OK here we have a woman that has and had six children at home three on ssi and she is getting $490.00 a month food stamps and now she has gave birth to 8 more children after her visit to the fertility clinic when or where should we stop this. Should a single mother or a married one with six kids already need to see a fertility clinic for a bunch more of kids. Should the goverment outlaw this with women that already have kids or should we just keep it the way it is so a woman such as Nadya can have 14 kids. What is your thoughts on this myself I do not think after 6 kids at home she needed more married or not. Norm on the bright side of this if you go out and breed her again you are paying for these kids.
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Nadya Suleman
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That just goes to show how are Country is a failure. It leans more to the side of the lazy fuckers in the world.. Half of the people that are on Welfare don't want to work cause there being taken care of. If you can live off that much why would u work???? The should starve and the kids should be adopted by other people. We have friends that are having troubles having kids but they can't afford a Specialist and there Insurance won't cover it.Is that fucked up yes it is... Then we have some worthless bitch that has a shit load of kid VIA VITRO. cause i'm sure she is a whinny bitch no one can handle. So let the State of California raise the kids thats the American way now.....
These days the biggest welfare programs are for the banks, stockbrokers and big business,lol. Coming soon, mortgagors who shouldn't have been buying the houses they did in the first place.
If you're going to bitch about government welfare, get your priorities in order. The few that cheat the individual welfare system don't even begin to compare in taxpayer cost to the corporate scum playing the system.
If you're going to bitch about government welfare, get your priorities in order. The few that cheat the individual welfare system don't even begin to compare in taxpayer cost to the corporate scum playing the system.
Then minute u start talking about "allowing people to have kids" u open the way to oppressing 'undesireables'. We have seen this before in this country with poor women being sterilized without there consent.
Mind u I dont like it when people have so many kids either if they cant support them. And the government is stupid enuff to support them we should change that.
The only intelligent thing that DC mayor Marion Barry ever said was when some woman with 10 kids complained she could not find affordable housing. He asked her why did she have so many kids to begin with.
Mind u I dont like it when people have so many kids either if they cant support them. And the government is stupid enuff to support them we should change that.
The only intelligent thing that DC mayor Marion Barry ever said was when some woman with 10 kids complained she could not find affordable housing. He asked her why did she have so many kids to begin with.
Rightly or wrongly she has become a lightning rod for out of control welfare spending by a major liberal state that happens to be going bankrupt. But then, giving birth to practically an entire little league baseball team will do that.
I believe that here in Mass if you have been on welfare and you come into some money, say, you win the lottery or something, the state sends you a bill for the money back. I would have thought that all states would have had that in place by now.
Suleman is now getting money for appearances, her website donations, and such and she has an agent, a publicist, a spokesperson, hey all the trappings of her 15 minutes of fame. Maybe the state should look at getting some back. But they won't. You have to figure what all those kids will cost the next 21 years.
Sorry Mule Dude but I didn't even date women with kids at home when I was in my 20's and 30's. I sure ain't gonna date a women with 14 kids all under seven years old now that I'm in my 50's.
Norm
I believe that here in Mass if you have been on welfare and you come into some money, say, you win the lottery or something, the state sends you a bill for the money back. I would have thought that all states would have had that in place by now.
Suleman is now getting money for appearances, her website donations, and such and she has an agent, a publicist, a spokesperson, hey all the trappings of her 15 minutes of fame. Maybe the state should look at getting some back. But they won't. You have to figure what all those kids will cost the next 21 years.
Sorry Mule Dude but I didn't even date women with kids at home when I was in my 20's and 30's. I sure ain't gonna date a women with 14 kids all under seven years old now that I'm in my 50's.
Norm
I'm all for population control dude.... the global population is growing at an alarming rate! This is obviously a terrifying version bullying of the welfare system. Her doctor probably thought he'd use her as an example to see if he could get away with this... and if he did he'd go enlist new clients for high fees. Whatever the case we all know that she's unfit to be the parent of any of those 14 kids at his point. If this had happened naturally, meaning if she somehow naturally conceived 6-7-8 kids then this would be one of many examples where a woman's right to choose (the "A" word :nono
would be of good use. Especially considering the same people who oppose abortion don't want to pay for the welfare either...
would be of good use. Especially considering the same people who oppose abortion don't want to pay for the welfare either... muleman said:
blkoralslaveboy said:I'm all for population control dude.... the global population is growing at an alarming rate! This is obviously a terrifying version bullying of the welfare system. Her doctor probably thought he'd use her as an example to see if he could get away with this... and if he did he'd go enlist new clients for high fees. Whatever the case we all know that she's unfit to be the parent of any of those 14 kids at his point. If this had happened naturally, meaning if she somehow naturally conceived 6-7-8 kids then this would be one of many examples where a woman's right to choose (the "A" word :nono
bolded for edification.
and yeah.. "out of control welfare spending is what ruins this country" - seriously.. go to the government websites, where, thanks to the FoIA, info on budgets is freely available.
if you total up all the budgets for all the states/local/federal goverments, and then total up all the money spent on welfare... it comes out to something like 4% of the total.
4%.
That's hardly "out of control welfare spending" - our other spending is already FAR more out of control.
RoSquirts said:
Chasing the American dream...In 2003/4 everyone and his brother were being bombarded by real estate bombardiers and easy financing bombs. It wasn't just talk people were making some serious cash from it! However, a false economy is a false economy so I agree 98% whicha...not that my agreeing matters or anything lol.
Well, the love of money is the root of all evil eh? Maybe so... maybe so. And this new economic stimulus is also a false economy by definition. Kind of like viagra on a 66 year old man. But much a do about nutn... we need it otherwise chaos is around the corner... that's pretty much it.
I also think that those CEO's should be impaled along Wall Street in the style of 14th century slavic societies, but that's just my humble opinion..
What the heck is a Mestizo?? Someone else we are supposed to look down on because of where they were born maybe?? Seems we have gotten away from sex entirely on this board, so I'll wade in (is everyone pissed off about something??)........I'm just overworked, maybe you all are too.
There is a LOT more going on with this nutcase woman that just having a shitload of kids without any ability to pay for them!! She is using up her "settlement from the riot" money to make her self look like some famous actress (can't remember her name) and apparently to pay for fertility treatments. That stuff is NOT cheap, and I doubt welfare covers it anymore....probably used to, but doubt it does now.....so she's got to be using up her "settlement" cash for that and plastic surgery (those lips look so outrageous I was thinking about the old Loony Tune cartoons and how they portrayed Black in them!!).
Something MUCH deeper her than just an out of contro welfare Mom.....this is DEEP psychological stuff, the kind that meks YOU seem crazy because you would even suggest it is possible. Crazy people ALWAYS make sane people LOOK crazy, bucause NO ONE but a nut would do the things they do and if you bust them, YOU seem like the nut.....intil they finally unravel all the way, but by then you have been branded a nut too. This woman is totally certifiably BONKERS!! Of that, there is no doubt. This is no "pregnancy risk" fantasy being acted out........this is insanity with a little pocket change at the extreme. Hubby said that the FIRST time we read about this....I dis's him, saying HE was NUTS (see what I mean!!) and then the REAL story starts coming out piece by piece....and lo and behold he was SPOT ON about this woman.
You can't "punish" her without punishing the kids......this is an OBVIOUS case for mandatory sterilization as she does not have the mental capacity to make sound judgements and there are sleazy Doctors around (especially now that we are moving closer and CLOSER to mandatory free health care for all) that will actually treat someone like this simply because they have the $$ to pay for the treatments, but oh my GAWD I can hear the screaming now if someone actually thought you could steralize someone out of control so as to STOP her from creating more kids SHE can harm!! ANd SHE is doing the harm..........no one else!!
I think the Doctor (s) that were involved in this should be barred and have their licenses revoked as WELL as ****** to set up a "fund" to support these kids...after all, THEY are the real "fathers", the sperm donor didn't even get it wet!!! Wouldn't be a baby there except for the scummy trash Doctors that did this for her. I think a fine of say, 10 times what they were paid for the treatments might get their attention if we don't remove their licenses but I like the idea of BOTH!! And they can take turns monthly (as they will be unemployed now) "fathering" their children....change shitty diapers, feed them at all hours of the day and night, change MORE shitty diapers, and feed them again!! And then clean the damned house too plus spend some "quality" time with the Mom....I bet THAT would be intellectually stimulating!!
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.......but this isn't about someone wnating to have lots of kids. This is about someone with MAJOR psychological issues and NOT being able to make sound judgements and the scummy Doctors that will take her money.
my 2 cents.....JMNBABE
There is a LOT more going on with this nutcase woman that just having a shitload of kids without any ability to pay for them!! She is using up her "settlement from the riot" money to make her self look like some famous actress (can't remember her name) and apparently to pay for fertility treatments. That stuff is NOT cheap, and I doubt welfare covers it anymore....probably used to, but doubt it does now.....so she's got to be using up her "settlement" cash for that and plastic surgery (those lips look so outrageous I was thinking about the old Loony Tune cartoons and how they portrayed Black in them!!).
Something MUCH deeper her than just an out of contro welfare Mom.....this is DEEP psychological stuff, the kind that meks YOU seem crazy because you would even suggest it is possible. Crazy people ALWAYS make sane people LOOK crazy, bucause NO ONE but a nut would do the things they do and if you bust them, YOU seem like the nut.....intil they finally unravel all the way, but by then you have been branded a nut too. This woman is totally certifiably BONKERS!! Of that, there is no doubt. This is no "pregnancy risk" fantasy being acted out........this is insanity with a little pocket change at the extreme. Hubby said that the FIRST time we read about this....I dis's him, saying HE was NUTS (see what I mean!!) and then the REAL story starts coming out piece by piece....and lo and behold he was SPOT ON about this woman.
You can't "punish" her without punishing the kids......this is an OBVIOUS case for mandatory sterilization as she does not have the mental capacity to make sound judgements and there are sleazy Doctors around (especially now that we are moving closer and CLOSER to mandatory free health care for all) that will actually treat someone like this simply because they have the $$ to pay for the treatments, but oh my GAWD I can hear the screaming now if someone actually thought you could steralize someone out of control so as to STOP her from creating more kids SHE can harm!! ANd SHE is doing the harm..........no one else!!
I think the Doctor (s) that were involved in this should be barred and have their licenses revoked as WELL as ****** to set up a "fund" to support these kids...after all, THEY are the real "fathers", the sperm donor didn't even get it wet!!! Wouldn't be a baby there except for the scummy trash Doctors that did this for her. I think a fine of say, 10 times what they were paid for the treatments might get their attention if we don't remove their licenses but I like the idea of BOTH!! And they can take turns monthly (as they will be unemployed now) "fathering" their children....change shitty diapers, feed them at all hours of the day and night, change MORE shitty diapers, and feed them again!! And then clean the damned house too plus spend some "quality" time with the Mom....I bet THAT would be intellectually stimulating!!
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.......but this isn't about someone wnating to have lots of kids. This is about someone with MAJOR psychological issues and NOT being able to make sound judgements and the scummy Doctors that will take her money.
my 2 cents.....JMNBABE
supreme_black_man said:
To tell the truth, I was wondering what it meant also.
So its kind of used like our term "mongrel" would be used I take it because the Spanish from Spain seem a bit more "high brow" to me about ancestry and all, especially in how they seem to view other Spanish as beneath them.
Now I get it.
I have spoken to a few people from South America and they have told me that the families with the money and the power behind the scenes down there are white. I have watched a few of the spanish language talk shows on cable and the hosts all seem to be white even tho the audience are mostly darkskinned indians or mestizos. Same thing with most of the spanish language news shows.
