Is This The Start Or The End?

[2wheel]

Damn, you're riding a real emotional rollercoaster!
Makes me grateful mine remains pretty constant, don't know how I could handle it if she went through the kind of changes yours does, especially with that sort of frequency.

Best wishes for regaining "Option B" as soon as possible with added benefits!

Thanks. I call it whiplash, roller coasters have smooth transitions. You don't know the half of it. I don't wish this on my enemy.

I'm sure Option B will be again be the order of the day as soon as CV19 has passed. As an aside "They say you don't know what you have until it's gone." How true, I never thought I'd say how much I miss watching her get fucked by someone else.

 

[2wheel]

Life in the time of Covid19
Monday 5/25
This is the 1st update in 3 weeks. The gated community we live is still under lockdown for all indoor amenities and just started to open up outdoor amenities: baseball, pools, bocce, tennis, pickle ball, etc., with page of rules. We continue to be in what I call "self-imposed house arrest". We're both seniors, that puts us in the high risk category and HWR has medical issues that put her at extreme high risk. So we're not taking any chances. We haven't been to a restaurant since mid-march nor into a supermarket since then either. All groceries are purchased from supermarkets that have curbside pickup, I order on-line and they put it in the trunk, when I unload I spray everything with hydrogen peroxide and let it sit for more than the 1 minute prescribed time (these are CDC recommendations). We have cancelled all non-critical medical appointments seeing only a single doctor monthly for her to get her pain medication scrips, the MD insists upon seeing her, he meets us in the parking lot and slides the scrips through a partially open car window.

Of course this has taken a toll on HWR's hotwifing activities. We've had zero contact with anyone else. She's been masturbating numerous times a day trying to cope with the PGAD she has. As she says it's satisfying but it still not the real thing, no closeness, no warm breath, no cum. But it'll have to do. When CV19 1st started it was shortly after a failed GB and she was talking about trying it again.

She says she been in contact with her 2 regulars, Mr. commuter & the bartender.

Mr. Commuter wants her to break our rule and have him here, he says he has plenty of time since his place of business is temporarily shuttered with no reopen date yet. He says he doesn't know about a mulligan on the GB, that a lot of guys were pissed at him and now he doesn't even know if they'll be back to work, so it's gonna take a very very back burner.

The bartender is also out if work and he's not sure he'll even remain in the area, if Hilton Head doesn't return to the vacation spot it was he'll move on. He says he's not moving now cause all other locales are also in 'lockdown'. He didn't ask for a visit but HWR did tell him that she's not entertaining anyone right now, he said that he understood and it was a smart decision.

The side benefit for me is that masturbation hasn't been enough for her as she's started to 'make moves on me'. Last week twice. All at her initiation, Tuesday 5/11 4:15am produced 7 orgasms for her all toy driven we both steered. It was a very good morning.

Saturday 5/16 10:15am was a good morning as well, Only 2 orgasms for her. #2 was after I had cum on her pussy and licked it all off. Then she tried herself watching me as I used Big John and got myself off a 2nd time, hell, that hasn't happened in ages, she couldn't cum again that she was done for now.

Tuesday 5/19 she told me to use her fave dildo on her as she used Big John while I jerk off. 5 orgasms for her, none for me.

Friday 5/22 she told me watch her masturbate and use my own Magic Wand. She had 4 orgasms I had 1, she continued after I was done, telling me she'd call me if she needed me again. I went into the great room to watch TV & wait, she rolled out about 30 minutes later

My favorite restaurant has closed for good thanks to CV19, The Golden Corral, a great buffet. I mused to HWR that this might be the end of buffet and cafeteria style dining. She added that it might also be the end of hotwifing. Mr. commuter is DOA, his work is closed so any leads from there are DOA, the bartender is DOA, the college is closed so that's also DOA. And to add insult to injury Gayle said they were thinking of relocating closer to their daughter and new grandchild.

In a nut shell she's not happy and the idea of not seeming another guy fuck NY beloved wife is a real downer. Yeah I'm gettin' some from her but miss being a bystander watching her fuck.

 

[willsrv]

Glad to hear that HWR is including you more often and trying different things with you as well.

It's definitely a shame how this Covid crap is affecting everyone's lives and all of the changes it is causing.
You're right about the demise of cafeteria style dining, as well as other high volume businesses that use similar "pack 'em in" style platforms: movie theaters, concert halls, airlines, etc. Of course, having the food ******* buffet style is their main concern, but can you imagine going back to sitting shoulder to shoulder and having only a couple feet from front to back with strangers for hours wearing masks just to see a movie?
Breathing recycled air for hours in a can 30,000 feet high hearing some guy in the back coughing and sneezing?

Somebody in HVAC that comes up with a way to purify the air of all viral and bacterial substances in rapid, high volume air exchange systems is going to be making some good coin on the patents. They already have systems in the casino's in Vegas that suck the air out and get rid of the cigarette smoke, so maybe it won't be too long for that to happen.

Too bad about the bartender, Mr Commuter and Gayle. Hopefully, at least one of the guys (Gayle never did much for you anyway) will still be around, but even if not, maybe one or more of the guys they brought over or even some of the college kids might get in touch with you when they think it's safe enough and want to get rid of all the cum they've been stockpiling all these months.
Otherwise, I guess you'll have to advertise on Double List and/or other venues. Fortunately, a discrete married couple offering free pussy is always a more popular commodity compared to a single guy trying to find some nsa pussy.

Best of luck getting her what she needs and you desire.

 

[2wheel]

Glad to hear that HWR is including you more often and trying different things with you as well.

It's definitely a shame how this Covid crap is affecting everyone's lives and all of the changes it is causing.
You're right about the demise of cafeteria style dining, as well as other high volume businesses that use similar "pack 'em in" style platforms: movie theaters, concert halls, airlines, etc. Of course, having the food ******* buffet style is their main concern, but can you imagine going back to sitting shoulder to shoulder and having only a couple feet from front to back with strangers for hours wearing masks just to see a movie?
Breathing recycled air for hours in a can 30,000 feet high hearing some guy in the back coughing and sneezing?

Somebody in HVAC that comes up with a way to purify the air of all viral and bacterial substances in rapid, high volume air exchange systems is going to be making some good coin on the patents. They already have systems in the casino's in Vegas that suck the air out and get rid of the cigarette smoke, so maybe it won't be too long for that to happen.

Too bad about the bartender, Mr Commuter and Gayle. Hopefully, at least one of the guys (Gayle never did much for you anyway) will still be around, but even if not, maybe one or more of the guys they brought over or even some of the college kids might get in touch with you when they think it's safe enough and want to get rid of all the cum they've been stockpiling all these months.
Otherwise, I guess you'll have to advertise on Double List and/or other venues. Fortunately, a discrete married couple offering free pussy is always a more popular commodity compared to a single guy trying to find some nsa pussy.

Best of luck getting her what she needs and you desire.

I think the issue is breath and proximity as there hasn't been a great deal of transmission via objects.

I can tell you she's in a somewhat depressed state right now. It's like biorhythm when all axis cross paths at the same time at a low point.

Yeah, I am the recipient, but in reality I'm not sure which I prefer more: watching her have sex with others OR having sex with me. It is very very addictive. I feel just as deprived as she does or should I say depraved. LOL!

There's an old movie, The War Of The Worlds (1953), Martians invade the Earth, we can't beat them, last line of move as the Martians fall dead: "The Martians had no resistance to the bacteria in our atmosphere to which we have long since become immune. Once they had breathed our air, germs, which no longer affect us, began to kill them. The end came swiftly. All over the world, their machines began to stop and fall. After all that men could do had failed, the Martians were destroyed and humanity was saved by the littlest things, which God, in His wisdom, had put upon this Earth." (Disclaimer, I don't believe in God.)

If we feel helpless, we should. Only time will dictate all our futures.

 

[Custer Laststand]

(Disclaimer, I don't believe in God.)

That's OK. Believing in God is the adult version of believing in Santa Claus.

If we feel helpless, we should. Only time will dictate all our futures.

Good observation.

 

[2wheel]

Thank you Custer. always a pleasure to hear from you.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Thank you Custer. always a pleasure to hear from you.

Thanks 2wheel.

In other news: the tragic murder (lynching, in effect) of Mr. Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed black man who, while out jogging in the Santilla Shores neighborhood just outside of Brunswick, Georgia, U.S.A., was chased down by 3 three white men in two vehicles — then killed with three (3) shotgun blasts by Travis McMichael, who was heard uttering a racial slur afterwards— occurred in your neck of the woods, I gather (broadly speaking).

Now that the U.S. is convulsed with protests and demonstrations that have spread to other countries (10 days now) caused by the brutal, slow murder of Mr. George Floyd, a black man in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S.A., by 4 white police officers, in front of protesting onlookers with smart phones they used to film the whole ghastly murder, the shooting (i.e., lynching) of Mr. Ahmaud Arbery is gaining increased attention — as it should.

I hope that did not occur in your neighborhood.

Details can be found, for instance, here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/us/ahmaud-arbery-murder-hearing.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

(The New York Times allows non-subscribers to read "n" articles per month, where "n" is greater than 1.)

—Custer

 

[SquirmingSub]

@Custer Laststand -- We have been following the news here in Georgia, lot of crazy stuff going on in our Country! Unfortunately, there is violence everywhere and it rarely makes the national news cycle. I am all for supporting legimate and legal protesting although the rioting has gone beyond protesting and does not support the core issue that were associated with the respective protest. We need to allow the judicial system to do its job and put a stop to the rioting.

 

[Custer Laststand]

We need to allow the judicial system to do its job and put a stop to the rioting.

That's optimistic. The judicial system virtually never "does its job" prosecuting police officers who kill unarmed black men and women. Consider another recent case. On 13 March 2020 a black woman — Ms. Breonna Taylor, 26, an EMT who wanted to be a nurse; she was an essential worker who was providing health care to covid-19 patients — was shot to death by the police while she was in bed with her boyfriend, in her own apartment, in Louisville, Kentucky, USA, after the police broke down her door with a battering ram (because they had a "no knock" search warrant). Neither she nor her boyfriend had committed any crime. The police did not find the "evidence" they were looking for. There was no justification for a search warrant, let alone a "no knock" search warrant.

When was the last time you heard of a white — or any other color — police officer being convicted for killing an unarmed black man or woman? If your answer is "you can't think of any," it's in large part because of a (now fairly long-standing) U.S. Supreme Court decision that confers "qualified immunity" — which in practice has meant "complete immunity" — from prosecution if a police officer kills someone while the officer is on duty.

 

[SquirmingSub]

That's optimistic. The judicial system virtually never "does its job" prosecuting police officers who kill unarmed black men and women. Consider another recent case. On 13 March 2020 a black woman — Ms. Breonna Taylor, 26, an EMT who wanted to be a nurse; she was an essential worker who was providing health care to covid-19 patients — was shot to death by the police while she was in bed with her boyfriend, in her own apartment, in Louisville, Kentucky, USA, after the police broke down her door with a battering ram (because they had a "no knock" warrant). Neither she nor her boyfriend had committed any crime. The police did not find the "evidence" they were looking for, and there was no justification for the warrant.

When was the last time you heard of a white — or any other color — police officer being convicted for killing an unarmed black man or woman? If your answer is "you can't think of any," it's in large part because of a (now fairly long-standing) U.S. Supreme Court decision that confers "partial immunity" — which in practice has meant "complete immunity" — from prosecution if a police officer kills someone while he or she is on duty.

I am actually a realist as opposed to an optimist. Unfortunately we have experienced issues in GA were officers have gone into homes with a warrant based on a so-called snitch that pointed out the wrong house (drug bust) which resulted in the death of homeowners when they attempted to defend their own home. Cops were Black and White, snitch was black. So I get your point although it also happens to multiple races. I am supportive of those that protest although I find those that riot to be crossing the line as they are then committing crimes against others that are not associated with the alledged over reach by a select number of police in our society.

 

[Custer Laststand]

I am actually a realist as opposed to an optimist. Unfortunately we have experienced issues in GA were officers have gone into homes with a warrant based on a so-called snitch that pointed out the wrong house (drug bust) which resulted in the death of homeowners when they attempted to defend their own home. Cops were Black and White, snitch was black. So I get your point although it also happens to multiple races. I am supportive of those that protest although I find those that riot to be crossing the line as they are then committing crimes against others that are not associated with the alledged over reach by a select number of police in our society.

Yes, I see your point. Neither I nor anyone else I know of attempts to argue that police are not necessary to maintain a civilized society. In addition to being necessary, the work police officers do is highly stressful and dangerous. But, the problems that are at the root of the nationwide protests now in progress (late May / early June 2020) are real and severe. For more on the point I raised (above), see:

“How the Supreme Court Lets Cops Get Away With Murder”

“The courts protected police abuses for years before George Floyd’s death. It’s time to rethink ‘qualified immunity.’ “

By the Editorial Board

May 29, 2020, New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/opinion/Minneapolis-police-George-Floyd.html

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[SquirmingSub]

@Custer Laststand -- Yes police officers have ‘qualified immunity’ which not only limits what can be done to a police officer, it also limits the liability of the local governments that they work for. I believe that the local government should be responsible for what they employee(s) aka police officers do while on duty. With that said, we should also take into account the incident that resulting in the police being engaged to begin with and the ramifications of the entire scenario. No alleged crime should result in the per-mature death of someone in custody although maybe we should also evaluate crimes vs punishments also.

 

[Custer Laststand]

@Custer Laststand -- Yes police officers have ‘qualified immunity’ which not only limits what can be done to a police officer, it also limits the liability of the local governments that they work for. I believe that the local government should be responsible for what they employee(s) aka police officers do while on duty. With that said, we should also take into account the incident that resulting in the police being engaged to begin with and the ramifications of the entire scenario. No alleged crime should result in the per-mature death of someone in custody although maybe we should also evaluate crimes vs punishments also.

I'll leave it at this, since the purpose of this forum is not to debate police practices.

I'll close, however, by noting there is a very egregious example, in the town I live in, of what you're talking about. After a brutal murder, several (then) young men were arrested, tried, and convicted, despite there being no evidence they were guilty. It resulted in destruction of their lives— although, on the plus side, they are still alive. Neither the police detective who was mainly responsible for that severe injustice (he's now retired), nor the town that employed him, have ever been held responsible — even though, decades later, the innocent men eventually won their false-imprisonment cases in court.

 

[2wheel]

As a young man I was caught red-handed committing a felony. However law enforcement wanted a confession. They beat it out of me, LITERALLY!

When my father saw me all bruised in lockup the following day he said I deserved it. But he also believed in corporal punishment.

Everyone, EVERYONE needs to be held accountable for their actions. NO IFS - NO ANDS - NO BUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone in this country that thinks that things are fair and work as they should is living in a fantasy world.

 

[SquirmingSub]

As a young man I was caught red-handed committing a felony. However law enforcement wanted a confession. They beat it out of me, LITERALLY!

When my father saw me all bruised in lockup the following day he said I deserved it. But he also believed in corporal punishment.

Everyone, EVERYONE needs to be held accountable for their actions. NO IFS - NO ANDS - NO BUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone in this country that thinks that things are fair and work as they should is living in a fantasy world.

At the core, you and I are in agreement. Everyone should understand that there will be consequensces for their actions at some point. Your right, it is not always fair and it does not always work the way it should.

 

[Custer Laststand]

At the core, you [2wheel] and I are in agreement. Everyone should understand that there will be consequensces for their actions at some point. You're right, it is not always fair and it does not always work the way it should.

Both this, and 2wheel's statement (no. 417, above), appear to be '"strong statements" that are meaningless, because there's no indication who you are talking about.

 

[SquirmingSub]

Both this, and 2wheel's statement (no. 417, above), appear to be '"strong statements" that are meaningless, because there's no indication who you are talking about.

Both this, and 2wheel's statement (no. 417, above), appear to be '"strong statements" that are meaningless, because there's no indication who you are talking about.

@Custer Laststand - the remarks were an exchange in an open forum and when you follow the exchanges it makes since. The reality is, this is not the type of forum for exchanges to take place that are not on topic and a number of us have been guilty of at times over sharing in areas that are off-topic. I was simply agreeing with '2wheel' in that everyone should understand that there will be consequences for their actions at some point. Also in the fact that it is not always fair and it (legal system) does not always work the way it should. 2wheel was also simply expressing at a high level something that happened to him as a young man.

The FACT is, that while some in our society complain about things and make themselves out to be the victim. We have others in society that put on their big girl/boy pants and accept the fact that we have consequences for our actions. This same can be applied to current news cycle and the our various lifestyles of choice.

Many people believe in corporal punishment and it is a thing that is needed for some people to embrace society with civility.
As noted by 2wheel, "Everyone, EVERYONE needs to be held accountable for their actions. NO IFS - NO ANDS - NO BUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
As noted by 2wheel, "Anyone in this country that thinks that things are fair and work as they should is living in a fantasy world."

I am not going to attempt to explain this beyond what has been said in our respective post.

 

[2wheel]

Both this, and 2wheel's statement (no. 417, above), appear to be '"strong statements" that are meaningless, because there's no indication who you are talking about.

This isn't the forum for this but in response.
Which part of EVERYONE did you not understand?
I did wrong I needed to be held accountable.
Law enforcement did wrong they needed to be held accountable.
FAST FORWARD
Protestors that do not break the law need no accountability.
Rioters, looters need to be held accountable.
Law enforcement needs to be held accountable ALL the time. They are public employees, public servants, they need be continuously evaluated when they do wrong as well as when they do right. They need to be held to a higher standard, they are role models. Their job is to protect and serve, nowhere in the credo is the word punish. When they inflict punishment they have done wrong and need to be held accountable.

Law enforcement has been treated above the law. If you choked someone to death you'd be behind bars, but law enforcement gets a free pass. EVEN when there's irrefutable evidence. As a general rule they get fired, FIRED, then move on to another police department free to do it again.

Ever get a summons, speeding. You stand in court and need to prove yourself innocent, forget the Bill of Rights. The cop presents his case, the Judge always gives him the benefit of the doubt, you're guilty, now you need to prove yourself innocent.

Since law enforcement gets the benefit of the doubt this in and of itself is another reason why they need to be held to a higher standard.

Nuff said let's move on to the good stuff.

 

[2wheel]

Thursday 6/12 Lockdown is a bitch. But HWR has been more interested in me, perhaps desperation perhaps, mercy, really doesn't matter I've been enjoying the attention. But will it end when she back fucking another guys, it's only a matter time of, and only time will tell.

Saturday morning after her 4am meds she reached over and grabbed my dick then took Big John and got herself off. She used Big John on me as she rubbed herself, telling me "I want us to cum together". I told "not if she keeps doing that". In a few minutes I told her that I was close, if she continues I'll cum. She stopped and went back to herself, she must have been on the verge as she had a 2nd orgasm in seconds, literally. She removed Big John for a few minutes and went back to her clit telling me to kiss her. I did as instructed and she had a convulsive 3rd orgasm. I thought she suck my tongue out of my head. When it was over she when back to work on my cock with Big John, while rubbing herself with her free hand. A few minutes and I told her I was again close, she told me to cum, as always, I complied. She put Big John back on her clit and told me that she wanted to lick up my cum. If you've been following this thread you know that after a TURP I was rarely ejaculating and when I did it was meager at best. That has changed slightly I ejaculate all the time again but the loads are still small. I re-positioned myself and she licked the small load off my abdomen and sucked my dick until she had another orgasm.

Being a hotwife husband I have no issues with her and other men. But being the shit that I am I had the opportunity to look through her cell phone and took complete advantage. This was the only thing I found. She generally doesn't let it out of her sight so I seized the opportunity and I took a while to get these screen shots and get rid of the trail. But her it is, thought you'd be interested.

 

[2wheel]

We're still in 'self-imposed house arrest' and HWR is remaining on her masturbation tour, 5-8 times a day. Occasionally she does use me but it doesn't include fucking, not that we don't want to I can't get hard enough to enter her. So I'm relegated to oral and toys. However, something is better than nothing but it does feel like pity.

If you've been following this thread you know we live in a senior community. It's a gated community of about 8500 rooftops consisting of 'neighborhoods' geographically defined. Our neighborhood is about 100 rooftops. We are the 1st house in the neighborhood which is good as we've found that seniors, especially senior women are nosey, catty, cliquish & gossipy. So being the 1st house few know the goings on of our life. The neighbor across the street has owns 3 homes so they're here about 3-4 months year. Our neighbor next-door has 2 homes, there also snowbirds residing here about 5-6 months a year. Beyond that I barely know anyone else's name though they know me due to my high profile community involvement.

Houses here are fairly close, our house is so situated that we are far apart from in the front, only next-door neighbor but very narrow at the rear. Every morning I'm out back watering some plants we have on the rear patio. Yesterday I hear a voice calling me by name. It took few minutes to determine where it was coming from.

ME: "Hello who is it, where are you?"
NDN: "Good morning, I'm over here."
ME: "Hi, sorry didn't see you behind the bushes."
NDN: "How are you & the misses?"
ME: "We're good, staying safe. And you & yours?"
I didn't remember either of their names.
NDN: "We're good."
ME: "Yeah fucked up times huh?"
NDN: "Sure is. We haven't interacted without anyone since March."
ME: "Neither have we."
NDN: "What are doing for food?"
ME: "I tried one of the on-line food service company's, but mostly I order on-line and pickup, they put the stuff in the trunk."
NDN: "We've been pretty much doing the same thing but did some restaurant curbsides. I need ask to you something."
ME: "OK."
NDN: "I was used to seeing a lot of different cars in your driveway, now none. What's up with that?"
HWR & I had plan should we be question, she cuts hair.
ME: "Yeah, lockdown, you know, no social contact."
NDN: "Yeah that I knew, but all the cars, is what I was wondering?"
ME: "XXXXXX gives haircuts."
NDN: "I'm a bit of insomniac, middle of the night haircuts, huh?"
ME: "You know, people work different shifts."
NDN: "Haircuts, huh, that's what it's called these days huh?"
ME: "Yeah, you know."
NDN: "How can I get in on some of those haircuts?"
ME: "Gotta go, see you soon, stay safe."

Fuck, it feels like our secret is out of the bag, at least with our next door neighbor.

Not sure what to do. Do I tell him what's going on? Do I tell her what's going on? We kept to our rule and stayed away from anyone we know (except for one slip-up). Is the convenient worth the risk? If he suspects, how many others suspect as well? Is he another old guy that can't get it up? Risk vs reward. Now that he suspects, how can I make the ruse believable, do I 'die with the lie'? If he is refused will be out us from revenge or if he is accepted will he out us as bragging? For the first time since this journey began I'm at a loss.