is my girlfriend leading me down this path? (confused!)

[omegaboi]

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not at all sure how I feel about this, and I'm not necessarily actively looking to encourage this - just for advice and opinions at this point, mainly. I'm definitely submissive, and this does kind of turn me on in a heart-racing kind of way, but I think my girlfriend is more into it than I am, and I'm not sure I could deal with the consequences.

I'm 21, and my girlfriend is a very attractive blond 20 year old (see pics). We go to the same college, and I'm a year ahead of her (she has a fake ID though, so we're cool on that account, woo). We've been dating for almost two years, and I've been putting together the pieces that whole time - from small comments and confessions here and there, and so on. I'm not sure where to start, so here are some random details.

I have a small/average cock (about 5"), but my girlfriend's exes were much bigger. Her last ex, in particular, was about 9" (or so she claims), and could go 4-5 times in a row (I'm lucky to go twice). She talks about him all the time, and they still talk (texting mainly). She doesn't tell me mine's small, but she has admitted it doesn't feel as good and she wishes I could last longer.

When we first started having sex, we'd go bareback (she's on the pill), but now she never lets me fuck her without a condom (and we have sex much less frequently). Pretty often she just has me go down on her (she likes to sit on my face especially) - if I'm lucky, she'll jerk me off afterward, but not always. Sometimes she'll go down on me, but she never lets me cum in her mouth (even though she let her ex-boyfriends). Once, I tried to convince her to let me, and she said she would if I licked my cum off her tits so it'd be even. I did, but she still won't let me :[

She is really attracted to black guys, and she always points out guys she thinks are hot. She's said more than once that she wishes she had a black baby (I don't know if she means literally - I think she just means that they're cute).

We've talked about threesomes a few times (she's the one that brought it up), and she says she wants to try an MMF but doesn't want to do an MFF. I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'm fairly open to it.

Lately, especially, she's been dressing very sexy and being more openly flirty.

So anyway, I guess I'm asking - does it seem likely that she's leading me down the cuckold path? Is she just open about her sexuality? Or maybe just getting ready to break up with me? Should I be open to the possibility, or is it too drastic a change from our normal relationship? What do you think?

Thanks very much !!

 

[orion]

Don't break up with her. Use her like a tool

 

[kinkyplace]

It's hard to say - I think you know her best and have the best chance to guess her intentions, but I can tell you what I think.
I don't think she's preparing to dump you. If she were, she wouldn't talk like that, she would just dump you. I think she's trying your reactions to see just how far she can push you and it sounds like she is enjoying it.
You said that you're not sure if you want this, but I guess you're not putting up much fight about it either and she sees that. Maybe you're even a little bit aroused by all this and she can see that as well.
I would say that yes - you're going to end up as a cuckold.
And her talk about a MMF threesome - it's a joke. If (when) you'll give your blessing she will bring home some well hung guy and the supposed threesome will be just him fucking her with you doing only watching.

 

[Custer Laststand]

More communication with your woman is needed. (Women like to communicate.)

Omegaboi,

Thanks for posting pics of "the subject," so to speak. She's a hot-looking woman, for sure. Here are some thoughts.

I'm 21, and my girlfriend is a very attractive blond 20 year old (see pics). We go to the same college, and I'm a year ahead of her (she has a fake ID though, so we're cool on that account, woo).

By "fake ID," do you mean she has a fake driver's license with a birthdate indicating she's 21 (not 20), presumably to enable her to buy liquor and drink in bars? If so, is this an indication that when there's something "of value" at stake, her personal honesty is negotiable? If the answer is "yes," you might ask yourself what this suggests about the future of any long-term relationship you might have with her.

We've been dating for almost two years, and I've been putting together the pieces that whole time - from small comments and confessions here and there, and so on. I'm not sure where to start, so here are some random details.

Two years is long enough for you to have developed very good insight into what she's all about.

I have a small/average cock (about 5"), but my girlfriend's exes were much bigger. Her last ex, in particular, was about 9" (or so she claims), and could go 4-5 times in a row (I'm lucky to go twice). She talks about him all the time, and they still talk (texting mainly). She doesn't tell me mine's small, but she has admitted it doesn't feel as good and she wishes I could last longer.

If you have the clear impression your woman has a strong sexual preference for her ex, I suggest asking her why she ended her relationship with him, and if she regrets it, why hasn't she left you and renewed her relationship with him....? This conversation, of course, should be carried out somewhere you and she will have time to talk and not be interrupted. I also suggest getting in touch with her ex for a conversation, and asking him why he ended his relationship with your woman (or she with him)....?

When we first started having sex, we'd go bareback (she's on the pill), but now she never lets me fuck her without a condom (and we have sex much less frequently). Pretty often she just has me go down on her (she likes to sit on my face especially)....

Lots of women find it sexually most satisfying for their man to be their cuntsucker; they can orgasm much more easily that way than via penetrative vaginal intercourse. Also, it sounds like she's training you to be queened regularly by her (if she hasn't already). This too is reasonable and appropriate, if that's what she prefers. (Google "The Fine Art of Queening" [in quotes] for an article and related info on this subject.)

....if I'm lucky, she'll jerk me off afterward, but not always. Sometimes she'll go down on me, but she never lets me cum in her mouth (even though she let her ex-boyfriends). Once, I tried to convince her to let me, and she said she would if I licked my cum off her tits so it'd be even. I did, but she still won't let me. :[

Hm.... does this indicate a tendency to abrogate agreements? In the future, will "a deal not be a deal"?

She is really attracted to black guys, and she always points out guys she thinks are hot. She's said more than once that she wishes she had a black baby (I don't know if she means literally - I think she just means that they're cute).

If you take her at her word that she's really attracted to black men, and if it seems clear she means it when she points out other men (including black men, I gather) she thinks are hot, then I suggest assuming she means it when she says she wishes she had a black baby.

We've talked about threesomes a few times (she's the one that brought it up), and she says she wants to try an MMF but doesn't want to do an MFF.

That sounds like a clear statement of sexual preference. Your woman wants another man (/men) in her life, but she doesn't want you to have another woman. She wants you to be faithful to her.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'm fairly open to it.

That, of course, is up to you (or rather, the two of you).

Lately, especially, she's been dressing very sexy and being more openly flirty.

If by "being more openly flirty" you mean with other men, that's a fairly clear indication your woman is looking for additional men to fuck.

So anyway, I guess I'm asking - does it seem likely she's leading me down the cuckold path?

There are two possible answers: (1) "yes," or (2) "no," she's getting ready to break up with you.

Is she open about her sexuality?

Yes.

Or maybe just getting ready to break up with me?

Given what you've said about your woman, I'd say you can't rule this out with any confidence. Thus, it's time for you to talk with her — seriously and at some length. Basically, you need to ask her whether she sees her relationship with you having any future. If "no," there's probably no point in delaying your breakup any further. If "yes," talk further with her to develop some understanding of why she thinks and feels that way. Then, ask yourself whether you see your relationship with her having any future. If "yes," then keep on keepin' on. If this is the outcome (as opposed to your woman leaving you), it sounds like acceptance on your part will probably be necessary that you will be, in essence, her cuckold (although you won't be married). If you're OK with that, then maybe you and she can have a good relationship.

—Custer

 

[Saraha]

Yes, encourage her to speak freely of how she sees her future with you, and whether she is wanting lovers to be part of your marriage with her. Better to know ahead of time what is going to be the "norm", so you can prepare mentally to accept/or flee.

"future shocks" can be avoided if you ask the questions and help her to answer truthfully and without judgement.

 

[mimi27406]

You are so lucky

Saraha, stole my thunder. LOL. You are lucky, and she is letting you know the score, and if you are not comfortable with it you can bail out, but if you wish you can be in heaven. Communication is the key to all relationships, you know what she is saying, you do want it, but you wonder what otlhers will think. Forget others and become the cuck you want to be.

 

[omegaboi]

Thanks for your replies and input everyone !

It's hard to say - I think you know her best and have the best chance to guess her intentions, but I can tell you what I think.
I don't think she's preparing to dump you. If she were, she wouldn't talk like that, she would just dump you. I think she's trying your reactions to see just how far she can push you and it sounds like she is enjoying it.
You said that you're not sure if you want this, but I guess you're not putting up much fight about it either and she sees that. Maybe you're even a little bit aroused by all this and she can see that as well.
I would say that yes - you're going to end up as a cuckold.
And her talk about a MMF threesome - it's a joke. If (when) you'll give your blessing she will bring home some well hung guy and the supposed threesome will be just him fucking her with you doing only watching.

I think you're definitely right about her seeing how far she can push me and enjoying it. She was surprised at first that I liked when she dressed sexy, and she's progressively been dressing sexier and sexier (even shorter skirts, even without underwear a couple times).

Would an MMF "threesome" be a good first step to see how I really feel about this, if I like it, and if I can deal with it?
We have talked about in detail kinda (while having sex), and she thinks it would be hot if I licked her clit while she got fucked.

By "fake ID," do you mean she has a fake driver's license with a birthdate indicating she's 21 (not 20), presumably to enable her to buy liquor and drink in bars? If so, is this an indication that when there's something "of value" at stake, her personal honesty is negotiable? If the answer is "yes," you might ask yourself what this suggests about the future of any long-term relationship you might have with her.

That is what I mean, and that is a good point.

If you have the clear impression your woman has a strong sexual preference for her ex, I suggest asking her why she ended her relationship with him, and if she regrets it, why hasn't she left you and renewed her relationship with him....? This conversation, of course, should be carried out somewhere you and she will have time to talk and not be interrupted. I also suggest getting in touch with her ex for a conversation, and asking him why he ended his relationship with your woman (or she with him)....?

We've kinda talked about this. I guess they broke up because he cheated and her and lied to her and generally treated her badly. After they broke up, they continued to hook up randomly for some time, though.

Lots of women find it sexually most satisfying for their man to be their cuntsucker; they can orgasm much more easily that way than via penetrative vaginal intercourse. Also, it sounds like she's training you to be queened regularly by her (if she hasn't already). This too is reasonable and appropriate, if that's what she prefers. (Google "The Fine Art of Queening" [in quotes] for an article and related info on this subject.)

Hot article. Lately she's also liked me to finger her with more fingers (we're up to five now - can't quite fit a whole fist yet) while I lick her, too.

If you take her at her word that she's really attracted to black men, and if it seems clear she means it when she points out other men (including black men, I gather) she thinks are hot, then I suggest assuming she means it when she says she wishes she had a black baby.

You might be right. She's often asked me what I would do if we broke up and got back together years later, but she had had a kid in the meantime.

She's on the pill, but she's really bad at taking it regularly lately, which is part of the reason she won't let me fuck her without a condom anymore. She says she really likes the feeling of getting cummed in, though.

If by "being more openly flirty" you mean with other men, that's a fairly clear indication your woman is looking for additional men to fuck.

Yeah, this. She's been real flirty with guys in general, even when I'm around.

Thanks again everyone ! Here's some more pics of her, too:

 

[Custer Laststand]

Here's a homework assignment. (Sorry.... hope you don't mind.)

Omegaboi,

Thanks for the additional pics of your beautiful woman. She looks fun and sexy.

I think you're definitely right about her seeing how far she can push me and enjoying it. She was surprised at first that I liked when she dressed sexy, and she's progressively been dressing sexier and sexier (even shorter skirts, even without underwear a couple times).

Cool.... sounds like she likes flaunting her considerable assets, and is relieved to realize you aren't tight-assed about that so she's “forging ahead.”

Would an MMF "threesome" be a good first step to see how I really feel about this, if I like it, and if I can deal with it?

If that's what your woman wants, I'd say move ahead with it.... set it up and try it.

We have talked about [this] in detail (while having sex), and she thinks it would be hot if I licked her clit while she got fucked.

Ah.... so she does want it. I would suggest encouraging her to pick the "additional man" and make the arrangements, since she probably has someone in mind (her ex....?).

We've kinda talked about [why my woman broke up with her ex]. I guess they broke up because he cheated and her and lied to her and generally treated her badly.

Those sounds like good reasons, from her point of view. This suggests she is not debating with herself whether to leave you in order to re-establish her relationship with him (i.e., he apparently is not someone she would want as a long-term partner).

After they broke up, they continued to hook up randomly for some time, though.

But, she's turned on sexually by him and likes fucking him, it sounds like. This sort of thing is not unusual.... there are many women who want a marriage or LTR partner who treats them well and they like as a friend, and who appears likely to be reliable in terms of providing a good income (the modern equivalent of being a good hunter), and also appears likely to be a good father re. raising their children (or likely to be a good daddy, so to speak, for their children sired by other men) — but, at the same time, they tend to be sexually attracted to "macho-men" for what amount to instinctive genetic reasons. I.e., they feel intuitively that such men — particularly if they seem intelligent, in addition to being physically strong and assertive — have genes they want to pass along to their children, although they don't want to live with such a man (because, perhaps, he's obnoxious and treats them badly).

Hot article ["The Fine Art of Queening"]. Lately she's also liked me to finger her with more fingers (we're up to five now - can't quite fit a whole fist yet) while I lick her, too.

Yeah, really. If you're moving your woman toward being capable of accepting being "fisted" by you (with your hand “very” well-lubricated…. for more on this, google "fisting" — even Wikipedia has an article on it), especially while you're sucking her clitoris, that may enable her to attain very intense orgasms as a result of her G-spot and clitoris being stimulated simultaneously. The more sexual satisfaction you can provide her with the better off you'll be, so you're moving in the right direction. Also, “fisting” doesn’t depend on you being able to get it up, so you can use it to satisfy your woman whenever she wants it.

Something else you might consider along these lines would be for the two of you to go to a sex shop and purchase a realistic-looking vibrating dildo of suitable size, then use it (well lubricated, of course, with something like "Astroglide") to bring her to orgasm while sucking her clit.... then, when she becomes accustomed to the size, go out with her and purchase a larger vibrating dildo. This too (like fisting, gently carried out) may be a way for you to give her increasingly intense orgasms. If she's attracted to black men, you could purchase realistic-looking black dildo's of increasing size (and give each one a name). Vibrating dildo's can also be purchased via the Internet, of course, if they aren't available locally.

You might be right [re. her stated desire to have a child by a black man]. She's often asked me what I would do if we broke up and got back together years later, but she had had a kid in the meantime.

Regarding women having children by men other than their long-term partner, I suggest (actually, strongly recommend) reading:

“Sperm Wars: The Science of Sex,” by Robin Baker, Ph.D. (1996, BasicBooks, 319 pp).

The author is an evolutionary biologist; it’s a “science for the layperson” book that’s well-written, easy-to-read and fascinating. I almost guarantee you’ll feel enlightened; it will change your view of woman/man relationships forever.

She's on the pill, but she's really bad at taking it regularly lately, which is part of the reason she won't let me fuck her without a condom anymore. She says she really likes the feeling of being cummed in, though.

I’d say there’s a double message there....

She's been real flirty with guys in general, even when I'm around.

Hm…. to get a better feel for the direction your woman is moving you in (and hence, perhaps, for the future of your relationship with her if it becomes long-term), I also suggest reading:

“Female Domination: an exploration of the male desire for loving female authority,” by Elise Sutton (2003, 298 pp.)

and/or reading Ms. Sutton’s web site:
Elise Sutton's Female Superiority Page
(her book is more comprehensive.... she's also published a sequel).

Good luck. Your woman sounds interesting.

—Custer

 

[lickerboy]

You must do some inner soul searching. Clearly the cuckold lifestyle isn't for everyone. It takes a real commitment and some real discretion to make this work.
Marrying a woman and raising and loving her black cuckold children is the probably the real cuckold's dream marriage.
The question you need to ask yourself is: do you want to be a cuckold? IF the answer is yes, then tell her... she is ready

IF the answer is no... please please please send her to me.

 

[lickerboy]

You must do some inner soul searching. Clearly the cuckold lifestyle isn't for everyone. It takes a real commitment and some real discretion to make this work.
Marrying a woman and raising and loving her black cuckold children is probably the real cuckold's dream marriage.
The question you need to ask yourself is: do you want to be a cuckold? IF the answer is yes, then tell her... she is ready

IF the answer is no... please please please send her to me.

 

[Bradley]

Dump her now

It will fuck you up. Get a girl that respects you. If you aren't begging for this behavior already, then you aren't a cuck. Seek a normal relationship while you can. Just 2 cents.

 

[Saraha]

Many cucks don't want a wife to respect them, but rather a bossy one that dominates them and takes over the decision making. Obedience means that there is no longer a struggle trying to guess what a wife wants, she tells him so he does not get it wrong anymore.

 

[toplessgypsy]

back to the beginning post - sounds like shes telling you that shes moving on, dragging you along. Doesnt sound like hints of wanting to please YOU in any way. After my first "we'll call it an affair", I was very clear as to what I would do and wanted. we settled it right away. There was no guessing or playing a game that this sounds like.