Well, Tom called. It was a pretty short conversation. He said that he was interested in doing more than just flirting with Karin. I said something like "I understand." He said something like "You don't object?" I said "Karin makes her own decisions, and I respect them." Tom said "Oh, by the way, like I said last night, Julia is off limits to you. Now and forever." I replied "I understand. Please use protection." To which Tom replied "Well, like you said, that decision is up to Karin." and laughed. I felt humiliated, and then realized that I was hard.
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OneForSure,
You're welcome.
OK. That background makes Tom's visit to "borrow tools," and your wife's greeting (so to speak) when he appeared at your door, a bit more clear.
Yes, I imagine you would be....
Hm.... sounds like you and Julia are counterparts — her with respect to Tom, you with respect to your dominant wife. Maybe this isn't a disaster waiting to happen after all....
Next post, of today:
Awright....
Sounds like once he thought about it and made his decision, he was able to state it briefly.
Cool....
Good reply.
Another good reply.
Ah... he clarified the kind of relationship he expects to have you your wife (and you).
Yet another good reply.
Ah, an excellent reply from Tom....
Sounds like you're learning more about yourself as your boss cuckoldress's pending affair with your neighbor develops. I hope this works out well for all concerned. I hafta' say, it now sounds intriguing.
Best regards—
Custer
OneForSure said:
You're welcome.
OneForSure said:
OK. That background makes Tom's visit to "borrow tools," and your wife's greeting (so to speak) when he appeared at your door, a bit more clear.
OneForSure said:
Yes, I imagine you would be....
OneForSure said:
Hm.... sounds like you and Julia are counterparts — her with respect to Tom, you with respect to your dominant wife. Maybe this isn't a disaster waiting to happen after all....
Next post, of today:
OneForSure said:
Awright....
OneForSure said:
Sounds like once he thought about it and made his decision, he was able to state it briefly.
OneForSure said:
Cool....
OneForSure said:
Good reply.
OneForSure said:
Another good reply.
OneForSure said:
Ah... he clarified the kind of relationship he expects to have you your wife (and you).
OneForSure said:
Yet another good reply.
OneForSure said:
Ah, an excellent reply from Tom....
OneForSure said:
Sounds like you're learning more about yourself as your boss cuckoldress's pending affair with your neighbor develops. I hope this works out well for all concerned. I hafta' say, it now sounds intriguing.
Best regards—
Custer
I can relate a lot to your situation. I went and continue to go through all of the emotions you are now dealing with. I feel that I will never completely be comfortable with all of the feelings that I go through, yet I still crave it. It's like my cock and my brain are at war about why I let my wife have lovers and I hate it and love it at the same time. I want her to be in control and I want her to enjoy herself, but part of me wonders why I want it and why I helped create it. The other thing that is the same is that when she is involved with another man, I rarely get to make love to her. I can use my tongue or fingers, but not my penis. In a weird way it's like she is being faithful to the one that she is infatuated with. That is really hard to deal with as well, but I cope. I wish I could tell you it gets easier, but it doesn't. It's like an addiction....
Discussion
Well, not much to report today. Karin and I had a discussion. I expressed my love for her and my devotion to her every need. I told her how much I enjoyed being her cuckold (even though I am still working through some major emotions), and told her about my conversations with Tom. She again indicated that she was going to fuck him, and that I'd better get used to that. I said I understood, and encouraged her to follow through.
We talked about protection. I started it off with telling her how much I loved her and how I would be upset if anything bad happened to her. She understood my concern and indicated that she would think about it. She said that she was selecting her partners carefully, and didn't expect any problems. I mentioned that I knew from previous discussions that Tom was a bit of a player, and I had purchased some condoms for their use (Thanks Custer for that suggestion). She something like "OK put a couple in my purse. I'm not promising anything."
I also mentioned that I really wanted to fuck her after one of her other partners had finished. She said something like "I would hardly be able to feel your little cock." I quickly said "I just wanted to be letting you know what I'm feeling." to which she sais something like "Well, that's good, but don't get your hopes up too much."
At this point things are going along OK, but I've still got mixed feelings, enjoying being a cuck, but wishing I use more than my tongue on Karin's wet pussy.
Well, not much to report today. Karin and I had a discussion. I expressed my love for her and my devotion to her every need. I told her how much I enjoyed being her cuckold (even though I am still working through some major emotions), and told her about my conversations with Tom. She again indicated that she was going to fuck him, and that I'd better get used to that. I said I understood, and encouraged her to follow through.
We talked about protection. I started it off with telling her how much I loved her and how I would be upset if anything bad happened to her. She understood my concern and indicated that she would think about it. She said that she was selecting her partners carefully, and didn't expect any problems. I mentioned that I knew from previous discussions that Tom was a bit of a player, and I had purchased some condoms for their use (Thanks Custer for that suggestion). She something like "OK put a couple in my purse. I'm not promising anything."
I also mentioned that I really wanted to fuck her after one of her other partners had finished. She said something like "I would hardly be able to feel your little cock." I quickly said "I just wanted to be letting you know what I'm feeling." to which she sais something like "Well, that's good, but don't get your hopes up too much."
At this point things are going along OK, but I've still got mixed feelings, enjoying being a cuck, but wishing I use more than my tongue on Karin's wet pussy.
New discussion
Tonight Karin and I talked about a new issue. Out of the blue she asked if I had been masturbation without her present. I sort of stammered and said "Why do you ask?" Well early on we had both read the Around Her Finger website, and we had agreed that she would control my orgasms.
She said "From some of your attitudes during the past couple of days you seem to not be attentive to me and my needs. If I EVER have evidence that you have masturbated on your own and have not confessed, you will be punished"
Well, I confessed on the spot. Now she's talking about a chastity device. Should I welcome this?
Tonight Karin and I talked about a new issue. Out of the blue she asked if I had been masturbation without her present. I sort of stammered and said "Why do you ask?" Well early on we had both read the Around Her Finger website, and we had agreed that she would control my orgasms.
She said "From some of your attitudes during the past couple of days you seem to not be attentive to me and my needs. If I EVER have evidence that you have masturbated on your own and have not confessed, you will be punished"
Well, I confessed on the spot. Now she's talking about a chastity device. Should I welcome this?
A bit of an update...more to follow.
Karin directed me to buy a chastity device - the CB-6000. It arrived last week, and I have been locked pretty much ever since. It has taken some time to adjust, waking up several times a night with my cock trying to get hard, but being restrained. I guess this is how it's going to be from now on.
Karin and Tom have shall I say "enjoyed each other's company", and I will go into some detail soon. Tom particularly delights in seeing my caged cock, which is rather humulating for me.
Karin directed me to buy a chastity device - the CB-6000. It arrived last week, and I have been locked pretty much ever since. It has taken some time to adjust, waking up several times a night with my cock trying to get hard, but being restrained. I guess this is how it's going to be from now on.
Karin and Tom have shall I say "enjoyed each other's company", and I will go into some detail soon. Tom particularly delights in seeing my caged cock, which is rather humulating for me.
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Your wife has moved forward rapidly....
OneForSure,
Oh, oh. Your wife is a stern woman.
Um... well... I don't have the impression you're going to have much say about it. By way of considering it, perhaps you and your wife would be interested in this link:
Making Him Your Dream Man: Male Chastity FAQ
Whoa. That was quick. But on the plus side, the 6000 is apparently considered something of an improvement over the earlier CB models.
It sounds like your wife locked up your cock cold turkey and has required you to wear your chastity device ever since. Is that the case? No "gradually wearing it longer & longer" as a break-in period? What has the psychological effect of this been on you?
Yes, I would think so....
That must be a sobering thought....
Ah, so you are a cuckold now twice over....
Hm.... it sounds like Karin is allowing you to watch while she fucks Tom, but requires you to be nude with your chastity device on display. Is that the case? Speaking of which, was requiring you to wear a chastity device Karin's idea, do you suppose, or Tom's?
Yes, I would think so. Your boss cuckoldress has moved forward rapidly with increased domination and humiliation of you, combined with assertion of her right to fuck whomever she pleases. Will look forward to further updates regarding how you're doing with respect to all this.
—Custer
OneForSure,
OneForSure said:
Oh, oh. Your wife is a stern woman.
OneForSure said:
Um... well... I don't have the impression you're going to have much say about it. By way of considering it, perhaps you and your wife would be interested in this link:
Making Him Your Dream Man: Male Chastity FAQ
OneForSure said:
Whoa. That was quick. But on the plus side, the 6000 is apparently considered something of an improvement over the earlier CB models.
OneForSure said:
It sounds like your wife locked up your cock cold turkey and has required you to wear your chastity device ever since. Is that the case? No "gradually wearing it longer & longer" as a break-in period? What has the psychological effect of this been on you?
OneForSure said:
Yes, I would think so....
OneForSure said:
That must be a sobering thought....
OneForSure said:
Ah, so you are a cuckold now twice over....
OneForSure said:
Hm.... it sounds like Karin is allowing you to watch while she fucks Tom, but requires you to be nude with your chastity device on display.
Is that the case? Speaking of which, was requiring you to wear a chastity device Karin's idea, do you suppose, or Tom's?OneForSure said:
Yes, I would think so. Your boss cuckoldress has moved forward rapidly with increased domination and humiliation of you, combined with assertion of her right to fuck whomever she pleases. Will look forward to further updates regarding how you're doing with respect to all this.
—Custer
All good questions from Custer. I definitely want to chime in and say that you seem to have completely lost control of this marriage. For a lot of men, that's the end goal, but you seemed hesitant at the beginning. How are you feeling about it now? Do you think that Karin getting complete control of your dick is a good thing or a bad thing? How do you feel about Karin disregarding your concerns over her using protection?
I had computer problems and was unable to post for quite a while, but will catch up today!
Custer, in answer to your questions, Karin did give two days for me to get used to the CB-6000. The only real problem I have is at night when I start to get hard it wakes me up. It took a while, but now I'm used to it! Having said that, Karin is now assured that I cannot masturbate without her knowledge.
When Tom comes over to the house I am required to be nude, except for the CB-6000. I am not often in the room when the fucking is going on. Tom does smirk at me a lot. I pretty much think the CB was Karin's idea. She noticed that I was not being as attentive as usual, and after I come she says that it's often the case that I'm less attentive.
Albany, I'm not feeling like I've lost control, bacause when Karin and I decided on a Female led relationship, I readily gave up control. I was hesitant about her cuckolding me, and was on an emotional rollercoaster at first, but feel a little better about thing now, even though things went really fast for a while. Karin having complete control of my dick is definately a good thing. I'll say more about the use of protection in my next post later today, but she IS using protection!
Custer, in answer to your questions, Karin did give two days for me to get used to the CB-6000. The only real problem I have is at night when I start to get hard it wakes me up. It took a while, but now I'm used to it! Having said that, Karin is now assured that I cannot masturbate without her knowledge.
When Tom comes over to the house I am required to be nude, except for the CB-6000. I am not often in the room when the fucking is going on. Tom does smirk at me a lot. I pretty much think the CB was Karin's idea. She noticed that I was not being as attentive as usual, and after I come she says that it's often the case that I'm less attentive.
Albany, I'm not feeling like I've lost control, bacause when Karin and I decided on a Female led relationship, I readily gave up control. I was hesitant about her cuckolding me, and was on an emotional rollercoaster at first, but feel a little better about thing now, even though things went really fast for a while. Karin having complete control of my dick is definately a good thing. I'll say more about the use of protection in my next post later today, but she IS using protection!
Thanks for the update....
OneForSure,
You're welcome. Good to hear your wife didn't reject that idea.
Hm.... two days doesn't sound like much , but I guess it's better than cold turkey.
That's good to hear. At least your wife doesn't require you to wear "Kali's teeth" (sp?) with your chastity device. That would definitely make it painful whenever you attempted an erection. Since you've been wearing it since Oct. 13 (or shortly thereafter), it sounds like you've adapted well and it doesn't chafe and isn't otherwise painful. Is that the case?
Well, if that's what she wants, there seems to be no doubt that's what she has....
Ah, so your wife delights in humiliating you . Someone commented a while back, on this forum I think, that few things are more humiliating than wearing a chastity device in the presence of a man who is fucking your wife. Evidently you're in a position, now, to comment on that.
Hm.... sounds like your wife's preference is to fuck privately, perhaps so she can focus all her attention on her lover.... rather than humiliate you even further by fucking her lover in front of you.
On the whole, I guess I would say he sounds like an asshole.
If so, good for her. Your wife sounds like an assertive woman .
Hm.... that's very perceptive on her part. Evidently that's what you wanted. It sounds like you've adapted well.
Excellent. Your wife is a wise woman. The mere fact she selected a seemingly-respectable married man to fuck does not mean he is free of STDs — although a random married man would probably more likely be "clean" than a random single man. Your wife's lover being something of a player, though (as you put it), increases the probability he is not "clean." Your wife — hence you — has paid her money (in effect) and made her choice; ergo, it's good she is using protection.
I'll look forward to hearing more from you.
Regards—
Custer
OneForSure,
OneForSure said:
You're welcome. Good to hear your wife didn't reject that idea.
OneForSure said:
Hm.... two days doesn't sound like much
, but I guess it's better than cold turkey.OneForSure said:
That's good to hear.
At least your wife doesn't require you to wear "Kali's teeth" (sp?) with your chastity device. That would definitely make it painful whenever you attempted an erection. Since you've been wearing it since Oct. 13 (or shortly thereafter), it sounds like you've adapted well and it doesn't chafe and isn't otherwise painful. Is that the case? OneForSure said:
Well, if that's what she wants, there seems to be no doubt that's what she has....
OneForSure said:
Ah, so your wife delights in humiliating you
. Someone commented a while back, on this forum I think, that few things are more humiliating than wearing a chastity device in the presence of a man who is fucking your wife. Evidently you're in a position, now, to comment on that. OneForSure said:
Hm.... sounds like your wife's preference is to fuck privately, perhaps so she can focus all her attention on her lover.... rather than humiliate you even further by fucking her lover in front of you.
OneForSure said:
On the whole, I guess I would say he sounds like an asshole.
OneForSure said:
If so, good for her. Your wife sounds like an assertive woman
. OneForSure said:
Hm.... that's very perceptive on her part. Evidently that's what you wanted. It sounds like you've adapted well.
OneForSure said:
Excellent. Your wife is a wise woman. The mere fact she selected a seemingly-respectable married man to fuck does not mean he is free of STDs — although a random married man would probably more likely be "clean" than a random single man. Your wife's lover being something of a player, though (as you put it), increases the probability he is not "clean." Your wife — hence you — has paid her money (in effect) and made her choice; ergo, it's good she is using protection.
I'll look forward to hearing more from you.
Regards—
Custer
As promised, I am bringing things up to date.
A few days after Tom called and asked if I objected to "more than flirting" with Karin, he called again. He said that he was ready to return my tools and move things along to the "next level" with Karin.
He then asked "And what REALLY turns her on?" I sort of was stunned for a second. My first thought was "Find out for yourself", but then I realized that I WANTED things to move along, so I told him how sensitive her ears and neck are, and how you really need to get her worked up before stroking her cunt.
Tom then asked to talk to Karin. When I told her who was on the phone, she told me to leave the room. She wanted to work out all the details without me present.
They talked for close to an hour. When Karin came out of our bedroom, she was grinning ear to ear. She told me that Tom was returning my tools the next night, and that when the two of them went into the bedroom, I was to leave the house, and not return for at least an hour.
The next afternoon, Karin took her time getting ready. She picked one of her sexy tops, a thong, and tight pants. It was obvious that she was excited. Her nipples were obviously poking through the thin fabric of her top. Finally the doorbel rang. As previously arranged, I opened the door to find Tom in a muscle shirt, and shorts, carrying my tools, which he quickly handed to me.
As soon as the door closed, he hugged Karin, whispered something to her, and started kissing her ear. She giggled, and he moved on to her neck, then her boobs, and within 3 minutes had her moaning. Her top was quickly discarded, and her shorts immediately followed suit!
Not to be outdone, Karin pulled down Tom's shorts, and started to rub his cock through his boxers. The boxers were quickly discarded, as was the muscle shirt. I saw that Tom's cock was not that much longer than mine, but was thicker.
So now here was my wife in a only a thong, with my neighbor completely nude getting ready to make me a cuckold for the second time! He moved his hands down to her pussy, and Karin began to press against his hand. I was really hard!
Karin then told me that it was time for me to leave. I got in the car, and drove around for the next hour. When I got back, was quiet. I knocked on the bedroom door, and was told to come in. They were lying on the bed in each other's arms. Karin said "I came four times. Tom is a real hunk!" Tom was grinning and said something like "I fucked you wife in he ass as well as doggie style in her cunt. She is really hot."
There were two full condoms on the floor. Tom went into the bathroom to take a shower, and Karin told me to clean up the room and wash the sheets. As soon as she left the room I started cleaning the room, and masturbated thinking about another man's cock in my wife's pussy and ass.
A few days after Tom called and asked if I objected to "more than flirting" with Karin, he called again. He said that he was ready to return my tools and move things along to the "next level" with Karin.
He then asked "And what REALLY turns her on?" I sort of was stunned for a second. My first thought was "Find out for yourself", but then I realized that I WANTED things to move along, so I told him how sensitive her ears and neck are, and how you really need to get her worked up before stroking her cunt.
Tom then asked to talk to Karin. When I told her who was on the phone, she told me to leave the room. She wanted to work out all the details without me present.
They talked for close to an hour. When Karin came out of our bedroom, she was grinning ear to ear. She told me that Tom was returning my tools the next night, and that when the two of them went into the bedroom, I was to leave the house, and not return for at least an hour.
The next afternoon, Karin took her time getting ready. She picked one of her sexy tops, a thong, and tight pants. It was obvious that she was excited. Her nipples were obviously poking through the thin fabric of her top. Finally the doorbel rang. As previously arranged, I opened the door to find Tom in a muscle shirt, and shorts, carrying my tools, which he quickly handed to me.
As soon as the door closed, he hugged Karin, whispered something to her, and started kissing her ear. She giggled, and he moved on to her neck, then her boobs, and within 3 minutes had her moaning. Her top was quickly discarded, and her shorts immediately followed suit!
Not to be outdone, Karin pulled down Tom's shorts, and started to rub his cock through his boxers. The boxers were quickly discarded, as was the muscle shirt. I saw that Tom's cock was not that much longer than mine, but was thicker.
So now here was my wife in a only a thong, with my neighbor completely nude getting ready to make me a cuckold for the second time! He moved his hands down to her pussy, and Karin began to press against his hand. I was really hard!
Karin then told me that it was time for me to leave. I got in the car, and drove around for the next hour. When I got back, was quiet. I knocked on the bedroom door, and was told to come in. They were lying on the bed in each other's arms. Karin said "I came four times. Tom is a real hunk!" Tom was grinning and said something like "I fucked you wife in he ass as well as doggie style in her cunt. She is really hot."
There were two full condoms on the floor. Tom went into the bathroom to take a shower, and Karin told me to clean up the room and wash the sheets. As soon as she left the room I started cleaning the room, and masturbated thinking about another man's cock in my wife's pussy and ass.
Unfortunately, Karin refuses to let me take pictures of her when she is not fully clothed. She is insistant.
It was after Tom and Karin had the first encounter at our house that the CB-6000 was purchased, and I was required to be nude when Tom is over. I wear a bathrobe to answer the door, and once the door is closed, I am told to remove it. Quite humbling!
It was after Tom and Karin had the first encounter at our house that the CB-6000 was purchased, and I was required to be nude when Tom is over. I wear a bathrobe to answer the door, and once the door is closed, I am told to remove it. Quite humbling!
Yes, but it seems better than having to drive around while your wife fucks her lover.
OneForSure,
Ah, yes.... masturbating while thinking of your wife being fucked by her lover, while cleaning up her bedroom per her instructions, is in the best tradition of cuckold husbands....
.... whose wives have not perceived the advantages of requiring them to wear chastity devices. Obviously, however, your wife has now corrected that oversight.
Yes, I imagine having your wife requiring you to be nude, wearing only your chastity device, when her lover comes to visit must be quite humiliating. It seems better, though, than being required to leave your home while they fuck and drive around for an hour or so. I mean, the price of gas has come down a fair amount, but it isn't *that* cheap.
Thanks for the update—
Custer
OneForSure,
OneForSure said:
Ah, yes.... masturbating while thinking of your wife being fucked by her lover, while cleaning up her bedroom per her instructions, is in the best tradition of cuckold husbands....
OneForSure said:
.... whose wives have not perceived the advantages of requiring them to wear chastity devices. Obviously, however, your wife has now corrected that oversight.
OneForSure said:
Yes, I imagine having your wife requiring you to be nude, wearing only your chastity device, when her lover comes to visit must be quite humiliating. It seems better, though, than being required to leave your home while they fuck and drive around for an hour or so. I mean, the price of gas has come down a fair amount, but it isn't *that* cheap.
Thanks for the update—
Custer
Thanks Custer for the comments! You really think things out well and express youreself excellently!
Well, earlier this week Tom and Karin met at our house for some time together. They wanted me there for the entire time. My emotions were all over the place which surprised me a bit. I thought I had things under control, but I don't.
Tom rang the bell, and as required I opened the door in my robe. As soon as I closed the door, I had to remove my robe - and Tom sort of had this snide grin on his face. He told me that they had decided that I would watch tonight.
Karin came downstairs fully dressed. She went right to Tom & hugged him. He kissed her passionately on the mouth, moving quickly to her ear, and finally dropping down to her neck, She quickly responded, and his hand moved to her right breast. The other hand began unbuttoning the buttons on her top, which quickly dropped to the floor. In short order her bra was off, and he started on her pants. With the pants on the floor, he carried her to the sofa.
He quickly unzipped his pants and pulled down her panties. He was at least seven inches, and hard as could be. My cock was straining in the CB-6000, but it was to restrained to get an errection. Karin reminded Tom to use a condom, and amazingly he did use one! He plunged his hard cock into her now soaked pussy and she yelled his name!
As I watched my wife being thoroughly fucked my emotions went from excitement to jealousy, to excitement.
It seemed like they fucked for hours. I did get to lick Karin's soaked pussy, and that was wonderful!
After it was all over I had to clean everything up. Tom left saying that he'd be back in a few days.
Will the emotional rollercoaster ever lighten up?
Well, earlier this week Tom and Karin met at our house for some time together. They wanted me there for the entire time. My emotions were all over the place which surprised me a bit. I thought I had things under control, but I don't.
Tom rang the bell, and as required I opened the door in my robe. As soon as I closed the door, I had to remove my robe - and Tom sort of had this snide grin on his face. He told me that they had decided that I would watch tonight.
Karin came downstairs fully dressed. She went right to Tom & hugged him. He kissed her passionately on the mouth, moving quickly to her ear, and finally dropping down to her neck, She quickly responded, and his hand moved to her right breast. The other hand began unbuttoning the buttons on her top, which quickly dropped to the floor. In short order her bra was off, and he started on her pants. With the pants on the floor, he carried her to the sofa.
He quickly unzipped his pants and pulled down her panties. He was at least seven inches, and hard as could be. My cock was straining in the CB-6000, but it was to restrained to get an errection. Karin reminded Tom to use a condom, and amazingly he did use one! He plunged his hard cock into her now soaked pussy and she yelled his name!
As I watched my wife being thoroughly fucked my emotions went from excitement to jealousy, to excitement.
It seemed like they fucked for hours. I did get to lick Karin's soaked pussy, and that was wonderful!
After it was all over I had to clean everything up. Tom left saying that he'd be back in a few days.
Will the emotional rollercoaster ever lighten up?
Bill,
I enjoyed seeing Karin being pleasured in a way that I can't pleasure her. Licking her pussy after was exciting and humiliating. Tom's snicker didn't help.
Some more updating.
Karin is through with Tom. It turned out that he came over on Saturday night. He wanted to get into tying Karin (and me) up. He secured me to a chair, and Karin spread eagle on the bed. What he had not told us was his plan to wax Karin. She has trimmed her pussy neatly lately, and was very proud of her landing strip. Now it's gone! She was VERY angry, and threw Tom out.
I figure she'll now go back to Paul, but I'm not sure if she'll want to wait until her landing strip grows back or not. Should I suggest that she remain bare?
I enjoyed seeing Karin being pleasured in a way that I can't pleasure her. Licking her pussy after was exciting and humiliating. Tom's snicker didn't help.
Some more updating.
Karin is through with Tom. It turned out that he came over on Saturday night. He wanted to get into tying Karin (and me) up. He secured me to a chair, and Karin spread eagle on the bed. What he had not told us was his plan to wax Karin. She has trimmed her pussy neatly lately, and was very proud of her landing strip. Now it's gone! She was VERY angry, and threw Tom out.
I figure she'll now go back to Paul, but I'm not sure if she'll want to wait until her landing strip grows back or not. Should I suggest that she remain bare?
