Legalizing ************

[blkoralslaveboy]

I had a strange conversation with a girl, 24, that told me she went through college and graduated without a single penny of debt working as an ******. Now, obviously, she didn't give me details of whether she went all the way or not.
But my question is aside from the bible thump response, which shouldn't be taken too seriously considering this is a porn site after all, why shouldn't the oldest profession be legalized as long as both parties consent and are over 18? Really, there are a lot of unsatisfied men AND women in need of relief or satisfaction in secret, or some dorky guys in need of some tail because women don't find them interesting/attractive. Isn't this true capitalism? In this day and age if strangers want to fuck, they're gonna fuck... so what the fuck is the big fucking deal with one saying pay up?

 

[rhino]

... so what the fuck is the big fucking deal with one saying pay up?

When it is as simple as that then slaveboy has a point. It is okay if she is giving it away for free but not if somebody has to pay? Only the johns would complain about that.

My only worry is if it is legalized then nobody will check to see if REAL slavery is involved. People like to pretend that 'prostitutes' are all out there of there own free will even tho the world is full of human traffickers. Traffickers are just more organized crime syndicates who worship the almighty dollar and sell girls like sides of beef.

As for homegrown REAL pimps they are among the scum of the earth too. As low as dope dealers. Maybe lower. No matter how low your opinion of the average pimp is right now i can guarantee u it is not low enuff. Movies like to play pimping as glamorous and all that shit and i am sure there are a few out there who got some style but most r just punk thugs who beat and drug and terrorize women and girls into submission and who will beat anyone who tries to help the girls too even the girls relatives because it is all about the money. Anytime u see an average pimp u r looking at somebody who might have already killed a girl who refused to trick for him or gave him some attitude. A pimp is nothing more than a petty terrorist and modern day slave owner who will treat himself to a new car with the money made from working your daughter like a dog till she gets killed by a whackjob john or just kills herself.

U might think it strange that someone like me should get a on a goddam high horse about this but i am disgusted by the laws suggested by people who do not think thru the issues. Lawmakers are the worst.

Hooking? Fine with me. Trafficking and pimping? Put them against a wall and shoot them all.

 

[vtjames742]

I wouldnt pay a ********** for sex but at the same time every man has probably paid for sex in one way or another.
My mother of all people once said that if a woman can make a good life with her body and she felt good about it then more power to her. I have met some high enders that are of sound mind and of solid self respect and I am cool with them doing whatever. However a lot of women in this line are ****** or are in it because of drug or alcohol addiction or issues with self worth etc and that I have a problem with.

 

[Hungrylips]

Outlaw pimping, and legalize ************. If it was legal, then they would be considered respectable and they would be much less likely to be victimized. I can see it likely to happen eventually. There have been other cultures in which ************ was legal and considered respectable. If men could get women to pay them to have sex, it would have been legal long ago.

 

[AZdewey9]

************ in the *********/****** mode is nothing more than a financial transaction for services performed.

What two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their own damn business.

Marriage, as it is constituted these days, is nothing more than a religiously sanctioned, governmentally endorsed form of financial and sexual slavery.

And remember this one important thing:

You don't pay her for sex. You pay her to leave when you are done.

 

[RoSquirts]

Maybe your marriage is a form of financial and sexual slavery.

Speak for yourself.

 

[blkoralslaveboy]

Fair enough! I add that we citizens should be the law makers, call it tyranny of the majority but being consulted at some level would be nice.

When it is as simple as that then slaveboy has a point. It is okay if she is giving it away for free but not if somebody has to pay? Only the johns would complain about that.

My only worry is if it is legalized then nobody will check to see if REAL slavery is involved. People like to pretend that 'prostitutes' are all out there of there own free will even tho the world is full of human traffickers. Traffickers are just more organized crime syndicates who worship the almighty dollar and sell girls like sides of beef.

As for homegrown REAL pimps they are among the scum of the earth too. As low as dope dealers. Maybe lower. No matter how low your opinion of the average pimp is right now i can guarantee u it is not low enuff. Movies like to play pimping as glamorous and all that shit and i am sure there are a few out there who got some style but most r just punk thugs who beat and drug and terrorize women and girls into submission and who will beat anyone who tries to help the girls too even the girls relatives because it is all about the money. Anytime u see an average pimp u r looking at somebody who might have already killed a girl who refused to trick for him or gave him some attitude. A pimp is nothing more than a petty terrorist and modern day slave owner who will treat himself to a new car with the money made from working your daughter like a dog till she gets killed by a whackjob john or just kills herself.

U might think it strange that someone like me should get a on a goddam high horse about this but i am disgusted by the laws suggested by people who do not think thru the issues. Lawmakers are the worst.

Hooking? Fine with me. Trafficking and pimping? Put them against a wall and shoot them all.

 

[MyWifeInNeed]

My wife became an ****** and loves the work, She only works once or twice a week for certain men,, and yes they are black. She is with them for 6 hrs max, and treat her to dinner and so on, and what happens behind closed dfoors is their buiness, it isn't always sex. They also recommend her to other guys and so on. If she gets hurt, she just tells one of her very regulars and the problem is taken care of. No complaints from either of us.

 

[muleman]

Make it legal and tax it as fuel and cigs like 30 cents on the dollar that goes to the States that make it legal to help out for road repairs and education.

 

[SaltandPepper98]

Of course it should be legalized. They just haven't found a way to tax it here yet.

The US has always been backward when it came to sexual mores. Look to Europe to see how it should be done.

Rhino, you have pimps and traffickers precisely because ************ is illegal. You don't have traffickers in say, washing machines because they are legal. You do have traffickers in 3 galleon tanks for toilets from Canada because they are illegal now in the US. Opportunists can only traffic in something if it is made illegal. The mob and booze in the 30's for instance. Drug traffickers today.

I was stationed in Germany from "72" to "74" and believe me, legalized ************ works. The girls have to be checked every 5 days by a government doctor and have their "pussy card" stamped.

For the most part it works this way. Mule Man and I decide to take advantage of the new wave of sensibleness in laws overtaking the government and decide we will buy a motel and rent rooms to the girls. We provide security and we advertise to hire college students, soccer moms, whoever wants to work at whatever time they want to work. Guys come in and walk through the hallways and the girls who are not "busy" sit just inside the open doors. The drugged up diseased looking bitches working illegally today would not work for us.

We do such a good business that we form a corporation and sell stock on the stock exchange and we buy up hotel chains and convert them into "Mule and Norms Pussy Paradise" brothels. I handle the money and Mule handles the women.

That's how it works. You can buy stock in a brothel in Germany. No big deal. In the Netherlands you can get a prescription from your doctor to go to a ********** and free government health care will be pay for it. Why not? The guy in the wheelchair. The ugly shy guy. The guy who just wants a quickie on occasion without the expense and hassle of "pitching woo". Why not a simple legal business transaction.

There are even brothels for women in Germany. Why not?

Fuck the moralizers. Especially the political ones. Thats why I just love it when they get caught with their pants down. Then they start crying. Beautiful.

Ladies, you are truly sitting on gold mines. See Mule or I for details.

Norm

 

[demattha28]

Of course, pimpin and hoe'in should be legalized; The demand is there, the money is there.

I mean ain't marriage just a formalized version of it it??


For real though, if it was legalized, it would cut into a few brotha's pockets; because it is a good real way for a young brotha to make a few dollas to get out of a bad situation. If it was legal, It'd be harder for the come-up

 

[shybob9306]

Needs

Married men have needs. If the wife at home is not taking care of those needs, then the husband should be allowed to have those needs taken care of by a professional. But you see, thats why a vast majority of the wives in this country don't want ************ legalized. They want that controll over their husband. If he's not getting it at home, then he's not getting it anywhere. In the state I livein, if you get caught soliciting, they take your car and fine you heavily. That is just wrong! I have a very old and dear friend that this just happend to because he wanted a blow job, but his wife does not give blow jobs anymore. Hell she hasn't put out to him for over a year! Now she's divorcing him and she's going to put him in the poor house. All because he wanted a little gratification. What a b-i-t-c-h!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[demattha28]

Married men have needs. If the wife at home is not taking care of those needs, then the husband should be allowed to have those needs taken care of by a professional. But you see, thats why a vast majority of the wives in this country don't want ************ legalized. They want that controll over their husband. If he's not getting it at home, then he's not getting it anywhere. In the state I livein, if you get caught soliciting, they take your car and fine you heavily. That is just wrong! I have a very old and dear friend that this just happend to because he wanted a blow job, but his wife does not give blow jobs anymore. Hell she hasn't put out to him for over a year! Now she's divorcing him and she's going to put him in the poor house. All because he wanted a little gratification. What a b-i-t-c-h!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's a clue don't marry a cunt who thinks her pussy should only be visited less often than a Sears dept. store;

Or maybe the husband needs to learn how to rock the pussy the right way, so that won't happen.

 

[blkoralslaveboy]

Here's a clue don't marry a cunt who thinks her pussy should only be visited less often than a Sears dept. store;

Or maybe the husband needs to learn how to rock the pussy the right way, so that won't happen.

people change with time. both men AND women might need outside relief if they aren't swingers.

 

[expatdad]

legalising ************

Practice has shown where ************ is legalised it drives out the pimps and provides more health protection for all concerned. It also addresses trafficking as that remains an offense for those doing the trafficking but does not criminilise trafficked women.

Instead of clamping down on those men or women selling sex, the police are able to protect such women when they appeal to them without them having to worry about being charged themselves.

Police and courts are then free to target the more serious offences without wasting resources chasing kerb crawlers or the 'persons' selling.

Police in Europe and USA give traffickers 24 hours freedom of action when they fail to follow up runaways/missing people for 24 hours...

It also enables such people to be able to report abuse to the police, which currently rarely happens, but the 'abuser' may be on a path to more serious crimes and could be stopped quicker if 'escorts/prostitutes' of either sex were able to report them

When it is as simple as that then slaveboy has a point. It is okay if she is giving it away for free but not if somebody has to pay? Only the johns would complain about that.

My only worry is if it is legalized then nobody will check to see if REAL slavery is involved. People like to pretend that 'prostitutes' are all out there of there own free will even tho the world is full of human traffickers. Traffickers are just more organized crime syndicates who worship the almighty dollar and sell girls like sides of beef.

As for homegrown REAL pimps they are among the scum of the earth too. As low as dope dealers. Maybe lower. No matter how low your opinion of the average pimp is right now i can guarantee u it is not low enuff. Movies like to play pimping as glamorous and all that shit and i am sure there are a few out there who got some style but most r just punk thugs who beat and drug and terrorize women and girls into submission and who will beat anyone who tries to help the girls too even the girls relatives because it is all about the money. Anytime u see an average pimp u r looking at somebody who might have already killed a girl who refused to trick for him or gave him some attitude. A pimp is nothing more than a petty terrorist and modern day slave owner who will treat himself to a new car with the money made from working your daughter like a dog till she gets killed by a whackjob john or just kills herself.

U might think it strange that someone like me should get a on a goddam high horse about this but i am disgusted by the laws suggested by people who do not think thru the issues. Lawmakers are the worst.

Hooking? Fine with me. Trafficking and pimping? Put them against a wall and shoot them all.

 

[expatdad]

leagalising prostutition

This is an interesting thread to me. What do all of you say about those girls who are ****** into ************ not by a pimp, but because they have no choice economically. Those girls that hate it, but do it because they have no other way to support themselves and their families for whatever reason - high unemployment, lack of education, corrupt government.

People always have choices.

Nor should we forget that some do it because they like it.

They are not a burden on the state and can often 'retire' early on their earnings.

Controlling others should remain a crime.

Likewise drug dependency is fuelled by its criminality, and th drug dealers thrive on the control they have because of its illegality.

By making prostition and drug dealing both illegal the state hands control to the criminals of a problem that does not need to be a problem if they were legalised.

 

[muleman]

People do have choices but the 12 ,13 14 or older girls that run away from homes or foster care or shelters and hit the streets dont have much of a choice on how to make money. Yes some of those do have a choice but some are so fucked up in the head they really dont have a clue what they are doing or where their life is heading.

 

[blkoralslaveboy]

It would create jobs of course, for escorts, advertisers, guards, health clinics with new codes and regulations, book keepers, irs or tax services, the new sex czar (lol, who knows maybe sex becomes reg'd). More rev for the tax pool like someone said earlier... which would ease the social security burden on the rest of us. incidentally, that's why i'm also for illegal mexican nationals getting some type of temporary work permit so they too can be taxed to help us with the ssn burden.

As with the slave trade I agree that it will still exist in some form or other but on a much smaller scale, and in a far riskier medium. once the biz becomes legitimate i assure you it will become extremely difficult for the traffickers to keep their secrecy in the long run. The fact that the rest of the call boys/girls are legit means law enforcement will mainly focus on those in the illegal trafficking. My guess is word getting on the street will be as highly risky for them too... and competing businesses will be all too eager to rat them out when the word does get around.

now, regulating a crack ***** is a different story lol. they will probably be the only ones staying the same as they are now under the new law codes.

 

[blkoralslaveboy]

Weird note::: does it mean suddenly alot more women will straight up start charging for sex. lol. or what if a guy buys a gal dinner, a movie, and a bar and eventually she gives him some... is that dinner cost taxable? will that mean dates have to be reported once humping occurs?? what if hubby humps the babysitter--can that become a new business? Babysitter *****-- a new industry if you will? How about the pet sitter? The Cable guy? The plumber? Everyone@@... just being silly...

 

[expatdad]

yes, that's true, and that's why victimization should always be dissolved....but from a purely logical basis,those kids ARE going to be victims of some sort - they set themselves up for failure by their actions. It should definitely be combated but at the end of the day the situation pretty much guarantees SOME sort of exploitation, whatever the ************ laws are.

I can't criticise those who run away from home and no one else should either. Without knowing the background it is not reasonable to 'blame' them for running away from it.

If general ************ was legal it would be much easier for prostitutes and their clients to report child exploitation without fear of their own prosecution, or public shaming.

The proliferation of private planes and the market in the Middle East, Sudan (little law enforcement, easily bribed and borders 18 other countries) and Nigeria (super rich Africans with money to spare and a big wide country to hide things in), and some other countries means that young runaways, who are not going to be even looked for for 24hours, are looking at a far different fate than street prostutition.

I was once told of a brothels in the Emirates were nearly half the 'working girls' were American minors. Though I have not been able to confirm that information.

When all ************ is illegal the barriers to getting at the more serious problem are just made that much higher.

For others, in a 'free' country people should be free to choose their lifestyles, with protection only for those not yet able to make those choices

 

[expatdad]

modern slavery

"As with the slave trade I agree that it will still exist in some form or other but on a much smaller scale, and in a far riskier medium."

If you think the slave trade is on a smaller scale now, go and read the Interpol reports or the anti-slavery campaigners reports. The slave trade is alive and well and thriving in 2009. What is more in some countries it is perfectly legal. Mali recently banned slave trading but refused to go so far as to free existings slaves on the grounds 'who would look after them'...

an argument some might be familiar with...

 

[expatdad]

running

People do have choices but the 12 ,13 14 or older girls that run away from homes or foster care or shelters and hit the streets dont have much of a choice on how to make money. Yes some of those do have a choice but some are so fucked up in the head they really dont have a clue what they are doing or where their life is heading.

Not my experience muleman. Most of those I have met run from circumstances...their mother's new partner, parents permanently at war, poverty that forces them from home at 16 so they pay their own way, mental illness of parents making life impossible. Very very few run because of their own behaviour, just decent kids that just can't take the strain any more...

Mediation, and negotiation, and identification of those in need of help who have not sought out help is often the practocal solution that works.

Of course there are some into drugs and drinking but that is the exception not the rule whatever the extravagant stories that might hit newspaper headlines...

But for those who run far and fast the helping hand so often comes from the wrong people.

 

[blkoralslaveboy]

"As with the slave trade I agree that it will still exist in some form or other but on a much smaller scale, and in a far riskier medium."

If you think the slave trade is on a smaller scale now, go and read the Interpol reports or the anti-slavery campaigners reports. The slave trade is alive and well and thriving in 2009. What is more in some countries it is perfectly legal. Mali recently banned slave trading but refused to go so far as to free existings slaves on the grounds 'who would look after them'...

an argument some might be familiar with...

Of course that's bull shit! I'm not going to argue with that... but the truth is none of that has anything really do with the core argument here which is should a person be given the right to charge money for use of their body within mutual consent?

virtually ANYTHING can be used to bring in crime... for any reason. should we compile a list of things we should begin banning?? It's just a another "dirty" business! Except this one has a long history religious and moral persecution committed by individuals and groups groomed for the blind repetition and passing on of ignorant and outdated traditions. Yeah it sucks to have to pay for it.... but it is a private issue!!

 

[kittensucker]

They have legal ************ in Nevada.

There's a waiting list of white girls trying to get in and earn their house money right now.