Need advice on situation

[jimtakingplung]

Tuesday – I came home early while she was out with a friend and cooked us dinner. We later had some fun of our own. I got caught up on everything afterwards. She admitted that it was little weird talking about some of this. She said she didn't want to tell me somethings. But we agreed she would.

We also had a talk about how lucky she was. Her words not mine. She said a lot of the ladies at her work were always talking about how they were stuck in loveless marriages. No love.

She asked me if I was ok with all the time she is out. I said ya. You are happy right. She said ya and that makes me feel bad to. She said she didn't want to hurt me in any way going out all the time. I said I want you to be happy. If that means you going out every night for the rest of our lives I am ok with that. I told her I knew she missed the college life and her friends. She kinda gave me a grin and said everynight? I said ya. She said you are full of it. I said I am serious. I said I will prove it. I said why don't you stay gone for a week. Only thing is you have to call me everyday of course.

She said no way. I would miss you to much. I also can't go a week without your loving. I laughed and said you have two boyfriends who can help you with that. She laughed and said not like you can. I said how do you know if you haven't given them a chance to try. She just gave me a whatever. I asked her if she wanted to go further with either one of them. She said I don't want to talk about this. I said all I am asking is for you to be honest. She said ya I have wanted that. You know when we are making out.

I asked her what has stopped her if she wants to. She said she didn't think it was right and wouldn't let it get that far. She said it was also bothering her when she does other things with them, but was having fun and is letting it go. But, it still bothers her. I told her no matter what she ever did I would love her and not to make a decision because of me. I just want her to be happy no matter what the price. She said she loved me and knew that.

I again brought up my way to prove it to her. I told her to pack a bag tomorrow and not come back till Wednesday morning. That is when we are leaving to go to her parents for Thanksgiving. She said she didn't need that she knew. I said well to bad. I was going to prove it. She said ok she would call Joy when we got through talking. She seemed very happy even though she didn't say it.

We also had a chat about Jared. She said he is the same old Jared. She said it was good to get caught up with him. I asked if she was going to go out with him. She said no, but they are going to have lunch one day probably. She asked me if I was ok with it. I said yes but she knew I wasn't completely comfortable. She said you know you don't have to worry about him. I love you. I chose you, not him. I said I know. She had told me in the past that she liked being with him sexually.

Wednesday – I got up and made her breakfast in bed. She was happy about that. It was just toast and juice but it paid off nicely. We had sex and then some pillow talk. I asked her if she got off. She said no not really this time. I knew that sometimes she will not. I started rubbing her and got her off twice before she stopped me. She told me I was the best. I said obviously not if I can't get you off every time. She said it was normal. I said brought up some of her past boyfriends and she told me to stop. I was the only one for her.

She got up and went to shower. I snuck in with her. She said she was hoping I would. She tried to get me hard again but I couldn't It usually takes me a while to get ready to go again. We finished up and she went to get ready. She packed her bag while her hair was drying. I swear she is the sexiest person I know when she is in towel. She knows that and will sit around in one all day to pick at me.

She packed her bag and I came back when she was doing her makeup. She also lotioned her legs and I asked to help out. I lotioned everything. She told me to stop. I was getting her worked up. I kept getting her to the point of cumming and stopping. I never did finish. She was little mad. I then told her that she would just have to get someone else to get her off. She said fine and looked pissed. I looked in her bag and she caught me. She said get out of there. Then gave me a playful slap. I said sorry. I then said she you are going to be gone so long maybe you should take the whole box. I put it in her bag.

She got ready to leave and came to the living room to say goodbye. She told me again that this was not necessary. I told her I knew but I wanted her to have this. She said I was going to spoil her and she might get to wanting this more. I said then you can have it. She gave me a kiss and left. She looked nice. Just a pair of jeans and sweatshirt.

I also took her wedding ring to the shop during my lunch break. I am having the stone replaced. We are better off than when I got it. I wanted to do that for her Christmas. I am also hoping to see how long she it takes her to notice it is gone.

She went to lunch with Jerod. I didn't know she was going to do that. Already had it planned. They talked for a while, but he had to go back to work. He asked her to lunch again. She said yes. She told me that over the phone.

 

[Ballspanking]

Hey Jim,

Tell us something, please.

If every time you ask your wife if anything 'more' has happened, and she just avoids the subject and tells you she's uncomfortable talking about that... And, given she has spent numerous nights away from home (all nighters), and has admitted to touching Caleb's cock, and spending the night with him in the same bed, etc., etc.

Don't you think it is obvious and evident that she is fucking these guys, and just not telling you because she isn't comfortable with it?

Human nature, man. A woman doesn't spend multiple nights away with 2 or 3 different guys, and NOT fuck them!

 

[jimtakingplung]

messing around

She says messing around was just kissing and touching. I am hoping to get more info on our way her parents for Thanksgiving.

 

[jimtakingplung]

Ok, I had someone email me an idea for a christmas present. They said I should make her up little cards like. Free sex no questions asked with her boyfriend.

I was hoping you could give me some ideas on this and if you think it would be a good idea.

I look forward to all the ideas.

 

[Ballspanking]

It sounds like your wife is well aware of when and where to play extra-maritally, I don't know if blatant hints from you would be well received, perhaps I'm wrong. I think subtle persuasion in her manner of dress and flirtation might make her feel more at ease in proceeding as a HotWife.

 

[jimtakingplung]

Wednesday - She went to Joy's and they stayed in that night. She told Joy she wanted to stay with her. She told her I was going to be out of town for work. She said Joy was glad to have her.

Also had a run in with a guy at work that thought he saw Amber out one night with a guy. He said he didn't think it was her by the end. She was with another guy. I told him she was at home that night, but thanks for looking out for me. He said anytime.

Thursday – Amber stayed in at Joy's again. She called and I told her that was not what the two weeks was for. She laughed and said how much do I have to go out. I said every night if that is what you want. She said ok and would make sure she got out tomorrow.

 

[okdeacon]

Have Faith She Will

Thanks Jim, Please keep us posted. Hope she gets it for you. okdeacon

 

[Scottneedsadvice]

Things sound like they are going good for you Jim.

I like the idea of giving her passes. Here are a couple of ideas.

1. Pass for a free fuck session with anyone she wants.
2. Pass for a week or month away from home.
3. Pass for a fake seperation. Time is up to her on how long it last.
4. Pass to have a boyfriends baby. (Probably little past what you may want)

 

[jimtakingplung]

Update

Friday – Joy had to work and Amber went to lunch with Jared again. She was really hesitant to tell me anything about it. He took her to a place they use to go to a lot. She said he had to get back to work. She tried to move on but I kept asking. She admitted he asked her out for drinks. I asked what she said. She said yes. I also asked her if he knew she was married. She said no. He had seen her out with her boyfriend. It was the first time I had heard her say that. She tried to cover it up and say you know what I meant. I said ya I know what you meant. She gave me a little slap. She said he asked her to have drinks before she could say something.

That night she went out with Joy and Matt. She wound up staying with Matt. She didn't go into details about anything. He did see the condoms and made a few comments. She never explained how she got out of it.

Saturday – She went back to Joys to get ready for a social at Caleb's frat. She said they had a long talk about the guys. She said she didn't feel comfortable talking about their conversation. I told her I understood.

I kept asking her specific questions to see what they talked about. She admitted that Joy thought she wasn't treating the guys right. She thinks she should go further with them. Orally was her big push. She said she was fine with where it was.

She went with Caleb to the formal. She wore one of my favorite dresses. It is short and black. She never wears a bra with it. I have gotten her to go pantiless with it but I doubt she did. They had a good time. She stayed with him. She said they fooled around. I asked if she found out his actual size by measuring him yet. She had said she wanted to. She said kinda. I know where it went to on my arm. I went and got a piece of paper to extimate it. It was over 8.5. I was shocked and she said I knew it was big but not that long inch wise. It was between 9 and 10. She showed me how thick with her hand. I asked her how she figured that out. She just got red and said to hush. It looked just shy of coke can.

I laughed and made the joke that he must be black. She just got quite. I said is he. She said kinda. I was shocked. She had dated a few black guys before we met. She said he is mixed. She said he looked more brown. She said that is why he is shy about everything. He never dated much because neither group accepted him really. She asked me if that was ok. I said of course. I am not racist. She gave me a kiss and went back to watching tv.

Sunday – She hung out with Caleb then got a shower and went to meet Jared. She said she told Caleb it was one of her girlfriends she was meeting. They had drinks at a pretty nice place. Jared has taken over his fathers company and well off. He has a lexus and dresses really nice she says. He wanted her to go back to his apartment,but she said she was suppose to go to Joy's. He said that was ok, but he wanted to take her one other place on the way back. He drove them to the lake they use to go to when they were dating. She said he kissed her few times. He was little aggressive but she told him that she needed to go.

Monday – She had lunch with Caleb and then watched a movie at Joy's with Matt and her boyfriend. She said Matt couldn't stay and had to go home after the movie.

Tuesday – She had lunch with Jared. He wanted her to go out again. She said nothing more really happened. He did take her to a nice place though.

She went to Caleb's and stayed the night. She said they didn't really do much.

Wednesday – She got home this morning and we talked about everything. I asked her if she had a new boyfriend. She just laughed and said whatever. I made mention of it again and she said technically he is an old boyfriend. She said it was good to hang out with him again though. She asked again if I was ok with it. I said I was.

She then started packing for our trip. She had to go back to caleb's for her makeup bag. She had forgotten it. Once she gets back we are leaving.

I hope everyone has a good thanksgiving.

 

[cuckoldax]

Yo jim, sounds like your girl is cheating on you and you're left sitting at home by yourself, no details, no nothing. Her not telling you about everything kind of negates the whole experience..... well thats just my opinion

 

[Ballspanking]

How many nights in other men's houses does she have to spend before you wake up to the fact she is screwing them? And you.

I realize you are loath to admitting it, because you have complete faith in her, but a grown woman just doesn't do these things (let alone serially and repeatedly) and not fuck. That's dreamland.

I hope you develop sincere communication between you, because so far you refuse to believe you are in the dark about it, and she is less than forthcoming.

Having said that..., if that works for you, who the hell am I to knock it, right?

 

[OneForSure]

I'm afraid I must agree. All signs point to your wife having sex. How often does a woman find out the size of a man's cock and NOT have sex? It's unfortunate that she's not sharing with you, but at least you know that she's having fun. Now you just gotta get her to tell you!

Good luck!

 

[jimtakingplung]

More open

Wednesday – She got back and I knew something was wrong. She was rushing to go get a shower. I said I needed her help with getting something in the car. She said after her shower. I went to the room and looked for her clothes. I found her sweatshirt and it looked like there was cum and lube on the right sleeve near the wrist. I was speechless.

We had a long drive so we started talking and got a lot out. I asked about going back to Caleb's. She said she just ran in and ran out. I said I know you are lying I can tell. She said she hated that about me. She said it was nothing. I said then tell me what happened. She said they made out just a bit. I said you are still lying. She stopped and just broke out crying. I said what is wrong. She said I am sorry. I don't want to talk about this. It took about ten minutes but I got her to calm down. I told her no matter what she had done it was ok. She said they were making out and he wanted her to get him off before she left. She said she jacked him off. She was on her knees and jacked him off. She said she didn't use her mouth on him. She did swallow what went in her mouth. She said most did but some got in her hair. That is why she wanted to shower. So I didn't see it.

I told her I was ok with it and figured it and more was happening. She said she felt like a ***** now. I said why he is your boyfriend. I said it in a joking manner. She gave a little laugh. I asked if it was first time and she looked like she would cry again. I laughed and said if you cry everytime I asked something this is going to be a long ride. She laughed again and got a tissue. She said no it wasnt. She said it started few weeks earlier when her friend was getting fucked in the bed next to them. She jacked him then.

I said what about Matt. She said the same. She also admitted that was probably what was wrong with Joy and her boyfriend when they came over for cookout. They had saw her on her knees that morning. Joy caught her first then showed her boyfriend. She talked with Joy about it after wards. Part of the reason Joy told her to go ahead and suck it she might as well. I said she is pretty much right. She said I guess but I just think it is a line I don't want to cross. I said so you have never had them in your mouth. She said well kinda. I licked the tip. She was really shy telling me all this. I told her she could always be honest with me. I would never get mad at her.

I asked her if she had jerked Jared. She said no not yet. Then realized how she said it and said she was sorry. I laughed and said it was alright. She admitted she wanted to.

She also admitted to riding both of the guys to climaxes for both. This is something we do to. She will straddle me and just rub her pussy up and down the length of me. She always gets off quick like that. She said Caleb really liked that. Matt to but he was little to aggressive trying to screw her when they did it. I said what do you expect.

She asked me if I was mad. I said no. I am just glad she is happy. I said I honestly expected more. She again gave me what do you think I am. I said no but you have been dating them for over a month now. I said you also have the condoms. She said she is just worried she will hurt our marriage. I said there is nothing you could do to make me stop loving you. That got me a blow job driving down the road.

We also had a talk about whether she would rather be with someone who is well endowed. She said I was big enough. I said that was not what I asked. She admitted she liked it in the past with old boyfriends.

I asked about the three current guys. She said all were little bigger than me. Actually Matt was close to me. Jared was shorter than Caleb. I asked her which one she would rather be with. She was pretty quick to say Caleb. She said she really likes him. She said if we were not together she could see having a relationship with him. She didn't say it like that but I got that from it. She made sure I knew it would never happen while we were together though. I told her a boyfriend relationship might do her some good. She looked at me strange. She said she is scared where it might lead. I said I was willing to deal with it no matter what happened if that is what she wanted.

I said how do you know it will never happen. You never thought you would be dating three guys while you were married. She said ya but pretty sure on this. I told her I loved her and to just enjoy this. She kept telling me how much she loved me.

We finally got to her parents and things went fine. Just boring family talk.

Thursday – Thanksgiving dinner. We were going to stay the night but Amber said she wanted to leave after dinner if I felt like driving. She said she would make it up to me on the way home. I of course said sure. By the time we left she was ***** for lack of better terms.

We got down the interstate and she saw an adult store and said lets go. I wasn't going to turn this down. It was pretty uneventful in the store. Lots of shady people. We wound up getting a porno and I talked her into getting a 9 inch suction cup dildo and 2 big lubes. She was horny when we left so I told her to get the dildo out. She was really shy about doing but I finally got her into it. I told her to see how much she could get in. She wound up getting almost all in. She just raised her dress and lubed it up. I was surprised how she went at it. I started to ask what she was thinking about but didn't want her to stop. She finally got off. She laid there a while with the seat back and me telling her how hot that was. Next think I know she is asleep with the Dildo still in her. I just pulled her dress back down.

When we got home I took her up to bed. I took off her dress and saw the dildo was still in her. I was bad but I left it there. I wanted to see what she said in the morning.

Friday - When she got up she rolled over and then realized it was there. I was barely awake but I heard her laughing. I asked her what it was. She said I forgot something when I put her to bed. She pulled it out and it made a sucking noise. She made me look. It just stayed open kinda.

She asked me if I wanted seconds. I did and it was little odd. She was a lot looser than normal. She didn't get off and said it was because of the dildo.

 

[Hunter_Jackson]

Intimacy regained

Jim:

The drive to your parents for Thanksgiving was a very important step in your marriage, You recaptured the intimacy with Amber. You were able to discuss the nuances of her dating experiences while assuring her that your marriage remains strong. Indeed, it is only because of this intimate sharing that the strength of the marriage can be maintained. When the next opportunity presents itself, explain that the reason that you are okay with her dating is because of her honesty and openness. By sharing with you, you become a part of her activities. Any threat of jealousy will be extinguished.

As to the specifics, I - unlike many others on this forum - am not hell bent on getting Amber to spread her legs as soon as possible. I find her behavior with her "boyfriends" to be entirely consistent and down-right sexy. She should move at her own pace. Once she feels comfotable in sharing with you, she will be more at ease with Matt, Caleb and Jared.

I think you should (have have, sort of) explain that it is quite natural for a girlfriend to be attentive to the physical needs of her boyfriends. I think this was the subject of Joy's conversation with Amber. Physical intimacy is part of dating, and she needn't feel guilty about the pleasures given or received.

The dildo is a very useful development. Given its size, it will cause Amber to wonder even more about the joy of experiencing someone with greater endowment (Caleb, in particular). You might mention that the looseness and openess that she expeiences with the dildo is probably what she will feel after a real experience with someone larger. It wouldn't hurt to remind her that while she (or you) controls the pace and depth of the dildo, a real lover would be in charge of a real cock and the frenetic thrusting would probably increase the pleasure exponentially. It also wouldn't hurt if you mentioned (and pretended) like you enjoyed how open and loose Amber feels after using the dildo. This might cause her to conclude that a real experience will be a win - win situation for you both.

I applaud you for defending the efforts of Matt, Caleb and Jared to take things further. This is natural for a boyfriend who deeply desires his girlfriend.

I look forward to hearing more. This is the most exciting thread I have read in quite awhile.

Hunter

 

[Ballspanking]

jimtakingplung ,

I think maybe she's beginning to spill the beans..., a little bit at a time, but that's fine, if that's her speed.

Fear not, if she continues spending the night with her boyfriends, she will definitely fuck them (that's understating the obvious), but it will definitely happen.

It would be nice if she felt free to talk with you about it, because she needs all the reassurance and support she can get from you. It sounds like she has some deep morality issues that are keeping her from cutting loose..., maybe..., in time...!

 

[okdeacon]

This Is All Good

Jim what a wonderful and enlightening time you shared with Amber on your trip. She sounds so very sweet and truly a shy loving wife. She has taken the first baby steps to making your desires come true. She is beginning to understand your desires and starting to feel you are truly being honest with her. Very soon she will not be afraid to confide unto you her excitement and the thrill of you letting her date. There will also be three very lucky bfs that will get to enjoy Amber and her sexuality as she decides to let them have their way with her. I have never read of a sweeter wife nor more patient husband on their journey to the Hot Wife experience. When Amber totally understands you are good with this and even wish for it. Your best days are in your future. Thanks for sharing this remarkable adventure with all of us like minded people. Its time for Amber to take the giant step. okdeacon

 

[cuckoldax]

Thanks for all the posts Jim, hope your wife starts to further open up to you and continue to keep the posts comming! Maybe post some pics of this hottie? pictures would be much appreciated

 

[jimtakingplung]

Fri and Sat

Friday - She got up and showered. I had some stuff to do in town so I got ready. I left first and she called me to say she was meeting someone for lunch. Turned out to be Jared. That is why we came back early. She came back about 3 and started to get ready to go out with Joy and Matt.

They all went to diner and then a movie. They went back to matt's for the night. She said nothing more really happened.

Saturday – She came home around 2. She got a shower and I jumped in with her. She had not been in long and said for me to get out. She seemed rushed to get cleaned up. I said what is wrong. She said I just want to get a shower. I dont have time to mess around. I could tell something was wrong. I got out. She came out and said she was sorry.

While she got ready I told her maybe she should take the lube with the condoms. She might need it since Caleb is so big and she will be horny since we didn't get to do anything. She was little pissed and said so you want me to have sex with him. I said it is what you want. She said fine. But I am going out with Jared tonight.

I left the room. I came back and apologized. She said it was ok. I told her I meant it though. If she wanted to she could. She said to stop it.

She looked awesome. She had on a new black dress. Jared was taking her to a really nice restaurant.

 

[Ballspanking]

I think she feels you are pressuring her, and doesn't appreciate it, becuase she is already sleeping with her boyfriends, and doesn't want to be told whom and when to fuck.
She's already in charge.

 

[AngleBaby]

Agreed. Push her on telling you what happens, but don't push her to have any sex.