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Need advice to keep her going while keeping me
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ok, lots to update-
after tuesday not being able to talk with one another too much, i told her wednesday i had a date with a woman from the dating site that we're on. i told her i wasnt sure if i should go, but she told me to. so i went and met Sara. We had a good time and later came back to my place and had sex.
Thursday i told LeeAnn what happened. She said unlike me, she did not need to know details and that she assumed we would have sex anyway. I said I didnt assume that and it almost didnt happen. she again got frustrated and said she didnt need to know that i fucked Sara. I told her we should hang out and talk thurs night, she said ok but she had to go shopping first. She did not come back until 10pm, i left to go to her place.
I brought her the shoes I bought her to match her sexy outfits she'd bought a couple weeks back when we were together, a pair of very sexy black high heels about 4.5 inches high. She loved them. I suggested she model them with the red fishnets that i didnt get to see. She came back out and we fucked twice like crazy. She looked so hot.
We then talked about our weekend plans. We had a date for saturday, but when I asked her out a week or so ago, i didnt realize it was for the same night as a party a co-worker was throwing. I mentioned this tuesday, she said we could go out earlier then i could go to the party, she didnt want to go because a friend of hers didnt want to go. Well, that changed to we could go out that afternoon. I said i couldnt because i had my child that afternoon. I asked why we couldnt keep our date like planned.
She then explained that she was going out of town friday night, like she mentioned on tuesday, because her friend was meeting someone. They planned to stay at her friend's moms house, come back saturday. She has hair and nails to get done sat afternoon. We could meet that afternoon, that night she was going out with her friend.
I asked why she was cancelling our date, she said that originally her friend was meeting a guy friday, but now it was a double date and she was to meet his brother. If things went well, they may come back with them saturday, and they would all go out saturday night. If the guys didnt come back with them, her and her friend planned to go out saturday night.
I told her this was against one of our maxims: that we keep the plans we make with each other. She said she was sorry, but her friend put a lot of pressure on her and she couldn't tell her no. She said she was sorry, but she did step aside and let me go out with Sara the night before. This led to a heated argument. We made up and talked, but never set definite plans for saturday.
While holding each other I asked if she heard back from married man about watching us. She said no. I said I didnt think he would go through with it. She said she might have found another guy, but he wants to paricipate. He is a swinger, but from far away (Charlotte), and described himself as 'bi-curious'. I told her I had no desire to be with a man sexually. She said she told him that, and he said he had only given and received oral from another guy while in a 3-some with a woman. I said no, not doing that. I proposed 'what if he had a woman with him that was willing to meet?' She said she wasnt sure if he was married or had a fiance, gf or what. I said instead of being watched, we could meet him and his lady friend, then exchange with each other, go to different rooms, do our thing, then get back with each other. I told her we were both on the dating site to meet other people to have sex with, this would take care of both of us in one trip and allow us to be together. She said she liked the idea and would check with him. He is a very muscular guy and she said she found him attractive.
Today we texted on her way to meet the guy for the date with her friend. I asked about married man. He hasn't responded. I asked about the guy from charlotte, she said he is very much into meeting her. I asked if she told him about possibly doing the 4-way, she suddenly got mad and said she wasn't there to provide hook ups for me. I said I only asked because it would give us a chance to do this together and last night it seemed to turn her on. I dropped the topic and told her to be careful tonight. She continued to be angry, saying I only wanted her for sex and nothing else. I rebutted with several instances where I've helped her with things, spent time with her, and we did things as a couple that did not involve sex. She couldnt refute this, but did say, 'i think I picked the wrong time to love you.' I told her I wanted to be her boyfriend, and wanted to be with her for a long time to come, but that we could still leave things open to see others. She said I'd eventually leave her when I found someone that 'really rocked me', i told her that woman was her. She then said she had to go, they were about to meet the guys.
Just an update on the other guys she's told me she's talked to on the dating site:
the professor- has not responded to her in a few days
the guy she was to meet last friday when she locked her keys in her car and couldnt go has blocked her msgs
guy #1- came over monday night, they had sex, ended up dong anal sex. She said after taking me back there, she knew she could take him.
guy #2- she still texts and sometimes talks to him on phone, but she says still no plans to meet with him again. She did not like the sex with him, but yet still stays in contact with him
Gary- a guy on the site that she really likes, but says he wants long term and exclusivity with her. She says she does not want either of those things with anyone right now
She said there are at least another 4 guys that msg her that are looking for 'intimate encounters'.
after tuesday not being able to talk with one another too much, i told her wednesday i had a date with a woman from the dating site that we're on. i told her i wasnt sure if i should go, but she told me to. so i went and met Sara. We had a good time and later came back to my place and had sex.
Thursday i told LeeAnn what happened. She said unlike me, she did not need to know details and that she assumed we would have sex anyway. I said I didnt assume that and it almost didnt happen. she again got frustrated and said she didnt need to know that i fucked Sara. I told her we should hang out and talk thurs night, she said ok but she had to go shopping first. She did not come back until 10pm, i left to go to her place.
I brought her the shoes I bought her to match her sexy outfits she'd bought a couple weeks back when we were together, a pair of very sexy black high heels about 4.5 inches high. She loved them. I suggested she model them with the red fishnets that i didnt get to see. She came back out and we fucked twice like crazy. She looked so hot.
We then talked about our weekend plans. We had a date for saturday, but when I asked her out a week or so ago, i didnt realize it was for the same night as a party a co-worker was throwing. I mentioned this tuesday, she said we could go out earlier then i could go to the party, she didnt want to go because a friend of hers didnt want to go. Well, that changed to we could go out that afternoon. I said i couldnt because i had my child that afternoon. I asked why we couldnt keep our date like planned.
She then explained that she was going out of town friday night, like she mentioned on tuesday, because her friend was meeting someone. They planned to stay at her friend's moms house, come back saturday. She has hair and nails to get done sat afternoon. We could meet that afternoon, that night she was going out with her friend.
I asked why she was cancelling our date, she said that originally her friend was meeting a guy friday, but now it was a double date and she was to meet his brother. If things went well, they may come back with them saturday, and they would all go out saturday night. If the guys didnt come back with them, her and her friend planned to go out saturday night.
I told her this was against one of our maxims: that we keep the plans we make with each other. She said she was sorry, but her friend put a lot of pressure on her and she couldn't tell her no. She said she was sorry, but she did step aside and let me go out with Sara the night before. This led to a heated argument. We made up and talked, but never set definite plans for saturday.
While holding each other I asked if she heard back from married man about watching us. She said no. I said I didnt think he would go through with it. She said she might have found another guy, but he wants to paricipate. He is a swinger, but from far away (Charlotte), and described himself as 'bi-curious'. I told her I had no desire to be with a man sexually. She said she told him that, and he said he had only given and received oral from another guy while in a 3-some with a woman. I said no, not doing that. I proposed 'what if he had a woman with him that was willing to meet?' She said she wasnt sure if he was married or had a fiance, gf or what. I said instead of being watched, we could meet him and his lady friend, then exchange with each other, go to different rooms, do our thing, then get back with each other. I told her we were both on the dating site to meet other people to have sex with, this would take care of both of us in one trip and allow us to be together. She said she liked the idea and would check with him. He is a very muscular guy and she said she found him attractive.
Today we texted on her way to meet the guy for the date with her friend. I asked about married man. He hasn't responded. I asked about the guy from charlotte, she said he is very much into meeting her. I asked if she told him about possibly doing the 4-way, she suddenly got mad and said she wasn't there to provide hook ups for me. I said I only asked because it would give us a chance to do this together and last night it seemed to turn her on. I dropped the topic and told her to be careful tonight. She continued to be angry, saying I only wanted her for sex and nothing else. I rebutted with several instances where I've helped her with things, spent time with her, and we did things as a couple that did not involve sex. She couldnt refute this, but did say, 'i think I picked the wrong time to love you.' I told her I wanted to be her boyfriend, and wanted to be with her for a long time to come, but that we could still leave things open to see others. She said I'd eventually leave her when I found someone that 'really rocked me', i told her that woman was her. She then said she had to go, they were about to meet the guys.
Just an update on the other guys she's told me she's talked to on the dating site:
the professor- has not responded to her in a few days
the guy she was to meet last friday when she locked her keys in her car and couldnt go has blocked her msgs
guy #1- came over monday night, they had sex, ended up dong anal sex. She said after taking me back there, she knew she could take him.
guy #2- she still texts and sometimes talks to him on phone, but she says still no plans to meet with him again. She did not like the sex with him, but yet still stays in contact with him
Gary- a guy on the site that she really likes, but says he wants long term and exclusivity with her. She says she does not want either of those things with anyone right now
She said there are at least another 4 guys that msg her that are looking for 'intimate encounters'.
Quick text from her earlier this morning. She said they met the guys, but she did not have sex with him, her first date that didn't end up with her having sex. I'm not sure why, haven't had a chance to talk with her. Don't know what happened with her friend and the guy she met. I'm thinking the 'staying at friend's mom's house' part may have been a lie, as they drove home, alone, very late last night and didn't get in til 6am.
Brief phone call this afternoon; our plans together are cancelled. We might meet up after her and her friends close down one of the local clubs. She said she'll call if we can meet.
Brief phone call this afternoon; our plans together are cancelled. We might meet up after her and her friends close down one of the local clubs. She said she'll call if we can meet.
she's out getting fucked right now
LeeAnn texted several times saturday night while I went to a party a friend was throwing. Some girls came by the party and when they left, a couple guys were asking what their hurry was, and they said they were going to a club, and actually meeting one of LeeAnn's friends. I suspected this was the club she was going to. One of the guys remarked that it was a "black club", but the girl said it wasn't, just that they only play hip hop and R&B music and it was the only all dancing club around. LeeAnn later confirmed she was at this club with a text msg. I wondered if I was going to hear from her, finally about 230am she texted and said she was taking her friend home, then would be over at my place. I left the party to go home. If anything happened with her at the club, she did not tell me about it.
LeeAnn got in about 330, and we quickly went upstairs and fucked like crazy. I pulled out and shot a load on her beautiful tits. We fucked again, this time I came in her.
Afterwards we talked about her date the previous night. The guy is older than her, and she said was a total 'good guy'. She said she had fun, maybe the best date she'd been on. I was a little hurt by this, since I thought our date a couple weeks ago was pretty damn good. She said nothing happened because he was a complete good guy. I didnt ask how things went with her friend that met his friend, but she said they'd probably end up seeing each other again, and they might be coming to visit sunday afternoon. I had my child the next 2 nights, so this kept up with her trend of setting up 'meetings' when I was unavailable. I told her I was starting to feel more and more like one of her internet guys, especially since she broke our date to go out with her friends, then ended up 'booty calling' me. She said 'being a booty call is still pretty good, right?' I didnt say anything. She talked some about Gary, how apparently he is a fairly religious guy, and tells her she is doing all the wrong things with her life and making all the wrong choices, and that one bad choice could ruin the rest f her life. I told her he was an idiot and did not understand her situation as well as I did. We went to sleep. We woke up, fucked again, and she left to go shopping with her friends.
At work today, we talked briefly about some things that had went on. Turns out that guy #1 has now moved on from her and is now trying to bed her sister. She brought up getting angry at me about asking about the charlotte guy that a swinger. She said part of it was that guy #1 has moved on from her, and she is only left with 2 guys in her 'rotation'; guy #2 and married man. She said she didnt want to be with either of them again as neither were very satisfying in bed. That leaves her with me, Mr K (the guy she cheated on her husband with), and 2 new possibilities: the Charlotte guy that's a swinger, and another internet guy she's yet to meet. We talked about our fight friday evening and she completely misunderstood me, thinking I wanted her to set up a woman through Charlotte guy to have sex with. After work we texted several times, in which she indicated Charlotte guy basically wants to take her to a swing party, fuck her, then let her choose another guy to fuck, and keep fucking different guys until she's done. (Now I'm scared shitless, as this is the goal that I want to get to with her eventually!) I asked her "so, really, you're not letting me explore this side with you, as we once agreed to, is that the case?" Her next text said to call her about 830pm.
I called, and she said she was driving, on her way to a 'booty call'. I asked if it was Mr K. She said no, this was a new guy that had just messaged her that evening on the dating site and he lives about an hour away. She also said she was disappointed to have not heard from married man about watching us fuck. I told her I thought last week that we would not hear from him and that's why I asked her to go ahead to ask charlotte guy about meeting for a 4-some. I explained again what I was asking for, and that I was asking for it because I thought it turned her on tremendously, and was thrilled when she selected me to fuck her when married man wanted to watch, and was hoping she would select me again. She said she could not handle going to a swing party with me because she had feeling for me, and would be afraid to lose me to someone else I met. I told her this would be a very controlled environment where it really is only about the sex, and you leave with the partner you brought there, as opposed to me meeting women on the internet where they were actual dates.
She said that she was scared that I would like Sara, the girl I slept with from the dating site last wednesday, better than her. I told her not to worry. She then went on about how sex for her wasn't always good and how after guy #2 she got lucky when guy #1 showed up later to "finish her off" as she said; and how she had to call me to do the same thing after married man came over. "but" she said, "for a guy, it's good everytime, I couldn't handle something like that with yu in front of a bunch of people, but i could with charlotte guy because it's just about sex". I told her this was not fair to me, especially since we had once agreed to explore this side of ourselves, starting with married man watching us fuck but not participating.
I also told her that she wasn't understanding many things about when a guy has sex. I explained that when I'm with her, it's different. I go all out to keep her satisfied. But, since she didn't want details about my night with Sara, she couldnt know what happened. But, I told her, "it was different. Not like being with you at all. And that's a compliment to you". She said she would get details later, and she would message charlotte guy on the dating site about a possible 4-some. I told her if for any reason she wasn't satisfied, or if the woman I was with didnt satisfy me, I would walk in on her and charlotte guy, and join in to make sure she enjoyed it (a fantasy of hers is to be with 2 men at once). She said only problem with that is that charlotte guy is bi, which scares her as to how far exactly he has went with another man. I told her if he played it straight, and only went after her and not me, I'd do her threesome. She said she'd like that, she would msg him, but right now she had to go because she just arrived at the 'booty call's house (it was about an hour drive).
This relationship seems to be changing daily in our roles and what she wants. I can tell you that for her to up and leave to drive an hour to meet this guy tonight, at his place, sight unseen (I'm sure they traded pics on the 'net, but she usually meets these guys in public the first time before deciding to fuck them), he must have really, really pushed her buttons to turn her on.
She said she would text when she left his place to let me know she was ok. We got off the phone about 915pm. It's now 1245am, and still no text.
We're supposed to have a night in tomorrow night to watch some movies. I'm going out with Sara wednesday again. I'm hoping to see LeeAnn thursday night, as my child will be back with me through all of the upcoming weekend. No doubt LeeAnn will have more suitors lined up for herself by then.
The pics i've included are from our date night 2 weeks ago. one is her in lingerie, the other is taken while we fucked and she had a butt plug in with a small vibe stuck into the hollow end of the plug. She came in buckets that night.
LeeAnn texted several times saturday night while I went to a party a friend was throwing. Some girls came by the party and when they left, a couple guys were asking what their hurry was, and they said they were going to a club, and actually meeting one of LeeAnn's friends. I suspected this was the club she was going to. One of the guys remarked that it was a "black club", but the girl said it wasn't, just that they only play hip hop and R&B music and it was the only all dancing club around. LeeAnn later confirmed she was at this club with a text msg. I wondered if I was going to hear from her, finally about 230am she texted and said she was taking her friend home, then would be over at my place. I left the party to go home. If anything happened with her at the club, she did not tell me about it.
LeeAnn got in about 330, and we quickly went upstairs and fucked like crazy. I pulled out and shot a load on her beautiful tits. We fucked again, this time I came in her.
Afterwards we talked about her date the previous night. The guy is older than her, and she said was a total 'good guy'. She said she had fun, maybe the best date she'd been on. I was a little hurt by this, since I thought our date a couple weeks ago was pretty damn good. She said nothing happened because he was a complete good guy. I didnt ask how things went with her friend that met his friend, but she said they'd probably end up seeing each other again, and they might be coming to visit sunday afternoon. I had my child the next 2 nights, so this kept up with her trend of setting up 'meetings' when I was unavailable. I told her I was starting to feel more and more like one of her internet guys, especially since she broke our date to go out with her friends, then ended up 'booty calling' me. She said 'being a booty call is still pretty good, right?' I didnt say anything. She talked some about Gary, how apparently he is a fairly religious guy, and tells her she is doing all the wrong things with her life and making all the wrong choices, and that one bad choice could ruin the rest f her life. I told her he was an idiot and did not understand her situation as well as I did. We went to sleep. We woke up, fucked again, and she left to go shopping with her friends.
At work today, we talked briefly about some things that had went on. Turns out that guy #1 has now moved on from her and is now trying to bed her sister. She brought up getting angry at me about asking about the charlotte guy that a swinger. She said part of it was that guy #1 has moved on from her, and she is only left with 2 guys in her 'rotation'; guy #2 and married man. She said she didnt want to be with either of them again as neither were very satisfying in bed. That leaves her with me, Mr K (the guy she cheated on her husband with), and 2 new possibilities: the Charlotte guy that's a swinger, and another internet guy she's yet to meet. We talked about our fight friday evening and she completely misunderstood me, thinking I wanted her to set up a woman through Charlotte guy to have sex with. After work we texted several times, in which she indicated Charlotte guy basically wants to take her to a swing party, fuck her, then let her choose another guy to fuck, and keep fucking different guys until she's done. (Now I'm scared shitless, as this is the goal that I want to get to with her eventually!) I asked her "so, really, you're not letting me explore this side with you, as we once agreed to, is that the case?" Her next text said to call her about 830pm.
I called, and she said she was driving, on her way to a 'booty call'. I asked if it was Mr K. She said no, this was a new guy that had just messaged her that evening on the dating site and he lives about an hour away. She also said she was disappointed to have not heard from married man about watching us fuck. I told her I thought last week that we would not hear from him and that's why I asked her to go ahead to ask charlotte guy about meeting for a 4-some. I explained again what I was asking for, and that I was asking for it because I thought it turned her on tremendously, and was thrilled when she selected me to fuck her when married man wanted to watch, and was hoping she would select me again. She said she could not handle going to a swing party with me because she had feeling for me, and would be afraid to lose me to someone else I met. I told her this would be a very controlled environment where it really is only about the sex, and you leave with the partner you brought there, as opposed to me meeting women on the internet where they were actual dates.
She said that she was scared that I would like Sara, the girl I slept with from the dating site last wednesday, better than her. I told her not to worry. She then went on about how sex for her wasn't always good and how after guy #2 she got lucky when guy #1 showed up later to "finish her off" as she said; and how she had to call me to do the same thing after married man came over. "but" she said, "for a guy, it's good everytime, I couldn't handle something like that with yu in front of a bunch of people, but i could with charlotte guy because it's just about sex". I told her this was not fair to me, especially since we had once agreed to explore this side of ourselves, starting with married man watching us fuck but not participating.
I also told her that she wasn't understanding many things about when a guy has sex. I explained that when I'm with her, it's different. I go all out to keep her satisfied. But, since she didn't want details about my night with Sara, she couldnt know what happened. But, I told her, "it was different. Not like being with you at all. And that's a compliment to you". She said she would get details later, and she would message charlotte guy on the dating site about a possible 4-some. I told her if for any reason she wasn't satisfied, or if the woman I was with didnt satisfy me, I would walk in on her and charlotte guy, and join in to make sure she enjoyed it (a fantasy of hers is to be with 2 men at once). She said only problem with that is that charlotte guy is bi, which scares her as to how far exactly he has went with another man. I told her if he played it straight, and only went after her and not me, I'd do her threesome. She said she'd like that, she would msg him, but right now she had to go because she just arrived at the 'booty call's house (it was about an hour drive).
This relationship seems to be changing daily in our roles and what she wants. I can tell you that for her to up and leave to drive an hour to meet this guy tonight, at his place, sight unseen (I'm sure they traded pics on the 'net, but she usually meets these guys in public the first time before deciding to fuck them), he must have really, really pushed her buttons to turn her on.
She said she would text when she left his place to let me know she was ok. We got off the phone about 915pm. It's now 1245am, and still no text.
We're supposed to have a night in tomorrow night to watch some movies. I'm going out with Sara wednesday again. I'm hoping to see LeeAnn thursday night, as my child will be back with me through all of the upcoming weekend. No doubt LeeAnn will have more suitors lined up for herself by then.
The pics i've included are from our date night 2 weeks ago. one is her in lingerie, the other is taken while we fucked and she had a butt plug in with a small vibe stuck into the hollow end of the plug. She came in buckets that night.
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Dontcare,
My mind reels with all these different folks and fucks and cummin's an' goin's.
I have no idea how you keep track of it all yourself.
Regarding the question you posed at the end of your initial post:
I gather this is no longer of any great concern to you. Is that the right interpretation?
—Custer
My mind reels with all these different folks and fucks and cummin's an' goin's.
I have no idea how you keep track of it all yourself. Regarding the question you posed at the end of your initial post:
dontcare2share said:
I gather this is no longer of any great concern to you. Is that the right interpretation?
—Custer
Custer,
Yes, it is a lot to keep up with. She herself has said i keep up with it better than she does. Some of it I find out from her days, sometimes as much as a week later. Which for instance, I found out last thursday when we were together that the night before we had anal sex for the first time, she had anal sex with guy#1. She also said he is very rough with her in bed, but she still said I was a bigger and better lover. Point is, I didnt find any of this out until over a week after it happened.
We didnt get to talk at work about what happened last night, I assume we will at some point tonight. SO no details on that yet.
As for the last part, any advice is certainly welcome. Comments on what to expect, what to look for from her, suggestions for me to try, all of that is welcome for sure. But I've thought maybe this thread should be moved into the 'cuckold confessions' forum since it seems to be mainly me describing what's happening as we move along, and answering a few questions along the way.
Yes, it is a lot to keep up with. She herself has said i keep up with it better than she does. Some of it I find out from her days, sometimes as much as a week later. Which for instance, I found out last thursday when we were together that the night before we had anal sex for the first time, she had anal sex with guy#1. She also said he is very rough with her in bed, but she still said I was a bigger and better lover. Point is, I didnt find any of this out until over a week after it happened.
We didnt get to talk at work about what happened last night, I assume we will at some point tonight. SO no details on that yet.
As for the last part, any advice is certainly welcome. Comments on what to expect, what to look for from her, suggestions for me to try, all of that is welcome for sure. But I've thought maybe this thread should be moved into the 'cuckold confessions' forum since it seems to be mainly me describing what's happening as we move along, and answering a few questions along the way.
