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Old School Interracial
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extreme_master40 said:
Betty Page's heyday was a little before my time, but she was still a star and a legend when I was growing up in the 1960s and early 1970s. I considered her a major turn-on in those days--as did many others.
Betty Page was originally from The South, Tennessee, I believe, and grew up with a fairly strict religious background. Like more than a few young girls in her time, she left home and went out to So.Cal. in hopes of getting into movies or modeling. And, while she didn't get her foot in the door with any of the Hollywood studios, she was able to get some modeling assignments--not as a "high-fashion model" but in magazines, etc.
Believe it or not, Betty Page was one of the first Playboy centerfolds, along with Marilyn Monroe, when the magazine first came out. I don't know if she was the very first or in the third issue of Playboy (one of those two women was the centerfold for the third issue), but she definitely appeared in one of the issues that came out in Playboy's first year. At that stage of her career, Betty Page was well on her way to being one of the top "pin-up" models.
Somewhere along the line, she hooked up with Irving Klaw, a photographer whose sexy nude and semi-nude s/m and fetish photos have made him famous. For the era and in the genre, Klaw was an excellent photographer and Betty Page was perhaps his most photogenic subject. If I recall correctly, initially, Page was just supposed to do a series of "cheese-cake" (garters-and-heels type, suggestive, but only slightly revealing, non-nude) shots with Klaw, but she hit it off with him and his wife (who did a lot of modeling for her husband in fetish and s/m gear) and it wasn't long before she agreed to let Klaw photograph her semi-nude (in those days, taking photos that showed a woman's vagina could get not just the woman, but the photographer and anyone else present arrested--oftentimes on a ************ rap--so a lot of the photographers of the day tried to work around that by shooting "cheese-cake" and other kinds of suggestive, non-nude photos and pictures with spanking, s/m and bondage themes and dress) and in a series of bondage pics. The bondage and fetish photos that Klaw shot of Betty Page were considered so hot for that era that they instantly became incredibly popular and widely circulated on the underground adult market. If Betty Page was not the America's first porn star (up until then and even for many years later, the people who appeared in XXX-rated porn didn't use their names or even admit that they had anything to do with porn because they could get arrested and the same was true with most models and strippers--but Betty Page was known as a model before the Klaw photos began to circulate, so, like the stripper Candy Samples, she was known)--she certainly became the best known and most popular of her era. But, she had become so well-known in not just the adult underground, but in the magazine, modeling and publishing industry, that she was no longer getting any "straight" modeling work. Still, she was so popular in the underground adult world that she could have had a successful career posing for the growing number of "men's magazines" of that era.
Instead, suddenly, she just disappeared. And, no one seemed to know why or where she was.
By the time I first saw her in some of the Irving Klaw photos in the mid-to-late 1960s, Betty Page had already become a myth. There were dozens of stories circulating about what happened to her, where she had gone and why she had disappeared. But, no one really seemed to know what was truth and what was fiction.
Then, somewhere between 1980 and 1990 (forgive an old man for having a bad memory :lol
, there was a Betty Page revival--magazines and stories about her began to appear and a lot of the old photos began to resurface again. Which, of course, raised all of the old questions about what had happened to her. I'm not sure if it was Playboy, Penthouse or Hustler, but one of those magazines--and, would you believe, 60 Minutes!--sent out a reporter to try to find out what really happened to Betty Page. Eventually, the reporter succeeded.According to the story that I read, the reporter found Betty Page living on a farm under her married name somewhere in the South/Southwest (the location was deliberately not disclosed). An old lady and grandmother at the time, Page was not too happy about having a reporter show up at her door and only agreed to answer questions if her identity and location were not revealed by the reporter. As I recall the story, Page told the reporter that, while she felt there was nothing wrong with the photos that she had modeled for and felt no guilt about having posed for them, she decided to quit modeling and leave So. Cal. when she did because, after the Klaw photos started to circulate, she felt she no longer had any chance of having a successful career in "straight" modeling and, for religious reasons, she was uncomfortable with the kinds of things that those who were willing to hire her as a model wanted her to do. She told the reporter that, since she didn't see herself as being that important or well-known or in demand, she didn't feel that she needed to tell anyone that she worked with about her decision to quit modeling and leave Southern California. She simply left and went back home. Ultimately, according to the story I read, she met a man that she married, moved to where she lives now and had a family.
At the time the story came out, Betty Page was a very religious, old woman, living in quiet anonymity in a rural community with her family, having quite happily returned to her roots when she decided to quit modeling and leave So. Cal., ******* of all of the myths that had grown up around her "disappearance" and the fact that she had become something of an icon, if not a legend.
As for whether she had gotten pregnant and got an abortion, etc., there was no indication in the story that any of that happened, although, given the life that she had gone on to lead, it is doubtful that Betty Page would have told the reporter any of that had it in fact occurred. Still, her version of things, as reported in the story, was so mundane that, sadly, it had the ring of truth to it.
But, no matter what the truth is, thanks to those photos that she posed for, Betty Page will continue to be an a beautiful, young, exciting turn-on regardless....
Betty...
Yes, the incomparable Betty Page was featured in a LOT of bondage and s/m style pics. In her day, she was quite risque in many circles. I remember seeing a short film where other women broke into Betty's house, tied her up, then carried her out to their car, where they put Betty in the trunk. She was definitely into the bondage thing, either being threatened or threatening another semi clad woman, with a whip. That stirred up an entire generation of male libidos!
However, I don't ever recall seeing Betty in any I/R photos. More's the pity.
Yes, the incomparable Betty Page was featured in a LOT of bondage and s/m style pics. In her day, she was quite risque in many circles. I remember seeing a short film where other women broke into Betty's house, tied her up, then carried her out to their car, where they put Betty in the trunk. She was definitely into the bondage thing, either being threatened or threatening another semi clad woman, with a whip. That stirred up an entire generation of male libidos!
However, I don't ever recall seeing Betty in any I/R photos. More's the pity.
In the late 1600's with a demand for tobacco for export, the Virginia farmers needed workers. the choices were 1st Bond Slaves from Europe
then Black Slaves suppied from Barbados. They took all they could get
from anywhere. They all worked together. We all see the "Harvest Paintings". Well there was not a harvest time all year round. If the farmers
were like you people, I'm sure they organized some special fun events that
would include a lot of black and White orgies to pass the Winter season.
Just think what you would do given the power and opportunity the farmers
had in those early years in Williamsburg and surly as horny then as we are
today. I have always wanted to write fiction about IR activites in this
period but have never had the time. Why don't you guys give it a try. With your love of interracial activity, we could all enjoy reading your stuff.
A final note: All that is left, after 2000 years of Roman IR fun, is the big
Italian dicks, that genetics gave them, long after the color faded. Note too
that the Greeks are darker now then shown in the art of their golden time. Slavery has been around for thousands of years and, as we see in
the USA, it does leave its mark. The lions shown in the Greek and Italian
Art are not from North Africa; so, you know they went down south of the
Sahara. Probably brought back a little something for the wife to help
around the house too. I'm sure it was electric; but, when it was plugged in, it was not a wall socket it got plugged into. Also; I think we all know
what "Greek" means so we can guess our ancestors (B&W) had all the
sexual urges we all have today. It just takes the opportunity that comes
with the racial mix and proximity coupled with that lustful attraction that
we all feel the strength of but can not easily explain.
then Black Slaves suppied from Barbados. They took all they could get
from anywhere. They all worked together. We all see the "Harvest Paintings". Well there was not a harvest time all year round. If the farmers
were like you people, I'm sure they organized some special fun events that
would include a lot of black and White orgies to pass the Winter season.
Just think what you would do given the power and opportunity the farmers
had in those early years in Williamsburg and surly as horny then as we are
today. I have always wanted to write fiction about IR activites in this
period but have never had the time. Why don't you guys give it a try. With your love of interracial activity, we could all enjoy reading your stuff.
A final note: All that is left, after 2000 years of Roman IR fun, is the big
Italian dicks, that genetics gave them, long after the color faded. Note too
that the Greeks are darker now then shown in the art of their golden time. Slavery has been around for thousands of years and, as we see in
the USA, it does leave its mark. The lions shown in the Greek and Italian
Art are not from North Africa; so, you know they went down south of the
Sahara. Probably brought back a little something for the wife to help
around the house too. I'm sure it was electric; but, when it was plugged in, it was not a wall socket it got plugged into. Also; I think we all know
what "Greek" means so we can guess our ancestors (B&W) had all the
sexual urges we all have today. It just takes the opportunity that comes
with the racial mix and proximity coupled with that lustful attraction that
we all feel the strength of but can not easily explain.
Seems like that there was always one or two girls that ventured into unknown territory, I'm 51yrs old and over the yrs have known of several, and after talking to others from other areas of the country it was not as uncommom a practice as one would thing. Before the late 60's less out in the open, the 70's was the "Free Love" era.Neat 'n Petite said:
The pictures and films that people saw and still enjoying today mostly were done in Europe. Sweden become the place at one time were just about anything was OK. Still carries over to were lots of Americans think of Sweden, France, Germany, as place that was open to anything. Italy was right up there but having such ties with the Catholic Church most people do not think of it. After going through two world wars, most people had other shit to worry about rather than somthing like who's fucking who.
