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My Asian Wife Wants More

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  • #141
Umm... remember that date night? Well.. it got cancelled. No, not because Caleb called for her services, as least not yet. But Min-Ju is feeling really tired; she didn't want to wake up from her nap. So I ended up making some pasta for a quiet night in. She said it was really sweet for me to make dinner. But I can't lie, I'm pretty disappointed and a little unhappy. She does bail sometimes, so I try to take it in stride. Part of the reason she's so tired is she's still sleeping off her big night, which both makes it especially frustrating (she had other times to nap) and kind of hot. As you guys say, being a cuck is about accepting second place. This just isn't the sexiest version of that.
 
  • #142
I'm sorry to hear that your date night didn't pan out as you had planned. I can tell from your previous posts that you were very much looking forward to it. You will just need to be strong and realise that her love for you hasn't changed even though her time for you may have. I'm sure what you are feeling is one of the hardest emotions to deal with so I hope you are ok!
 
  • #143
That sucks man, really feel for you. But don't take it too hard, Minju isn't flaking because she wants to, it's just that she really is tired. She was on such a high I doubt she got much sleep then. Mentally and physically for her it must be hard too. You, being a caring and understanding husband sees that and decided to let Minju rest and cook her food even. I am sure Minju will make it up to you soon.
 
  • #144
Thanks. It's ok, I'm being philosophical about it. And what you say about her having been on such a high makes a lot of sense, crashing is inevitable. Besides, we still have our weekend picnic hangout with friends. She's still napping (it's impressive how much she can sleep sometimes), so part of me is considering trying to sneak a way to cum in this cage... soooo needing it.

mystTiger said:
i really want to ask... where do you want things with Min-Ju and her cuckoldress role to go in the future.. i know we have previously asked what Min-Ju is looking for and you have said you don't really know as you spend time exploring everything, but i want to know... how do you see your relationship developing over the coming years? really want to know how far you actually want things to go?

Hard to say. When I'm feeling especially subby, I want it to go pretty far. But in my more sober moments, I guess this is what I envision for us. I definitely want her to keep playing and having fun. I hope for a time when she feels fully confident and sexually alive as a woman. I forget who mentioned this, but one of the things about being cuckold is that my number of partners stays frozen while hers keeps going up, and I like that. She should go up at least past 10, if she wants to. Long term, it would be hot if she keeps a boyfriend, someone she maybe even goes on trips with, and I hope she gets increasingly dominant and cruel with me. But I also don't want this to ever change in any fundamental way how she sees and thinks about me. I also don't see this as becoming a full-time thing for us. It's fun to play now, and I imagine we will keep playing for a few months, depending on what she likes, but then I also see us going through long periods of vanilla. Maybe this will be something to do here and there over the years to keep things fun and fresh, and of course there are lots of things, like orgasm denial, we can play with in the bedroom on our own. But then in my crazier moments, you asked about pregnancy risk, and yes this is something I want to risk again... and I know she does, too. A lot of our play with center around head-games, I imagine: the idea of risk when there really isn't much risk. But it would be hot for her to take a real risk sometime, truly unprotected. Maybe with Caleb. Of course, once we take that risk once we will want to take the risk more, which is both what presses the brake on the idea and presses the accelerator. I do want us to get to the point where she is open about things with one of her men. He should get to know he's making me a cuck as he fucks and enjoys Min-Ju, and I definitely want to listen and watch. It will be hot when she gets a text during dinner and gets up to go suck Caleb, even as that will hurt like hell. And if she asks, I will drive her. If she wants to spend a week in a bikini in the Caribbean with a love, she should ask me to book the trip. I want her to ask for me, demand more -- especially with SooYun. Maybe she will out me to more of her friends, as her choice. There will probably be a day when I'm sitting next to her while hanging out with our friends, and some of them will know she fucks around on me. Some of them may even have fucked her.

Several of you have suggested I should tell her to cut me off from blowjobs, that her oral skills should be for other men only. The idea is pretty intense. Feeling subby as I am right now, I could probably be convinced to ask her. Maybe I should?
 
  • #145
I guess the issue with you pushing things too far is the question of at what point does her respect for you suffer? Is it better for you to be the one pushing the boundaries to show your wwillingness, love for her and acceptance of your new role.... Or is it better for you to be letting her take charge and decide when to push the limits of the relationship... Personally I think as is the case for Min-Ju with Caleb, that you also need to say no occasionally. Or at least make an effort to say no.
 
  • #146
Sorry about your date night. Nice way to support her and care for her by making dinner and being understanding of her need for rest.
 
  • #147
Might be too late, but given the canceled date, you guys could have traded massages as a substitute for going out. A good way to share some love and help relax and recuperate.

Also, you know my vote on asking her to deny you blowjobs. Tell her to make you her 'No Blow Job Bitch'. I mean, after all, think how much dick she's already going to be sucking. Do you really want to burden her with yours? She'll be appreciative... Maybe even do something nice for you for being so thoughtful. And certainly she'll tell Soo-Yun what a good husband you are.
 
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  • #148
koreanslut said:
Long term, it would be hot if she keeps a boyfriend, someone she maybe even goes on trips with, and I hope she gets increasingly dominant and cruel with me.

Now there's a thought...

koreanslut said:
But I also don't want this to ever change in any fundamental way how she sees and thinks about me.

...but this is also very important.

koreanslut said:
If she wants to spend a week in a bikini in the Caribbean with a love, she should ask me to book the trip.

Holy crap, insanely hot idea. One day...

koreanslut said:
Several of you have suggested I should tell her to cut me off from blowjobs, that her oral skills should be for other men only. The idea is pretty intense. Feeling subby as I am right now, I could probably be convinced to ask her. Maybe I should?

Of course you should!
 
  • #149
Recently I've seldom been on target in attempting to contribute to your thought process. However, here goes again. The question is should you have Min-Ju deny you blow jobs. Well she does as long as you are caged. which is most of the time. So when you are uncaged, should she deny you? If she uncages you for your relief, she will choose cruel relief, likely ruined orgasms and wasted sperm from your hand job--no blow jobs here. If she releases you because she needs cock, you should wear cheap, thick condoms so she gets pleasure while you hardly feel a thing. No blow jobs here either. That leaves release for reconnection as a couple. In that instance you should exercise 'normal' marital rights. If you two want that may exclude blow jobs, but you two will probably want viginal intercourse anyway. So overall the question is mute except for some psychological angst not relevant in practice.

BTW, saying no to the first post-vlow job fuck sounds like fun. I still think she should take her clothes off to suck. Saying no when nude should be interesting.

Since he was rough on her boobs, buying him nipple clamps could be interesting. Nothiing like being clamped while sucking. Imagine hr calls tomorrow early afternoon because he wants a suck before going to work. Min-Ju is in her 'friends over' outfit. She changes into something appropriate for walking or public transportation to his place. She reaches inside and puts on the nipple clamps in his hallway. She goes in, kisses him, disrobes, and gets on her knees to suck, leqaving nipple clamps on. Afterwards she says no to a quickie fuck, but gives him the clamps for his use some other day.
 
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  • #150
Re: Spend a week with her boyfriend. Do you want Min-Ju's Dom to take your place on your delayed, will happen later, honeymoon? The Korean artist got her consumation fuck. Maybe her Dom should get her honeymoon. But I like better the honeymoon scenario I PM'd you some weeks back. What do you think?
 
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  • #151
Missing out on our date last night was kind of a bummer, but as you've pointed out she's been on quite a high this week so it's natural for her to crash. We've been having a nice, chill day together. She was sweet and apologetic. I've assured her it's ok, but I'm also taking advantage of her guilt a tiny bit to coax her into some sexy fun this weekend. Sunday is a big end-of-summer hangout with a bunch of our friends, 12-15 of us gathering in the part for a picnic, frisbee, and some smuggled beers. We've all been looking forward to it for a while. Hopefully it will be a beautiful day, though the weather forecast says it might storm a little, dammit. Anyway, to "make things up to me," I'm coaxing Min-Ju to invite Darren to the picnic. And I'm also convincing her to wear her bikini top with her short shorts. I especially love seeing her in a bikini, and it's getting me hot to think about her displaying herself that way for Darren. Of course, as my wife points out, "He's already seen my bare breasts, remember?" I'm not sure which part of this is hotter -- that Darren has seen her breasts when she so deliciously flashed him, or that she remembers it so readily.

She's going to wear her bikini top and short shorts, with a light shirt over top. I've asked her to wait until she's sitting with Darren before she takes off the shirt. She will be sitting there next to him when she reveals her bikini. In turn, I've committed to leaving the two of them alone for at least a half hour to an hour. I'll go play frisbee or something with the guys while she is free to let things evolve with Darren, though she tells me she isn't sure she wants anything to happen. Probably nothing will, but the tease should be a lot of fun for both of us.
 
  • #152
When there are two guys that are not her husband chasing after her and wanting to fuck her, I am sure Minju will want something to happen with Darren tomorrow. I am sure most of your pals on here also want something to happen between Minju and Darren tomorrow. Hope that 30-60 min of them together will spark some kind of attraction.
 
  • #153
View attachment 268202Re: Bikini top. Does she have one that if she ties or snaps the back band so it is loose, Darren could look in? Especially when she exhales and slumps her shoulders.
 
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  • #154
This thread is in need of pics!! I'm sure a few ones not showing her face would be fine with her with all the stuff she has already done!
 
  • #155
To be honest, Darren sounds a little like a dead end from everything you've said. I think it's hot that you coax her to step out of her comfort zone with him, knowing that he's part of her social circle (tangentially at least) so it feels riskier to her. But I get the sense, like you said, that she's not really sure she wants anything to happen with him because so far he hasn't been clear or aggressive enough. I think after the Korean suitor and Caleb we can safely say that she responds to confidence and directness. Darren hasn't exhibited much of either, despite getting quite a few sexy hints from her. She may have provisionally friendzoned him at this point.

Doesn't necessarily take away from your fun in knowingly leaving her with a guy who is most likely interested with some rules to follow that ensure there's some sexual tension there... but yeah.

On the other hand, it could just stem from the fact that it is riskier and she already has something "safe" and satisfying with Caleb. If that's the case, you definitely need to push her to keep trying, whether with Darren or someone else you two can identify, because that sort of "oneitis" (forgive the pick-up artist language, but they kind of nailed that term) can end up detrimental to your relationship. If this is going to be a game, and not just a trade, she needs to dilute the feelings she's undoubtedly having for her dominant new playmate by initiating things with at least one other guy. It's dangerous to maintain such a focus.

Anyway, I hope you guys have/had fun. I look forward to the updates. I'm sure we're all excited to hear about the first time that Caleb flexes his muscles and summons her for a BJ... he's been pretty patient to wait this long already, lol. I'd have upgraded my SMS plan already for how often I'd be abusing that arrangement. :p
 
  • #156
As some may know I myself have gone through a period questioning exactly whether I am a cuckold, and if I am what well flavour I am. After some introspection I came to the conclusion that I am voyeuristic and wanting my wife to be a hotwife. Koreanslut on the other hand seems to lean towards denialism far more that I. One thing I did learn when reading up about cuckoldry and in particular denialism is that sometimes you need a time out to re establish your relationship. KS did that recently with the two of them getting cosy for a week and re affirming their affection and love for each other, the thing to take away from this is that these timeouts from cuckoldry are needed. Also with her being kindly cruel and denying sex there also need to be a sort of safeword or phrase that can be used so that KS doesn't feel hurt by being pushed to far and his wife not realising it.

So my advise speak to Min-Ju about maybe a safe phrase you can use so that you discuss things outside the cuckold bubble, discuss having breaks from cuckoldry for a few days or even a week if one of you feels the need to reconnect. Otherwise continue as you want to I do have some hot ideas for you and Min-Ju to try out KS.

If Min-Ju is going to be denying you both blowjobs and bareback sex, the next logical step is for her not to have any of your cum on her, so when she give you a handjob she must do it with you wearing a condom or her wearing a glove so she doesn't touch you properly. You should also go out and buy her a chain necklace or bracelet so she can display your chastity key, no one else will know what it is but she will and so will you. Part of your agreement earlier was for her to buy new lingerie for the man she is seeing, maybe you should be the one to buy the lingerie and for her never to model it for you it is just for his eyes only!

As I said a few suggestions I hope this gives you some ideas KS.
 
  • #157
DeSoulis, you are so right. While I push for adventure, I feel very strongly that KS and Min-Ju need reconnection periods. I think they are more important for denial play that both doing-things-play.

As for knowing what one likes, the only way to know if an extension of the current play works is to try it. I don't think anyone, including KS knows enough about what they will like to define a certain pigeon hole as their play type. But why bother defining their play category? They are deliciously actively experimenting. But I agree, KS denial appears to becoming a desired aspect for them both, especially the loving-cruel mind game kind.

Leaving things undefined and apparently somewhat out of control appears to be a fun component for them. As long as Min-Ju keeps checking "Am I being too cruel?" everything is fine. A safeword is often a good idea, especially for a scene where things change fast. They have a safeword already. It's when they plan together and relive together. They discuss possible acts. They reject some as being too far out or to dangerous or to impractical. Of the large group remaining, I think Min-Ju has carried out every dare and every instruction KS has made. Except for one thing--being fully comfortable in interacting with strange boys. Getting over her shyness and being more assertive in social situations is an ongoing process which appears to be moving along nicely.

As for extending denial into other areas, if they find it fun, go for it. I like your suggested 'Min-Ju refuses to have contact with his pre-cum and semen'. I can imagine KS relegated to the spare bedroom, hoping sometime to get a peek at his wife's charms, while other men fully enjoy them. But I also expect that would be a phase, an interlude in their overall loving relationship. To be repeated sometimes? Maybe. Hopefully. To be remembered with sexual tingles? Most assuredly. What I see for them in the long run is a loving playful relationship comfortably co-existing with parenthood, career, and self-realization. Sex games with outsiders, KS denials, and Min-Ju re-realizations of her sexual potential and carrying out dares I hope will come and go being interspersed with and be a component of a broad based loving relationship. I think they are well on their way to this happy state.

Collectively, we have suggested a variety of play acts. I hope they try out most of them. Some are trivial, such as wearing nipple clamps once when sucking Caleb. Others are more significant, such as undressing entirely the first time Caleb commands her sucking presence. The clamps will likely happen anyway, along with other sex toys. The being nude for the first suck sets a new greater expectation of submissiveness which will color subsequent intents. Then there are truly significant acts--KS's in the short-term 'permanent' relegation to the spare bedroom--denial of views of and contact with Min-Ju's body--having someone else take the husband's role for their planned honeymoon, or sharing the honeymoon with well-hung strangers.

KS is obviously more than capable of making these decisions. So is Min-Ju. So we can only suggest, watch with pleasure, applaud, and congratulate. They are beautiffuly attuned to this mutual adventure they are sharing.
 
  • #158
Tokyocouple said:
This thread is in need of pics!! I'm sure a few ones not showing her face would be fine with her with all the stuff she has already done!

I agree. This is a hot and amazing thread to keep track up of and get hard as hell from it. But to see the looks of Min-ju just to get an idea of what she looks like would be the best.
I support the idea of not showing her face, privacy is key. But just to see what her figure is like would be amazing!
 
  • #159
KS, your thoughts about the future deserve comment. Yes, yes, make play PART of your ongoing married life.

Pregancy risk: You two want to play, so you should. I would design a game for pill destruction. You have used dare completion for pill destruction. Combine these elements. Give her play dares. If she does them your reward is a crushed pill. What timing for no pills? I like interspersing no-pill days with pill days. Say, up to a maximum of no-pill every other day, essentially cutting her dose in half. Why? Because the apparant risk, 50%, is much higher than the real risk of possibly 5%, given that the dosage is conservatively more than required so the failure rate among users is very low. Or when a few no-pill days are involved, something along the line "The next time you go out with Bill, no pill for you that day and the next. Let's give his sperm a chance."

As for a guy knowing he is cucking you, the key is he confronts you with his knowing, preferably in front of Min-Ju for your mortification. That's why I like you serving them breakfast while Min-Ju, skantily clad, plays with him in your presence and then she dismisses you so they can go back to bed. Imagine you cleaning up and going back to your room while hearing them complete what she started in your presence. For added humiliation, you could afterwards thank him for doing for Min-Ju what you can't as she walks him to the door in her desheveled lingerie. You watch as she kisses him goodbye while promising to see him again soon.

Imagine Min-Ju ordering you to drop your pants to prove to him that you are caged.

Re: My prior comment. I left out that having known consequences for not doing something functions as a safeword.
 
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Hi, folks. Thanks for the comments and perspective. I'm reading and taking this in, even if I haven't had time to comment directly, so I appreciate it. Sunday's picnic was fun and flirty, but nothing major happened. It does seem pretty clear nothing is going to happen with Darren, which is probably for the best. Min-Ju confirmed it later when I asked. She "kind of likes him" but doesn't feel any real connection or interest. But the picnic itself was fun. It was a big group of us getting together for an end of summer afternoon: food, beer, lots of hanging out. Overall a fun afternoon. It got a little cooler than hoped, but I still coaxed Min-Ju into wearing her bikini, underneath short shorts and a white top. She looked really cute and sexy in a casual way. I'd told her about my plan about leaving her alone with Darren. She kind of rolled her eyes and me, but seemed on board. She knew it would make me happy. So yes, she and I got there with a couple of our closest friends and staked out a good spot in the park. Other people trickled in over the next hour or so, including Darren. When he first showed up, he walked over toward us -- I'm sure because it was Min-Ju who invited him and who he probably knows best, but also I'm sure because he liked her. Playing my role, I got up to leave as he arrived. I wanted them to be able to greet each other without me watching over them.

Even though it was my idea, it felt strange getting up to leave. Like I was being banished. But of course that's also what made it hot. I wrangled a couple other friends to go play frisbee. I made Min-Ju promise to take off her shirt so she was in her bikini top, but since it was a little cooler I wasn't sure if that would end up happening or not. She was the only woman in the group wearing her bikini, an unexpected surprise that had it's own turn-on factor -- that my wife was the only one who would be displaying herself so deliciously. So the frisbee playing, for me at least, was pretty distracted. I kept looking back over my shoulder at the group to see if she'd taken her shirt off yet. I looked, and looked, and looked, and she still had it on. I was starting to give up, forcing myself to stop looking so much... and then, finally, and there she was. Her back was to me. From my angle all she had on was the string of her little bikini. Darren was facing her and they were talking, which meant he was facing her, up close and personal, with her in her bikini top. It was utterly ordinary -- and yet terribly exciting. Part of me knew nothing was really happening, but the cuckold part of my brain was racing. This, after all, was a man who had already been treated to a glorious view down my wife's top, and now he was getting to enjoy her in her bikini. Him, not me.

Suddenly, the firsbee game wasn't interested at all; the jealous part of me wanting to see what was going on, to be a part of it. Feeling excluded like this sent a surge of jealousy through me, even as this is exactly what I had wanted. So I ****** myself to play a little longer, teasing myself with crazy thoughts about what they might be talking about. Later, not that long after, really, the game dissolved and we all returned to the main group. I ****** myself to go sit down over by some other friends. After all, this was a party, right? I should mix and socialize. Except I kept glancing over at them. They were just talking, perfectly innocent. Her top was even back on. Because of weather, I knew, but in a way it felt like a further denial. Now her bikini top was covered. It was all innocent -- but I kept stealing glances. I told myself I was being surreptitious, that no one noticed, but the rational part of me knows how these things worked. Lots of people at the party noticed, didn't they? They noticed I kept stealing glances at my wife talking with this guy. Which is embarrassing in a whole different, and not sexy, way. To them, I'm sure it read as me not trusting her, and I kind of hate that thought. I don't want to be that guy in their eyes, the guy who doesn't trust his wife and/or tries to control her. So that part of it definitely left a sour taste in my mouth, but I'm trying not to think about it too much.

That was it, really. Afterwards, when we got home, we talked about our outing, and Min-Ju teased and exaggerated a little for my benefit to get me wound up. She told me she could definitely feel Darren's eyes on her, and that she felt a little charge in the air when she took her cover off. She admitted to feeling a little naughty, a little silly, for wearing a bikini, and wondered what her female friends thought about that. But ultimately, she said, their conversation was totally innocent and rather boring. She had fun, but nothing more.

We did get ourselves pretty wound up last night, though. In a way that got me desperate and finally begging for release. And I learned the... consequence... of that. "Bitchy Min-Ju" made a delightful appearance. But I'm afraid details will have to wait for when I have time to write again.
 
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