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Accepting the changes that are occurring

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That's just not her scene and I understand it. A while ago I'd thought that maybe she'd want that sort of thing - a drunken one-night-stand kind of thing - but seeing where her desires have led, that's not what she'd want right now.

I think the whole idea of a resort oriented towards sex would turn her off about it. But I do know that some of the other resorts in Jamaica do offer some 'adult themed' entertainment and activities - most all have a nude-beach - so it's possible that maybe in a less focused environment that she'd let herself have some fun.

I'd prefer that our getaway be just for us but again, if she wanted to try something out, I don't think I'd stand in her way.
 
  • #222
Really, Sarasota FL has a legit nude beach? That could be a possibility - we'll check into it. We're also considering Aruba because of the weather but not sure of how the island is for what we're looking for as most of it seemed to be gambling/casino-oriented. Plus, Sue's still freaked out by that whole Natalie Holloway thing where the high-schooler was kidnapped or killed in Aruba.
 
  • #224
dana007 said:
STB
yes it is for real if you want i can pm you all about it.
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Dana,
Put it out here so we can all learn about it.
 
  • #226
According to my Google search - it's actually on "Passage Key" which is accessible only by boat. Not exactly what we were looking for - but still, does raise some possibilities if not for now then maybe for sometime in the future.
 
  • #227
Having lived in Florida a number of years. Sarasota would be a crap shoot this time of year weather wise. It could be warm. But it could also be cold. Yes there are nude beaches and resorts all over Florida. There is one less than 20 mins. from the Magic Kingdom. If Your want a low key Island. With laid back attitudes, try one of the Dutch Islands. Very Open. Very Safe. Compared to others. Bonaire!!! To Each His Own.
 
  • #228
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there is one there but it is not one everyone know's about i will get in touch with a friend of mine still there and have him. send all the info about it to me for you and sue
this one you can drive to or walk to from the key.
thanks Dana
 
  • #229
Yeah but if the weather can be iffy we'd probably opt for someplace where we'd have more of an assurance of good weather.

I've heard of Bonaire - so I guess the real thing we need to do is identify the range we're willing to travel (air-time wise) as well as the cost-range - so we can figure out where is within considering...
 
  • #230
Bonaire

You may have found it already. Sorobon Beach resort, Bonaire

The only nude beach resort on the island

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #233
Hey all - not much to share here as things have turned decidedly "normal" now. As I said, I'd expected this. Especially this year where Sue and her brothers/sisters are all having to do a bit more to make up for what her father used to do. She hasn't said yet whether she's seeing him on Thursday, but I do know she has her christmas (oops meant to say "holiday") party for her job this Friday evening and she's said that she's probably going to go out afterwards (the party is 4:30-9:30pm). Of course my mind wandered right away wondering what/where/who she's going out with, etc., but I know it's nothing.

She hinted that "we'll have fun later tonight" before she left and I'm not sure whether she's suggesting we might have sex tonight or whether it's that she wants me to jerk off for her. I'd go for either obviously but in a way, I do enjoy jerking off for/with her if it includes her teasing or turning me on - that's actually something I've really come to enjoy.
 
  • #234
Ahh - to add - we're looking at costs of all-inclusive packages and it seems that time/cost-wise (time in terms of flying-time) Jamaica has the edge. What we're going to do is to setup maybe two long-weekends with our jobs and then see what we can find on last-minute deals and go from there. We've actually never done a spur-of-the-moment type of trip like this and we do have currrent passports so maybe this is the time.
 
  • #235
SoonToBe said:
She hasn't said yet whether she's seeing [Frank] on Thursday, but I do know she has her christmas (oops meant to say "holiday") party for her job this Friday evening and she's said that she's probably going to go out afterwards (the party is 4:30-9:30pm).
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Has Sue asked you to join her at the party? Thinking back, you actually met Brad at a party months before she chose him as her lover. If she didn't invite you, and you are curious, you could just ask if you are welcome to show up.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #236
Frank

More consideration about Frank.
Reading back in your posts, #'s 154 & 160, and considering Frank's apparent lack of appreciation of what Sue offers him now. I think back to when Sue first started seeing Frank.

Before he was aware that you were, "in on the arrangement," when he thought he was getting "clandestine free married pussy" from Sue, He seemed to be very excited about it. His 'desire for Sue' at that time was very high, and he kept her excited to have sex with him. Even though, it was mostly only, once a week. She filled a definite need for him, and he was excited to provide her with what he thought she was missing at home.

Once he was aware that it was, with your knowledge and approval, and that she in fact was sexually active at home too, his interest began to wane.

By the time that they came back from the 'wedding,' he realized how much Sue wanted sex, and perhaps, due to his experience with Joanne, thought to himself, that Sue may have a sexual 'addiction.'

It is a normal reaction, in our society, to not want to encourage another person's addiction. If that is what Frank is thinking, it would explain his showing a 'lack of desire' for her, and his undemanding attitude, now. And also his 'leaving her alone' at times, while they were away, letting her talk to you on the phone Etc.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #237
Could it be that the relationship between Sue and Frank just ran its course? Like a lot of relationships born in lust. They burn hot to begin with. Sue can mantain it. Frank can't. I admit I just don't understand Frank.
 
  • #238
While I have a moment I'll share my thoughts.

Harry - I too thought that Frank did light-her-fire a bit more early on but then again that could also just be the newness of the entire situation.

I do think his attitude and desire did change after he found out that I knew about it. Perhaps he was mad about it - someone had mentioned that he could get mad about being deceived. But I think it is 2-fold: one is that he doesn't want to break up what he may now see (from what she tells him) as a happy marriage (whereas early on perhaps he didn't have that concern) - and - two is that I think he is still just not horny enough and that comes across in so many different ways.

I don't profess to understand Frank but I do know many guys at work who are in their mid-40's and are either post-divorce or never found the right girl (or never really wanted to) and seem to exist in the "minimal-sex" state. I've talked/joked with these guys at times when we've been out or at a work-related function or maybe a meeting. I've joked "man you must be enjoying yourself playing the field" - and I can't tell you how many say "not really, I just hang home a lot".

My theory is that a lot of these guys are overwhelmed by the stress and pace of work today. I know Frank juggles general-contracting several jobs at once and I know from experience what that stress is like. My work in an IT-related area is just brutal at times. I've always looked at sex, especially with Sue, as a way to ease that stress - but I guess for other guys, it just leaves them tired in general.

Oh well, enough pontificating.... Sue's out picking up our daughter at the mall - so far the plans for later aren't set yet - but my cock is hard already as either choice is a good one.
 
  • #239
Harry - thought I'd add that I think the party or work-event you were talking about was out somewhere at a catering hall or something similar. This year, her company is doing an employee-only party that they are having catered-in and using their big meeting/presentation/conference-room areas for the party. Sue is none-too-thrilled at the work-party but she does seem up about going out afterwards. If I can work it out, I might join her there afterwards depending on where and when, etc..
 
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