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Not a cuck or bull...

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primalbst

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Let's try this again. I posted under "she agree now what" and didn't receive the information I needed. I am looking for help and experiences so that we can better make the decision. I have been reading and commenting for the past couple weeks and have gleaned a lot of info but it still isn't enough.

Even though the title says not a cuck or bull. I realize that I have been cuckolded by my wife in the past. Now that that is over, let's continue.

I am closer to a Bull in personality but have no desire to be either. I thought I would like to be cuckolded but reading what it takes I just don't find it appealing. Instead I would like to investigate hot-wife'ing or swinging.

I just can't get in to being subservient to another man, let alone while he is fucking my wife. And as for being a Bull, I have no desire to humiliate another man while fucking his wife. I have no desire to fuck another mans wife even. I just really want to see my wife enjoy a big, thick cock that isn't made of rubber. I know, selfish of me, bad husband.

It's not that I don't satisfy her. I'm average length and girth and I satisfy the hell out of that pussy. Even get her to squirt often which is a total turn-on for me and awesome orgasm for her. But the grass is always greener right? There is always someone out there, bigger, stronger, faster, more satisfying, etc. And before she met me, she was a bit of a slut and could never stay faithful in a long-term relationship. So although it hurt like a bitch, it didn't surprise me that she cheated.

Anyways, she has cheated on me three times in the past and each time our sex life gets better. We figured out that I thrive on the competitive feeling it creates in me. I try harder than ever to satisfy her.

And she thrives on the sexual control she takes. She has stated during our entire relationship she never felt fully in control of the sex. I had taken it when I wanted like the stupid ape I am. She says that she has always had control, starting at about 14 when she blossomed in to a C-cup and the grade 12's were drooling over her. She said that part of the reason is because she wanted that control back and to punish me for not being able to manipulate me using her sexuality. All I really know is she gets more aggressive and dominating in bed every cheat.

She says she is not sure she wants to fuck anyone else anymore as she is getting what she always wanted now. I think it's either because she would be fucking them on my terms, not hers, or she thinks it will do irreparable harm to my ego, our relationship and our family unit as a whole(we have two children) and just isn't worth it.

I know, bad hubby again, second-guessing the wife's true intentions, but I am not gonna lie, that last cheat destroyed the complete trust bond because of the way it went down. But strengthened the other bonds which confuses the hell out of me sometimes.

I was also thinking that it's because it's not as taboo as it was when it was behind my back. I told her by definition she has already made me a cuckold and it turns me on. Which is partly true. Sometimes in the heat of RP I get "diamond in an ice storm" hard. But out of the bedroom I am anywhere from "extremely aroused" to "any man touches my woman, they ain't getting that appendage back" angry. And I have told her that, which I guess then another reason would have to be fear of me going "bull in a china shop" ballistic. That is a hard one to get past as there have been incidents in the past where men had to be taught some respect. But age and surviving cancer has mellowed me considerably.

How do you suggest I get her off the fence? Or do you even suggest I move her at all and just let her stay there and RP till she makes the move? I'm not gonna push her. I love my wife, flaws and all. And she has already stated that she would reluctantly do it if I really wanted her to. I know she thinks about other men. And just recently we watched a porn where the woman was GB'd by seven guys, and that night she had a dream that she was that woman, grabbing at their cocks, slapping them against her body, but no penetration, no sucking and no cumming, which kinda disappointed us but she said she also felt bad while doing it. I asked naughty kinky bad or sad bad, she said sad bad. Don't know if this gives any insight to where she is mentally with all this.

PS-I have posted some pics of my loving wife and personal porn starlet on my profile, enjoy.
 
Hey there, sorry it has been so difficult to find the advice you are looking for. Like you, I am not into the idea of humiliation at all, just the idea of sharing my hotwife. The best advice I can offer stems from where I messed it up a little on my part. Do not obsess on this subject. I cannot stress enough, that if your wife is into it, it will happen. Just don't make it an every night I NEED to fantasize about it kind of thing. I would suggest maybe a tonight we'll RP my fantasy and tomorrow night yours thing. Since you already know she would be willing, try going to a bar or dance club one night. Make sure she understands that there is absolutely no pressure. Let her dance with other guys if the opportunity arises, and gauge hers and your own reactions accordingly. You may find it better to go home afterwards and just talk about how sexy she looked grinding on the other guy, and have her tell you how it felt. Just a few suggestions, but remember, don't obsess or you'll probably end up further from where you want to be.

primalbst said:
Let's try this again. I posted under "she agree now what" and didn't receive the information I needed. I am looking for help and experiences so that we can better make the decision. I have been reading and commenting for the past couple weeks and have gleaned a lot of info but it still isn't enough.

Even though the title says not a cuck or bull. I realize that I have been cuckolded by my wife in the past. Now that that is over, let's continue.

I am closer to a Bull in personality but have no desire to be either. I thought I would like to be cuckolded but reading what it takes I just don't find it appealing. Instead I would like to investigate hot-wife'ing or swinging.

I just can't get in to being subservient to another man, let alone while he is fucking my wife. And as for being a Bull, I have no desire to humiliate another man while fucking his wife. I have no desire to fuck another mans wife even. I just really want to see my wife enjoy a big, thick cock that isn't made of rubber. I know, selfish of me, bad husband.

It's not that I don't satisfy her. I'm average length and girth and I satisfy the hell out of that pussy. Even get her to squirt often which is a total turn-on for me and awesome orgasm for her. But the grass is always greener right? There is always someone out there, bigger, stronger, faster, more satisfying, etc. And before she met me, she was a bit of a slut and could never stay faithful in a long-term relationship. So although it hurt like a bitch, it didn't surprise me that she cheated.

Anyways, she has cheated on me three times in the past and each time our sex life gets better. We figured out that I thrive on the competitive feeling it creates in me. I try harder than ever to satisfy her.

And she thrives on the sexual control she takes. She has stated during our entire relationship she never felt fully in control of the sex. I had taken it when I wanted like the stupid ape I am. She says that she has always had control, starting at about 14 when she blossomed in to a C-cup and the grade 12's were drooling over her. She said that part of the reason is because she wanted that control back and to punish me for not being able to manipulate me using her sexuality. All I really know is she gets more aggressive and dominating in bed every cheat.

She says she is not sure she wants to fuck anyone else anymore as she is getting what she always wanted now. I think it's either because she would be fucking them on my terms, not hers, or she thinks it will do irreparable harm to my ego, our relationship and our family unit as a whole(we have two children) and just isn't worth it.

I know, bad hubby again, second-guessing the wife's true intentions, but I am not gonna lie, that last cheat destroyed the complete trust bond because of the way it went down. But strengthened the other bonds which confuses the hell out of me sometimes.

I was also thinking that it's because it's not as taboo as it was when it was behind my back. I told her by definition she has already made me a cuckold and it turns me on. Which is partly true. Sometimes in the heat of RP I get "diamond in an ice storm" hard. But out of the bedroom I am anywhere from "extremely aroused" to "any man touches my woman, they ain't getting that appendage back" angry. And I have told her that, which I guess then another reason would have to be fear of me going "bull in a china shop" ballistic. That is a hard one to get past as there have been incidents in the past where men had to be taught some respect. But age and surviving cancer has mellowed me considerably.

How do you suggest I get her off the fence? Or do you even suggest I move her at all and just let her stay there and RP till she makes the move? I'm not gonna push her. I love my wife, flaws and all. And she has already stated that she would reluctantly do it if I really wanted her to. I know she thinks about other men. And just recently we watched a porn where the woman was GB'd by seven guys, and that night she had a dream that she was that woman, grabbing at their cocks, slapping them against her body, but no penetration, no sucking and no cumming, which kinda disappointed us but she said she also felt bad while doing it. I asked naughty kinky bad or sad bad, she said sad bad. Don't know if this gives any insight to where she is mentally with all this.

PS-I have posted some pics of my loving wife and personal porn starlet on my profile, enjoy.
 
I am not into the humuliation thing either. But I do love the raw sex aspect. I actually enjoy the hell out of seeing a lady being satisfied in person and I enjoy sharing the results of that union. I developed a thing for used women that is very sensual for me.

On the other side, I have enjoyed 3somes with married couples and always have been respectful to both the husband and wife to include inviting him to come see my cock penetrate his wife as we are making love.

While I can enjoy dirty talk, I do not and have never been subjected to humuliation nor given it.

That said, I do like a good snowball. Just go for it and keep us posted.
 
Thanks for replies

Thanks for the replies.

Dbarr4you: Yeah the clubbing thing is what I have been thinking. We went to a strip-club together a while back and I was fondling her tits and she was grabbing at my dick, but over clothing. When we left she said she so wanted to pop her tits out and go down on me. She said she was getting so horny with all the guys looking at her cleavage and the way we were acting but just couldn't go through with it. But I did get a nice BJ in the parking lot. Mini-vans aren't just for hauling the family around. ;)So I know she likes the way other guys look at her as a sex object ... sometimes.

We went out with a friend, admittedly he gives off a creepy vibe, but is a real nice guy. He was glancing at her cleavage during dinner, didn't bother me, slightly bothered her but not enough to cover up. She got creeped out though when we got up to leave and he was staring at her butt as we walked up to pay. But later that month we were shopping and an attractive guy in a suit was glancing and she gave him a double take with a smile. So she is kinda shallow in that way but a sweetheart to people in general. It also shows again that she is receptive to other guys thinking of her "that way" even with me right beside her.

I think I am actually doing ok with the not dwelling on it part. And if she doesn't seem receptive to it that session, we switch gears and we go with hers or we just have regular sex. She does orgasm a lot more when we are RPing though. But yeah, I should do more talking about why she didn't want to RP that scenario.

tanboat05 you sound like the type of man I wouldn't have a problem with if my wife decided to try it out. Respectful of not only her but us as a couple, realizing that the bond we share beyond sex is 10x's greater than the sexual bond. Someone that wouldn't try and break that bond, just to do me harm. And you also helped me learn a new term, snowballing. I might try that next time she blows me, but I think I would have to be super horny.

As a side note, she asked what I was reading and I was telling her I am getting advice about how to potentially proceed with our experiment and told her that she should read this forum on her own sometime and she actually seemed receptive to the idea. So if you see posting under my name but it's obviously female, I haven't wigged out and don't have a split personality. :p

Some of the stories wrinkle her nose, but others she is more receptive too. And the real good ones put her in the mood. Keep the advice coming.
 
UPDATE!!!

Yay! She finally got on her by herself today. Logged in as me while I was sleeping. I have been asking her to do this for about a month now so as far as I am concerned it is a big step in the right direction. She has posted under this thread:

http://www.cuckolds.com/forums/wife-pix/31453-potential-bbw-milf-hotwife-pics.html

She has asked "What would you say to a women that is not sure about the whole thing?". Please, please, please go there and comment. Tell her the good, the bad, the ugly, but mostly the good. Thanks.
 
primalbst said:
....... But out of the bedroom I am anywhere from "extremely aroused" to "any man touches my woman, they ain't getting that appendage back" angry. And I have told her that, which I guess [would be] another reason [for my wife's] fear of me going "bull in a china shop" ballistic. That is a hard one to get past as there have been incidents in the past where men had to be taught some respect. .......
Do you look physically intimidating? In your town or milieu, do you have a reputation — perhaps dating more from the past than recently — for losing your temper and fighting in bars, sometimes (as you said) beating the shit out a man you feel has not treated your wife with "sufficient respect"?

If so, that may be the reason your wife cuckolded you by fucking other men behind your back.... so you wouldn't know who they were. And, it may mean that if your wife cuckolds you in the future, she will have to identify potential lovers, then seduce and fuck them on her own, to get past the problem of other men not wanting to risk you "going ballistic" if they put the make on your wife when the two of you are together.
 
Custer - it does not look like the guy has posted since 2011 and has on the forum in 2012. This guys sound as if he is not truly compatible sexually with his own wife's desires. At this point she likely went back to cheating, they are sexually unhappy or divorced by now.
 
SquirmingSub said:
Custer - it does not look like the guy has posted since 2011 and has on the forum in 2012. This guys sound as if he is not truly compatible sexually with his own wife's desires. At this point she likely went back to cheating, they are sexually unhappy or divorced by now.
Curses.... fooled again by failure to look at the original posting dates.... :(
 
Custer you always do provide great advise and insight. :)
 

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