty good for both of you. I hope you tell us how that went too, and how Sue is going to be treating (maybe not the right word now!) you mid-week too. Plans for tonight?
I wonder how much preparation Sue put into Paul before all of that? He got what he wanted in the end but the route for him was a little different. As for you, we await the result of course but the intro to your day on Sunday seems to have been pretty good for both of you. I hope you tell us how that went too, and how Sue is going to be treating (maybe not the right word now!) you mid-week too. Plans for tonight?
Peak - she did tell me that she had some of these ideas in her head for a while but our recent discussions had led her to decide to act on some of them. Now, mind you, I didn't know any of what she was planning at all I just knew that it was something that we'd only talked in abstract about - her spending the night with both of us - but never with any specifics.
And she has now also admitted that it was fun to push my buttons as she did and she admitted to going a little overboard in there. But it wasn't like a movie-scene where they were next to each other or really tucked in - just sort of lying there - it is a big bed.
It surprised me that she turned to me and then rolled over to me and hugged and kissed me and told me she loved me. She didn't resist when I ran my hands down her body and felt her nakedness - she later told me she knew from how I looked at her just then that she liked what she'd setup for the night. She even let me put my fingers in her pussy and feel the warmth still in there. She pulled me close before I pulled my fingers out and the she reached down and guided my hand up and made me kiss her as we both licked off my finger. Another moment she remembered and reminded me of afterwards too.
I was still not sure what was going on but then she leaned over, kissed me again and then said out loud "you can stay as long as you want to". And then, yes, it was a scene from a movie. She giggled and went under the covers and I could see her lay against his leg under the covers and then it was obvious she was sucking his cock. Paul turned to look at me and I said "it's okay, enjoy her" and with that, I slid out of the bed, grabbed some extra clothes (t-shirt and socks) and my phone and I left them in the bed. She had come up from under the cover - I guess when she felt me moving maybe - but she didn't turn to look at me and when I stopped at the bedroom door she was lying on him kissing him.
My cock was hard again seeing them but at the same time, I did want to save myself some enjoyment with her after he left. But I will also say that lying in the bed in our office/spare-bedroom and thinking of how I left them was just incredibly exciting. My cock was so hard and I just lay there thinking about what they were doing that I'd just touch it a bit and keep it hard until I dozed off myself.
I was annoyed that they'd let me sleep in on Sunday morning and I missed them getting ready together - I told Sue that too - she knew it but I told her anyway that it turned me on. She giggled and said "okay, then I'll make sure you're there next time" and giggled some more - but that was after he'd left. Instead I came in to both of them sitting at the kitchen table. She was in a robe and I saw a night-shirt under it and Paul was dressed, or as dressed as he'd be to leave - sweats and a t-shirt. Coffee and tea was there and some breakfast stuff was still in the oven too. It was very awkward - at first until Sue said " you guys are going to have to get used to each other sooner or later ". And that was all she said. But I think Paul is like me in many ways - not cuckold stuff - but yes in terms of being uncomfortable in sexual situations like these and about it in general. We repeated a lot of the conversation from the night before about skiing and lack of snow and all that. When I had a moment alone with Sue while made a call on his phone I asked her if I should stay or leave them alone for a bit - it was all kind of weird getting up so late. She said I should stay and that he was leaving pretty soon - and when he came back from his call he was ready to say goodbye and that he'd gotten some golf-time setup.
After he left - Sue and I started to talk - and talk we did. She wanted to know if I had enjoyed her "taking charge" and when I said I did she said that it was kind of fun for her and that it took her a lot to try to make it work for me and for her. She asked me how I felt about being there when they were getting started. I told her that it was really amazing to be there as he pulled her panties off and she looked at me and said "really? OMG" and she said that she had thought I was enjoying it and that it was one of the first times that she said she loved how it felt to have me looking at her as she gave herself to him like that. She looked at me and said that knowing I was next to her as she spread her legs for her lover really meant a lot to her and that now that we'd done it and she'd finally let herself get into the role all the way - that she giggled and said that she "wished we'd talked sooner". She asked me again if I really did like being with her - even though she knew the answer she was like a little kid in a way wanting to hear it over and over. So I told her.
Now it wasn't even noon yet but the more we talked the more she giggled and eventually we moved into the living room where she sat on my lap turned to face me and she teased me if I "liked your naughty wife?". I told her she could feel my answer and she turned to be facing me more and she opened her robe and I could see her hard nipples. She giggled and I asked her - pretty openly - "didn't he give you enough already?" and she giggled even more and said "oh yeah, for sure, but... maybe one more...." and she kissed me in a way that left me no doubt. I sort of picked her up and she giggled even more but I carried her to the steps and then I chased after her up into our bedroom. The bed was a mess but she lay back on it and I jumped on top of her and it wasn't long before we were both naked.
We kissed and she let my hands go over her body just like the night before and yes, in her pussy where she felt very wet. I pulled back from the kiss and just said "this morning?" and she smiled and giggled and pulled me back to her. We kissed and played and she stroked my cock and teased me "aww, do you need to cum tooo?" as if she were talking to it. I pushed her back and she lay back and let her legs spread apart and I looked and she saw me looking and she said "I only have a little left in me, you can lick me if you want but you can fuck me too if you want".
I was horny from the night before so there wasn't a doubt in my mind and I climbed over her and got between her legs an at the last moment I looked up at her and as I saw her face I realized what she wanted. I leaned over, opened the drawer and pulled out a condom. I did look back up at her as I put it on and the look on her face had changed to this huge smile.
She told me later on that she loves the feelings she had with me that morning.
And she has now also admitted that it was fun to push my buttons as she did and she admitted to going a little overboard in there. But it wasn't like a movie-scene where they were next to each other or really tucked in - just sort of lying there - it is a big bed.
It surprised me that she turned to me and then rolled over to me and hugged and kissed me and told me she loved me. She didn't resist when I ran my hands down her body and felt her nakedness - she later told me she knew from how I looked at her just then that she liked what she'd setup for the night. She even let me put my fingers in her pussy and feel the warmth still in there. She pulled me close before I pulled my fingers out and the she reached down and guided my hand up and made me kiss her as we both licked off my finger. Another moment she remembered and reminded me of afterwards too.
I was still not sure what was going on but then she leaned over, kissed me again and then said out loud "you can stay as long as you want to". And then, yes, it was a scene from a movie. She giggled and went under the covers and I could see her lay against his leg under the covers and then it was obvious she was sucking his cock. Paul turned to look at me and I said "it's okay, enjoy her" and with that, I slid out of the bed, grabbed some extra clothes (t-shirt and socks) and my phone and I left them in the bed. She had come up from under the cover - I guess when she felt me moving maybe - but she didn't turn to look at me and when I stopped at the bedroom door she was lying on him kissing him.
My cock was hard again seeing them but at the same time, I did want to save myself some enjoyment with her after he left. But I will also say that lying in the bed in our office/spare-bedroom and thinking of how I left them was just incredibly exciting. My cock was so hard and I just lay there thinking about what they were doing that I'd just touch it a bit and keep it hard until I dozed off myself.
I was annoyed that they'd let me sleep in on Sunday morning and I missed them getting ready together - I told Sue that too - she knew it but I told her anyway that it turned me on. She giggled and said "okay, then I'll make sure you're there next time" and giggled some more - but that was after he'd left. Instead I came in to both of them sitting at the kitchen table. She was in a robe and I saw a night-shirt under it and Paul was dressed, or as dressed as he'd be to leave - sweats and a t-shirt. Coffee and tea was there and some breakfast stuff was still in the oven too. It was very awkward - at first until Sue said " you guys are going to have to get used to each other sooner or later ". And that was all she said. But I think Paul is like me in many ways - not cuckold stuff - but yes in terms of being uncomfortable in sexual situations like these and about it in general. We repeated a lot of the conversation from the night before about skiing and lack of snow and all that. When I had a moment alone with Sue while made a call on his phone I asked her if I should stay or leave them alone for a bit - it was all kind of weird getting up so late. She said I should stay and that he was leaving pretty soon - and when he came back from his call he was ready to say goodbye and that he'd gotten some golf-time setup.
After he left - Sue and I started to talk - and talk we did. She wanted to know if I had enjoyed her "taking charge" and when I said I did she said that it was kind of fun for her and that it took her a lot to try to make it work for me and for her. She asked me how I felt about being there when they were getting started. I told her that it was really amazing to be there as he pulled her panties off and she looked at me and said "really? OMG" and she said that she had thought I was enjoying it and that it was one of the first times that she said she loved how it felt to have me looking at her as she gave herself to him like that. She looked at me and said that knowing I was next to her as she spread her legs for her lover really meant a lot to her and that now that we'd done it and she'd finally let herself get into the role all the way - that she giggled and said that she "wished we'd talked sooner". She asked me again if I really did like being with her - even though she knew the answer she was like a little kid in a way wanting to hear it over and over. So I told her.
Now it wasn't even noon yet but the more we talked the more she giggled and eventually we moved into the living room where she sat on my lap turned to face me and she teased me if I "liked your naughty wife?". I told her she could feel my answer and she turned to be facing me more and she opened her robe and I could see her hard nipples. She giggled and I asked her - pretty openly - "didn't he give you enough already?" and she giggled even more and said "oh yeah, for sure, but... maybe one more...." and she kissed me in a way that left me no doubt. I sort of picked her up and she giggled even more but I carried her to the steps and then I chased after her up into our bedroom. The bed was a mess but she lay back on it and I jumped on top of her and it wasn't long before we were both naked.
We kissed and she let my hands go over her body just like the night before and yes, in her pussy where she felt very wet. I pulled back from the kiss and just said "this morning?" and she smiled and giggled and pulled me back to her. We kissed and played and she stroked my cock and teased me "aww, do you need to cum tooo?" as if she were talking to it. I pushed her back and she lay back and let her legs spread apart and I looked and she saw me looking and she said "I only have a little left in me, you can lick me if you want but you can fuck me too if you want".
I was horny from the night before so there wasn't a doubt in my mind and I climbed over her and got between her legs an at the last moment I looked up at her and as I saw her face I realized what she wanted. I leaned over, opened the drawer and pulled out a condom. I did look back up at her as I put it on and the look on her face had changed to this huge smile.
She told me later on that she loves the feelings she had with me that morning.
Squirm - again, it seems so sudden in some ways, but in others, and seeing how she is doing and enjoying makes me believe she's been conflicted on what would be best for us and how to approach it.
Our daughter is home this week so that was also part of why she'd put more emphasis on the weekend. I told her last night that I enjoyed the extreme she presented me with - an intense weekend where I was faced with her essentially being Pauls - but then her, perhaps as a pity-fuck but I didn't think so nor say it to her, offering herself to me as she did so excitedly on Sunday - well, I told her it was totally intense.
She asked me if it made me feel the way I'd wanted and I had to tell her that it was probably the best and most excited I'd felt about the 3 of us in a long long time. As I masturbated and we talked more last night she asked me how it was for me to use a condom with her on Sunday and she said she hoped I understood that while we had a lot of sex without one, that she very much still wanted to restrict and deny me that way. She giggled at just how turned on I was and how pre-cum was gushing from my cock as we talked. She told me that she knows that it is something that really turns me on and that it made her feel wonderful that I was still into that part of what we'd been doing and she openly admitted to me - in a hugely teasing way that "you still aren't going to cum in me much baby" and explained that she had felt a lot of arousal at all of this on Saturday and then again on Sunday when she felt me in her with the condom on again. She said that it feels secure and that she likes how it is something that is now very specific about what I will not get to have with her until she says so.
I asked her how Paul was about everything and she giggled and said "he'll do anything I ask if we keep having sex together" and how he had even told her that it felt better to him that I was a little more involved with her when he's with her.
When she knew I was close - she again went back to Saturday and she told me again how amazing she said she felt when he slid her panties off and she knew I was next to her watching as she spread her legs for him. I told her that I'd never really seen it from her specific point of view and I told her that I hadn't realized how much of her pussy she could see as he fucked her. She said that me being next to her as she did that really turned her on and she wanted to know how I felt. I told her that it was, for me, something that so turned me on. I told her that I loved to see - and from her hand and being next to her - to feel how she says she feels when she does that. As I was stroking away and getting closer and closer I told her how erotic it was watching him push into her and how erotic it looked from where I was watching from. And, just as I was about to cum I told her that her asking and telling me that he was about to cum in her was probalby the most intense moment for me in a long long time. She giggled and as she said something about how intimate she felt with him - that was all I needed and I felt myself cum and cum and cum. She squealed as I stroked myself and then leaned over to me and kissed me and said she loved me and loved sharing "all this" with her.
I had to giggle at the time as I didn't know if "all this" meant all of her and Paul and everything or if "all this" meant the huge load of cum all over my stomach. And as she scooped it all up and played with it and let me lick it off her fingers I realized it meant both.
It turns out our kids won't overlap being home so Sue will likely have some time with Paul on Saturday again, but likely at his place this time but as of now, no overnight. Not yet at least.
Our daughter is home this week so that was also part of why she'd put more emphasis on the weekend. I told her last night that I enjoyed the extreme she presented me with - an intense weekend where I was faced with her essentially being Pauls - but then her, perhaps as a pity-fuck but I didn't think so nor say it to her, offering herself to me as she did so excitedly on Sunday - well, I told her it was totally intense.
She asked me if it made me feel the way I'd wanted and I had to tell her that it was probably the best and most excited I'd felt about the 3 of us in a long long time. As I masturbated and we talked more last night she asked me how it was for me to use a condom with her on Sunday and she said she hoped I understood that while we had a lot of sex without one, that she very much still wanted to restrict and deny me that way. She giggled at just how turned on I was and how pre-cum was gushing from my cock as we talked. She told me that she knows that it is something that really turns me on and that it made her feel wonderful that I was still into that part of what we'd been doing and she openly admitted to me - in a hugely teasing way that "you still aren't going to cum in me much baby" and explained that she had felt a lot of arousal at all of this on Saturday and then again on Sunday when she felt me in her with the condom on again. She said that it feels secure and that she likes how it is something that is now very specific about what I will not get to have with her until she says so.
I asked her how Paul was about everything and she giggled and said "he'll do anything I ask if we keep having sex together" and how he had even told her that it felt better to him that I was a little more involved with her when he's with her.
When she knew I was close - she again went back to Saturday and she told me again how amazing she said she felt when he slid her panties off and she knew I was next to her watching as she spread her legs for him. I told her that I'd never really seen it from her specific point of view and I told her that I hadn't realized how much of her pussy she could see as he fucked her. She said that me being next to her as she did that really turned her on and she wanted to know how I felt. I told her that it was, for me, something that so turned me on. I told her that I loved to see - and from her hand and being next to her - to feel how she says she feels when she does that. As I was stroking away and getting closer and closer I told her how erotic it was watching him push into her and how erotic it looked from where I was watching from. And, just as I was about to cum I told her that her asking and telling me that he was about to cum in her was probalby the most intense moment for me in a long long time. She giggled and as she said something about how intimate she felt with him - that was all I needed and I felt myself cum and cum and cum. She squealed as I stroked myself and then leaned over to me and kissed me and said she loved me and loved sharing "all this" with her.
I had to giggle at the time as I didn't know if "all this" meant all of her and Paul and everything or if "all this" meant the huge load of cum all over my stomach. And as she scooped it all up and played with it and let me lick it off her fingers I realized it meant both.
It turns out our kids won't overlap being home so Sue will likely have some time with Paul on Saturday again, but likely at his place this time but as of now, no overnight. Not yet at least.
Steve,
Overall, a remarkable turnaround from the position of just a few weeks ago. Clearly a lot went on behind the scenes here which remains private (and why not), but you both seem to be happy / stable again. I just knew the bareback connections would help that, even if they are infrequent. It means so much to both of you for different reasons. Not to be overlooked again I hope.
Don't forget after your last bareback last year, Sue made similar promises of regular reconnection weekends away or otherwise. For whatever reason, they never appeared again and the slow descent into separation of the souls started with increasing friction until the events after the fateful skiing weekend.
It now seems increasingly clear that Paul is not himself a threat and never was. It was your personalities and perhaps your relative inexperience within your newly minted Alpha / Beta roles that got you where you were and communication, particularly you finally expressing a limit, that got you moving back together again. I hope you continue to grow back together as the months go forward. It's good to see and thanks for continuing to document it.
Overall, a remarkable turnaround from the position of just a few weeks ago. Clearly a lot went on behind the scenes here which remains private (and why not), but you both seem to be happy / stable again. I just knew the bareback connections would help that, even if they are infrequent. It means so much to both of you for different reasons. Not to be overlooked again I hope.
Don't forget after your last bareback last year, Sue made similar promises of regular reconnection weekends away or otherwise. For whatever reason, they never appeared again and the slow descent into separation of the souls started with increasing friction until the events after the fateful skiing weekend.
It now seems increasingly clear that Paul is not himself a threat and never was. It was your personalities and perhaps your relative inexperience within your newly minted Alpha / Beta roles that got you where you were and communication, particularly you finally expressing a limit, that got you moving back together again. I hope you continue to grow back together as the months go forward. It's good to see and thanks for continuing to document it.
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Peak - what went on was a lot of honesty on both of our parts. And from both of us, over several bottles of wine over several days.
The ski weekend surely did change things - I know that it was partly that it was so one-sided and that was something Sue had felt too. Even before that - when they were here, I know they like their privacy but I think she was hesitant to, I guess, take control more as she seems to have. it's a little unnerving as her confidence is increasing all the time - but it feels really good. She is sharing more with me, whether physically or just visually, I know I felt a lot more from her holding my hand too. In a way, it's something I think I wanted without realizing it either. I get the most intense feelings when I felt her hand tighten around mine as he licked her or whatever.
I really felt too that I don't even mind the sex at all - it's been a long time that I think I finally may have shed a few of the lingering male-inadequacy feelings, which was something Sue and I had talked about when she really tried to push me to explain how it turns me on to see her with Paul. All I could still come back to on that was that it's her giving that to him and not me, just how it made me feel inside.
Anyway - with regards to the next time bareback in her - I know this will sound strange but as long as we are as we are now or stay in that mode - whether I am there or not in the future and participate or not in the future - it feels like something has changed and that in and of itself is reallly exciting. I know it really turned me on that it had been so long since I'd cum in her. It's a little weird to have even thought that I may have regretted giving in and not waiting longer. That only Paul had her that way for so long is just something that just so turns me on.
The ski weekend surely did change things - I know that it was partly that it was so one-sided and that was something Sue had felt too. Even before that - when they were here, I know they like their privacy but I think she was hesitant to, I guess, take control more as she seems to have. it's a little unnerving as her confidence is increasing all the time - but it feels really good. She is sharing more with me, whether physically or just visually, I know I felt a lot more from her holding my hand too. In a way, it's something I think I wanted without realizing it either. I get the most intense feelings when I felt her hand tighten around mine as he licked her or whatever.
I really felt too that I don't even mind the sex at all - it's been a long time that I think I finally may have shed a few of the lingering male-inadequacy feelings, which was something Sue and I had talked about when she really tried to push me to explain how it turns me on to see her with Paul. All I could still come back to on that was that it's her giving that to him and not me, just how it made me feel inside.
Anyway - with regards to the next time bareback in her - I know this will sound strange but as long as we are as we are now or stay in that mode - whether I am there or not in the future and participate or not in the future - it feels like something has changed and that in and of itself is reallly exciting. I know it really turned me on that it had been so long since I'd cum in her. It's a little weird to have even thought that I may have regretted giving in and not waiting longer. That only Paul had her that way for so long is just something that just so turns me on.
Steve,
You really are incorrigible with respect to your desires on the condom use records. It's a good job Sue is now in charge of deciding when the next time is because it seems if you were it might never happen. The very fact that you hold bareback penetration in such reverence shows how much emotionally you still have invested in its power for you. Sue holds similar views but it appears from a different starting perspective. For her, the control is more the button it pushes. However it still holds true that for both of you it remains a powerful connection. One that you might only need to use sparingly but probably more than every eight months. You may say you didn't need it but its use recently with other measures has certainly settled the ship and will do so again. That Sue wanted it has done wonders for your reassurance of your worth to her. That you embraced it when it happened has done wonders for her knowledge that deep down you still want her in this way. Don't discount the power of this simple act. It did things that words by themselves can't do - important as they too are.
The progression I can see if Sue carries on in her current direction is that in order to continue to get her super highs from sex with Paul as she goes forward she might have to get him to wear condoms sometimes in order to make some of their encounters extra special without them. Now that would be a twist! If he really is hooked, he might even go along with it too.
You really are incorrigible with respect to your desires on the condom use records. It's a good job Sue is now in charge of deciding when the next time is because it seems if you were it might never happen. The very fact that you hold bareback penetration in such reverence shows how much emotionally you still have invested in its power for you. Sue holds similar views but it appears from a different starting perspective. For her, the control is more the button it pushes. However it still holds true that for both of you it remains a powerful connection. One that you might only need to use sparingly but probably more than every eight months. You may say you didn't need it but its use recently with other measures has certainly settled the ship and will do so again. That Sue wanted it has done wonders for your reassurance of your worth to her. That you embraced it when it happened has done wonders for her knowledge that deep down you still want her in this way. Don't discount the power of this simple act. It did things that words by themselves can't do - important as they too are.
The progression I can see if Sue carries on in her current direction is that in order to continue to get her super highs from sex with Paul as she goes forward she might have to get him to wear condoms sometimes in order to make some of their encounters extra special without them. Now that would be a twist! If he really is hooked, he might even go along with it too.
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