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Pain and Pleasure

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New here to the Forum. Have looked around at several of these forums and this one seems to be, at times, the most tame. Needed somewhere to put down my story and my experiences. There is just no one to confide in, in the real world and I have to express my experience.

I'm a 45 year old, white, professional male. I've been married for 10 years and I dated my wife for another 6 before marriage. My wife is 42. We have 4 children, 3 from our marriage, 1 from her first marriage. Our oldest (my stepdaughter) is 20, my youngest is 6.

My wife and I have had an incredible life together. Really, it's been a crazy, love affair, almost from the moment we met. We have a strong, long lasting love, but, like most couples, have had some problems in our relationship, from time to time. We knew each other long before we started dating. I started dating her less than a year after her failed marriage to her first husband.

My wife is a very intelligent, hard working, beautiful lady. She looks 10 years younger than her age and has a wonderfully charming personality. She's also incredibly pretty and turns heads wherever we are. She has always been a bit of a flirt (as have I) but she is (or was) a very faithful girlfriend and wife.

When we first started dating, I wasn't looking for anything serious. I was dating other woman and encouraged her to date other men. It was easier for me than her. I don't think it was in her makeup, then, to have multiple dates or lovers. She fell in love with me first. She was and is very jealous of me in terms of other woman. She despises (or despised) cheating. Family and being faithful to your partner was incredibly important to her.

Almost from the start of our relationship, we would, from time to time, discuss swinging. We never talked about doing it, it was always like it was some intriguing lifestyle. We use to drink at a bar where it was rumored that swingers hung out. We use to look around the bar as we drank and whisper to ourselves who we thought the swingers were.

There has always been a part of each of us that liked to make the other jealous. I am good looking, women find me attractive. I have no problem telling my wife (kiddingly) about the women that hit on me and she has no problem telling me about the men that hit on her.

Once we were married, we would, from time to time, talking about having an "open marriage." Again, always in jest. What she never knew (and I'm sure, never suspected) was that I fantasized about being a cuckold. I am a very dominant, aggressive person in my professional life. At home, I am the one who makes the big decisions (her choice). So, I suppose, as the years have gone on, my general fantasies about being a submissive led into deeper thoughts about being a cuckold.

I suppose, from at least my early college days, I fantasized about everyone of my girlfriends fucking another man. I never knew then that there was a whole lifestyle. In fact, it wasn't until I saw the movie "Boogie Nights" in the mid to late 90s that I even knew there were a lot of people like me. Still, it was always just a fantasy.

We have a wonderful sex life. I have always been able to satisfy her and she me. We love one another deeply. But, such an emotional relationship has it's down side, too. When we fight, they are terrible fights. The times that I have cheated on her were during these fights. I highly doubted that she knew that I had cheated on her. It has maybe happened 4 or 5 times in the time we have been together.

About 3 months ago, we were going through a tough time. A lot of fights. Talks of divorce. We had not had sex in weeks. At some point, I told her that if I didn't get it at home, I would get it outside my home. Again, during our fight, this time, we talked of an open marriage. This time, though, there was a lot of seriousness to the talk. Once we made up, she told me that there would be no open marriage. She said she would rather we get divorced than fool around on each other. She said the surest way to end a marriage was to bring someone else into your bedroom.

One night, not long after, we were out for dinner and drinks. We were drinking at a little bar not far from our home. It's a very trendy bar. It was a Saturday night and the college football season had just started. 2 or 3 great, late games were on and I was engrossed in watching them on the big screen TVs at the bar. My wife, Lori, started talking to some guy she knew. His name was Steve, he was about 30 and she knew him from a friend of hers from work. They had each just volunteered to serve food at some fundraiser and so they were talking a lot about their day of food serving. He was an attractive guy, well built (about 6 feet tall with a toned body) and blond hair and blue eyes. They were both drinking a lot (as was I).

After a little while, I heard them arguing about some song. The argument, all in good fun, was over the words and meaning of the song. At some point, I went outside the bar to have a cigarette. A moment later, my wife and Steve came out of the bar and they were still arguing and laughing.

"All right," she said to me, "We're going to his car to listen to the song and settle this once and for all. Do you want to listen, too?" I rolled my eyes and told her the same thing that I had in the bar, that I was interested in the games and could care less about what the words or meaning to the song were. It was sort of chilly out and my wife wrapped her leather coat around her tight. She looked great, that night. She had her brown leather coat on, jeans and very expensive brown leather boots that went almost to her knees. My wife is about 5' 6", with brown hair and hazel eyes and weighs about 125 pounds. She is a knock out and looked it that night.

They went around the back of the building to his car, I presumed. The bar occupied the corner suite of a small plaza. I headed back inside and went back to my drinks and the game. I ended up watching almost an entire quarter of the games when it dawned on me that they had been gone for almost 20 minutes. I went outside to smoke and see if they were outside smoking. They were not.

So, I went to the parking lot behind the building to make sure everything was OK. I had no idea what kind of car he had so I was listening for music as I peered into the darkness. I saw a grey Jeep Grand Cherokee that seemed to be moving ever so slightly so I figured they were in there. As I approached from the rear of the SUV, I noticed movement in the back seat. I squinted my eyes and saw a foot on the top of the back row of seats, near the headrest. I saw another foot on the top front seat passenger seat, again near the headrest. Not just feet, but brown colored socks. Immediately, I knew it was my wife, but, I think my mind didn't want to comprehend that fact.

I inched closer and heard the panting from inside. I saw Steve on top of my wife, his body moving in and out, up and down between her outstretched legs. I was stunned. Just frozen. In an instant, I snapped out of it, figuring that this guy was ****** my wife. I moved closer and saw a sight that to this day causes my heart to beat rapidly. He was fucking her. I could hear her muffled cries. They weren't cries of fear, she was softly crying out, "There, right there, oh fuck, deeper." Or, words, like that. She had her hands on the small of his back, near his ass. She had put her hands on that very spot on my body hundreds of time. It's how she indicated that you were in the right spot. It's also how she pushed your body (and cock) at the right pace so she could orgasm.

I was just completely stunned. I mean, this was so out of the blue, so unexpected. I was right in the bar. I mean, we had never, ever discussed anything like this. For some reason, my eyes, my vision, froze on her socks. I could almost make out the pattern in those socks (they were sort of like a very light check or argyle pattern). Maybe, it was just because I didn't want to see what was going on, maybe it was because of my foot fetish. I love my wife's feet. I kiss them for a few seconds during every sexual encounter.

I backed away from the car. I didn't know what to do, at the moment.

Well, that's enough for now. I will write more another time.
 
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The next night, after we got the kids to bed, we lay in bed, watching TV. I immediately started to kiss her neck and rub her inner thighs, ass and clit with my hands. I moved my lips to her lips and opened my mouth, attempting to give her a deep, open mouthed kiss. I wanted to french kiss her, sticking my tongue into her mouth. She just sort of twisted her head to indicate that I should go back to her neck. I did that and moved to her shoulders and then to her earlobes. She was getting excited. My hand now moved over her pussy, massaging her clit through her pajama bottoms. She suddenly rolled on top of me, leaned down so I could keep kissing her neck, and started to rub her groin very, very roughly over my erect cock. I, too, was in my pajamas, and I could feel my cock grate up against her pussy and the inside of my underwear. She was very forceful, pushing down onto my cock and grinding back and forth. She tensed and came.

Normally, if this happened, I'd keep kissing her, rubbing her legs and ass and she'd be ready to make love in a couple minutes. This time, she let me keep kissing her neck and shoulders and she took her hand and started to rub my cock from the outside of my pajamas. I tried to stop her after a minute, indicating that if this kept up, I would come in about a minute or two, but, she wouldn't stop. In fact, she sort of egged me on to climax by whispering, "I bet that feels good, hmmmm?" She now slid her hand in my pajamas but still on top of my underwear and kept rubbing. I started to push my cock into her hand, thrusting up and down while I kissed her. She finally slid my underwear down a bit and took my cock in her hand, stroked it a couple of times and I came.

After I cleaned up, and we lay there, I asked her what was going on? She acted like she didn't know what I was talking about. I told her that we hadn't had sex in a couple weeks (she'd given me a blow job the week before and now a hand job). She said something like, "Didn't you enjoy tonight? You seemed like you liked it."

"Lori," I said, choosing my words carefully, "Is something going on with you?" She again acted like she had no idea what I could be talking about. I said, "Were you with a guy ..... Steve, last night?" She just laughed and said, "Oh my God, are you jealous, what's with this?" I asked her to answer my question. She said, "I should be asking you about all the things you've done. Hmmm, want to talk about that? What are you suggesting?"

Now, I was on tricky ground. She was hinting at my own, past infidelities. What did she know, I wondered.

I leaned over and kissed her neck. She pulled away from me. "No," she said, "Let's talk if you want to talk."
 
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At the moment, not sure of what she knew about my past indiscretions, I opted for an easy way out. I told her that I was sorry and to forget about the whole thing.

Things settled into a sort of calm routine for the next 2 weeks. We didn't have sex the following weekend but there was no real unpleasantness. I thought that she knew that I knew that she was fucking around and, I'm guessing, she thought that I knew that she knew that I had fucked around.

The Friday night, 2 weeks after the events in my last post, we both had plans to go out with friends. We had our babysitter coming to watch the kids. When we, separately, went out with our friends, we purposely went to different clubs or bars. We figured that we needed time alone with our friends so we always chose different places. This week was no exception.

She left the house first, leaving around 7:00. I left around 8:00. As usual, she looked fucking incredible. Tight jeans, nice boots, great leather coat, Guccci purse and hair and makeup done perfectly. Tonight, she wore a brown top and she had cream/brown Victoria Secret panty and bra underneath. My plan was to drive to the bar where she was, park my car in some dark, nondescript spot, and, well, spy a little on her. I figured I could meet my friends around 10:00, so I had 2 hours of spying.

The club she was at was packed and, as I drove through the lot, I saw her car. I pulled into a spot way in the back of the lot, behind some other cars, and watched. I couldn't see inside the bar, but, I wanted to see if I saw anyone coming and going (like Steve). A couple times, I thought I saw one of my wife's friends having a cigarette near the bar entrance, but, I couldn't be sure. Then, around 9:30, my heart jumped. Out of the bar came Lori, alone. She was walking on the side of the building and, then, she stopped and waited. A couple minutes later, out of the bar came Steve. My heart was racing. Again, I had the same mix of anger and excitement.

Steve walked over to where Lori was and my wife put her arms around him as they faced each other and they gave each other a passionate kiss. Steve gently pushed her up against the building's wall and they kissed for about a minute. Her hands were now on his ass and she rubbed his gently as they kissed.

She took his hand in hers and they walked to his SUV. They got in and he started the car. I didn't know what to do, but, I waited until they pulled out of the lot and headed the same direction they had. I saw his taillights about 200 yards up the road and, thankfully, there was no traffic between us. I was afraid to get to close for fear of being spotted. They made a right, drove down the road about 2 miles and I stayed well behind them. I saw his right turn blinker go on as they approached a very small condo complex (there were about 5 ranch condos there). I guessed he lived there and I quickly spotted a small grocery plaza across the street. I pulled my car in the plaza parking lot and could see them, walking hand in hand, from his car to the front door of a condo. As they approached the door, they started to kiss again. More wild, passionate kisses this time. As they kissed, I noticed her one hand reaching down to his groin and she gently rubbed his cock through his jeans. He opened the door and they went inside.

I sat in my car, stunned. As I contemplated going to his door and putting an end to all this, I nearly had a heart attack when my cell phone started to buzz. I figured it was my friends calling to find out when I was coming. Instead, I saw my wife's number. I panicked, my heart was racing-they had seen me.

I picked the phone up and she said, "Hi" in a calm voice. She told me that she and her friends were going to be out late and wondered if I could be home by 1:00 to let the babysitter go home. I told her I could. She asked if I was having fun and I told her, "sorta, yeah." I asked her if she was having fun and she said, "Oh, yeah. A great time. See you later, love you."
 
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:eek:That doesn't sound fun... Maybe you should confront her, because she is blatantly cheating with no concern for you at all. Not a good road to travel. Maybe you can hint to her that you would like to watch her in action with Him sometime, and see what she says. At the rate you are going now you may lose her to this guy...
 
The definition of cuckold is "A man married to an unfaithful wife." Does anyone in these Forums understand that a cuckold is a man whose wife is fucking around on him? :confused:
 
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Lori came home later that afternoon. She did look as if she had been to the gym as she seemed to have been sweating. She peeled off her tennis shoes and sat next to me on the couch. She plopped her feet onto my lap, her signal that she wanted a foot massage. Her socks were damp so I knew she had been exercising (what kind of exercising was the question :eek:). Yet, I noticed some dirt/darker areas on the soles of her white ankle socks, indicating to me that she had taken her shoes off somewhere (Steve's house, maybe).

That evening, after the kids went to sleep, we drank a little and sat in bed. There seemed to be tension in the air. I said to her, "Lori, I need to know what's going on." She sort of sighed and said, "Do I need to spell things out for you? I mean, do you really want to know all the details? Let me put it this way, you seem to have things figured out, what more do you want to know?"

I got a little angry and said, "I don't want to know anything. How about if I just pack my things and leave, tonight?" She said, "You want to leave your family? Hmmm? Oh, so when you were fucking that *****, Lisa, that was OK, you didn't want to leave us then, but now...."

I started to say that I hadn't done anything, but, I just couldn't lie like that. It wouldn't have mattered anyway, she wouldn't have believed it. And, I had fucked Lisa, for a long, long time.

"I want it to end, with Steve. If I don't leave, then it has to end." She shook her head and said, "No, it's not ending. How long did you fuck that *****? How many whores did you fuck before her?"

This was not what I had hoped. On the other hand, it's what I expected and, I suppose, what I deserved.
 
Lori pounced on my silence by saying something like "You wanted an open marriage. Or did you just expect that it would only be open for you?"

I went downstairs to watch TV and cool down. I told myself that either she would end things with Steve or I'd leave. I told myself it would be a cold day in hell before I got back into our marital bed.

Yet, 2 hours later, I crept back upstairs and got into our bed. She was sleeping. I wanted to wake her up and argue with her ..... plead with her, but, I didn't. I had no defense for my earlier actions with Lisa (among others).

Things were quiet ..... hell, icy between us for the next 2 weeks. Then, that Friday night (2 weeks after our discussion), she told me that she was going out. I shook my head in disgust, but, didn't say anything. She looked fantastic and I knew she was going to meet Steve again. She was out late and I fell asleep before she came home. While she was gone, I took those brown socks, placed them near my nose, and masturbated to thoughts of her getting fucked in the backseat of his SUV. I also envisioned his condo, fantasized about her giving him head. Lori loved sucking cock, just loved it. It turned her on to no end. I imagined Steve was getting his cock sucked just before he fucked her. Hell, maybe she had sucked his cock early in the evening, let him cum, then had fantastic sex hours later. I was filled with anger, rage, disgust but, truthfully, part of it turned me on. Another man had taken my wife. Another man was fucking her.

The next night, I knew something had to be done. I went and sat next to her in bed after the kids went to sleep. I had drank quite a bit, earlier, in an effort to find some courage and find some words. She had, apparently, done the same as she was definitely ***** as we talked.

"I want it to end or ....." I started. She laughed and said, "Or what, you threatening to leave again?' I responded, "Well, what is it that you expect me to do, let another man fuck you?" She looked at me and said, "You expected me to let you fuck another woman, didn't you?" I sort of murmured something like "Well, you weren't supposed to know about that," but I knew as I said it that it was the wrong thing to say, so I just sort of mumbled and let it trail off.

She cleared her throat and said, "This is the way things are for now, either accept it or move on. You expected me to accept it." I said, "So what, we have a marriage in name only, I mean, am I allowed to go play around now?" She scowled and said, "Do whatever you want, you did in the past and made a fool of me." I touched her leg and said, "I don't want anybody else, I want you."

She laughed again and said, "Get that thought out of your head. We are not having sex." I looked at her and said, "What? Why? I mean, never. That's insane. I'm telling you now that ..."

She interrupted me and said, "'Why?' I tell you why. Because I'd feel funny having sex with you, strange. Sex with us is supposed to mean something, be special. Do you really want to have sex with me when you know I'm sleeping with someone else?"

I was silent. I didn't know what I wanted. I rubbed her leg and her ass and started to kiss the small of her back, "Please," I whispered, "Just come back to me, I'll never do anything wrong again, I promise."

I was getting to her but, then, she said, "You promised to love and to cherish me, that didn't happen did it?" I rubbed her inner thighs and kept kissing her back and the top of her ass. I moved my mouth between her legs and started to open mouth kiss her pussy through her pajamas. She let out a little moan and spread her legs. I kept kissing and now used my hand to rub her in that spot. Her body started to move and I knew she liked it. She grabbed the back of my head and ****** it down onto "the spot." I pressed my lips and tongue against that spot, on her pajamas, and after a minute or so, she tensed, let out a moan, and came.

We lay there is silence. She broke it, finally, by sort of giggling and saying, "Thanks, but, I'm not having sex with you. I'd feel funny." She did, however, say, "But, just for now, I will do this." She slid her hand inside the top of my pajamas and cupped it over my cock and underwear. She slowly stroked up and down. I moved by body up and down, rubbing my cock against her hand. She stopped and let me, basically, fuck her hand (through my underwear). She leaned over and whispered in my ear, "I bet that feels so good, like being inside me again, hmmm. Yeah, feels good doesn't it?" It did feel good and, within a minute, I tensed and shot a load in my underwear.

The whole time, I kept thinking about her and Steve. How Steve had access to her. How, I'm sure, he was getting his cock sucked. How, I'm sure, she swallowed his cum. How, I'm sure, she spread her legs for him. How she grabbed his ass when he hit "the spot." How he made her orgasm. I came thinking about my wife fucking another man while I fucked her hand. It was crazy.
 
You could agree to be a cuckold husband, so she can carry on with Steve and you go into a CB6000 and kiss Steve's feet to show your compliance.

Or you could say that you had your fling and she has had hers - so if she wants to keep dating Steve, you will find a girlfriend to date on the nights she is with Steve. That will put it on a level playing field as an Open marriage.

I think she is enjoying see you stressing about losing her to another man. You could call her bluff and be prepared to go on a real date with another girl. You need a few suspicious phone calls which make you go out of the room so she can't listen.
 
Saraha, no chastity for me and no kissing a man's foot (yuck). The rest of your suggestions, well, keep reading.....

So, for the next three weeks, things continued like they had. We had no sex. Occasionally, she would allow me kiss her while I pleased her with my hands. Once, she did, in fact, jack me off but she jacked me off only with my underwear on, never touching my cock. That time, I kissed her feet while she brought me to orgasm.

Twice she went out at night to meet and fuck Steve. She went to the gym a few times so, I'm sure, she was fucking him then, too. She had a confidence about her that I had not seen in many years. She looked great, hot as hell, in fact.

Then, one Saturday night, we had to go to a wedding reception. Someone she worked with. The reception was in another little city about 30 miles from where we lived. We drank a lot and everything seemed fine at the reception. Afterwards, she said she wanted to stop for drinks at a bar near the reception hall. We hadn't been to that bar in a long while, but, we both were enjoying the night out and I figured "what the hell, it will be fun." I really felt good, had a nice buzz (as did she) and I knew this was the time to try to talk her into ending this affair.

We got to the bar and ordered drinks. It was crowded, but, not packed. We knew no one there as it really was far away from our town and our crowd. Within 5 minutes of us sitting down, Steve walked in. I was just stunned.

He looked around, spotted us at our booth and came over, sliding in next to Lori. Whatever shame or embarrassment he had felt the last (and first) time I had seen him was now gone. He was confident. Lori gave him a hug and a kiss and then began rubbing her hand on top of his. She said to me, "You remember Steve, right?" He laughed.

I said, "What the fuck are you doing? Are you kidding me?" She said, "If you want to leave, leave, Steve can take me home." She kept rubbing the palm of her hand over the top of his. It was clear that she was physically attracted to this guy.

I just sort of looked down, not sure what to do. I glared at her but she had lost interest in me, she was now nuzzling her lips onto his shoulder and neck. I had not been expecting this.

"Lori," I said. She looked at me and said, "I told you that you can leave, bye bye." I was getting angry and said, "I'm not leaving." She shrugged her shoulders, kept rubbing his damn hand and giving him light kisses on his cheek and neck.

Then, I noticed that her other hand had dropped down below the booth table, down to his legs. I could see the motion, she was either rubbing his leg with her other hand or rubbing his cock. My own cock, unbelievably, was rock hard.

I stormed out of the bar.
 
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