Can anyone give me a straight answer?...

[dl_stevens]

I apologize in advance for the length of this post, but it is necessary to fully explain my situation and ask for insight. Please bare with me.

Sooo, with that being said... can anyone give me a straight answer as to why women (including my woman/women) are clearly turned on by the throught of being fucked by other men?

My ex-wife brought up the idea me having sex with other women. Couldn't make sense of her unending desire to see me fuck another woman. Then, long story short, over time, she asked if I was turned on by the thought of her getting nailed by other guys. Turned out what she really WANTED was to get nailed by other guys (and ended up doing just that).

I couldn't make sense of that, from a woman who proclaimed her undying love for me. What ended up happening was...well, I became pretty turned on by the thought of her getting railed by a huge cock.

She told me she was into women after we were together for a little while. Then she started flirting with guys she worked with, who clearly really wanted a piece of that, and she started getting "tough" with me when I would call her out for dressing seductively to work (short mini-skirt, stilleto , and a tight top), about how she was leading guys on with her actions and attire.

Anyway, she kind of led me to getting her a big dildo that squirted cum, and I became really turned on by watching her stand it upright on the bed and ride it like I wasn't even there.

Long story short, there was a guy that was always hitting on her...and he was clearly "afraid" of me (I'm a pretty big strong guy), but he wanted to fuck her bad, and she quite clearly (and secretly) liked the idea of him wanting it despite the risk that I might whoop his ass for doing it.

After some fantasy for about a year, she told me one day that she would come pick me up (we were sharing a car b/c hers was in the shop). She said she was at the Sprint store, and it was taking a long time. LATER she told me she went to his house, he totally took control and made his employees who were there for a meeting leave when she grinningly strutted into the bathroom in her mini-skirt, heels, and black thigh highs, and then proceeded to rip her clothes off, nail her bareback, and came on her stomach...

She said it was a huge load, and he scooped it into her mouth, and scooped it onto his cock and slid it into her pussy. I was surprised that it turned me on as much as it did, but it kind of pissed me off that he not only so eagerly fucked her without a second worth of hesitation, but that he -- in my opinion -- acted in such a way as to "mark" her or show dominance, or a claim over her.

Not only that, but she initially tried to tell me that his cock was "just ok" sized, but later bragged that it made her cum faster than anyone had ever made her (which also kind of ticked me off because she always told me that she never came until she was with someone for a couple months, and I was the fastest to do it before that).

Of course, she fucked him a couple more times (that I knew about anyway) and then she stopped telling me about it and claimed she wasn't into him anymore..but talked about other guys we knew..always telling me after sex that she wasn't serious and wouldn't do that again).

That didn't stop her, however, from continuing to get turned on when I would talk about different ways she could get fucked by different guys. She would quiver and grab me tight when I would talk about naughty things with different guys we knew, especially when I would tell her "I heard they are huge, so you're not allowed to have it". That's when she would playfully jab back "you can either set it up, or I'll do it myself"

about a year later, we ran into some non-sex related problems and divorced (really long story, having nothing to do with this part of our relationship). Strangely, I have continued to be REALLY turned on by that, and often fantasize about what kind of naughty things she's been involved in since we split up...

Which brings me to the woman I've been with for the last 3 years....(next post)...

 

[Anubis_30]

...so then, because I thought I needed to change my ways with women, I started dating a wholesome girl, who is an only child, half Brazilian/half American...very clean cut and intelligent (law school grad with an MBA), and who is critical of people like my ex wife who attracts negative attention and who comes across rather prudish.

The problem with her was, though, my sexual desire remained very very attracted to my ex wife. Although my girlfriend is SMOKING hot, she was, to be quite frank, sexually boring. I just couldn't get really excited by having sex with her.

I couldn't wait to have sex with her the first time, but once I did, I found that she really was NOT turned on by my naughty fantasies when I tried to talk to her about them during sex. I mentioned having a threesome with a girl in the past, and she looked down on me like I was some kind of pervert. She mentioned telling her cousin who lives in Curitiba (Parana, Brazil) that I said most women are attracted to other women, and then told me that her cousins thought I was some kind of nasty freak, lol.

...

but, next thing I know....

 

[Anubis_30]

...after I took the Bar exam, I had been up on very little sleep and was on a super high from finishing the most difficult challenge of my life, and got pretty wasted afterwards. I had her pick me up and went over to her apartment. We started messing around, and I started hinting that "girls don't really want other girls"...yadda yadda..."I was just fishing when I said that"...blah blah...and then I told her "look, I'm not insecure, I know what I've got, but the truth is, girls really want thick cocks, right?"

...she grinned, and I said "that whole motion in the ocean is something girls say to make guys with small dicks feel better isn't it?" with a big smile on my face. She hesitated, and I said..."it's ok...look, I know I satisfy you, right? honesty is the best aphrodisiac, and it's my duty as your man to make sure you're 100% satisfied, so let's investigate that!...being insecure and ignoring your desires just to satisfy my own ego is a good way to ruin our sex life!" I couldn't believe I said that afterwards, but it was just flowing at the time because I was pretty loaded

...she smiled, and admitted that "bigger is always better". I was EXTREMELY surprised to hear this prudish little princess say that.

..she smiled, and I said I was going to buy her really big dildos to play with when I was gone. I told her it was ok, and that I wanted to cater to her ultimate satisfaction. She started saying things like "so it's ok, as long as you get to join in when you get home, right?" And when I started implying that guys need to fuck her right, she said "real guys?" I sensed hesitation, so I said "no, real guys in the past, and in play," and she responded, playfully "well I was going to say, that's a first!"

... I'm getting to the point, I swear...next post ....

 

[Anubis_30]

...so anyway, she still has zero ability to initiate sex. She always says "I don't want to bother you, you seem so busy". I really wish she would start it, because all of my ex's and some of my "one-nighters/weekers" were pro-active about initiating sex and quite aggressive.

BUT, she responds to me almost time I initiate it. Like I said though, it's boring. She responds to me, and follows my lead, whichever direction I take it (biting, grabbing, etc) - but it's just parroting.

I found, though, that ANY time I bring up her getting nailed by another guy, she is immediately responsive. So much so, that it turns out when she said "oh, that would be a first" she was saying it in an interested way.

The girl WANTS to get nailed. We started talking about it, and anything I threw out there, she was interested in. I said the following as if I wholeheartedly believed it, just to test where she was, sexually:

I said "hot girls have a desire to be hunted by alpha males, like the animal kingdom...to be desired, don't they?" She responded "of course"

I said "physically perfect, sexy females are wired to be responsive to sexually dominant, well built, well hung alpha males, aren't they?" She responded "yes"

So I am getting the impression that this girl is looking to, or already has, been fucked hard. Here's the thing, she's living in another state right now, and we talk about her coming to be with me, but doesn't want to move back across the country without a commitment. She is happy about my statement that "sex is sex, and love is love...your carnal instincts do not bother me, and we will have fun exploring that together...if I try to avoid your instincts and change you, it will ultimately drive us apart" just to see how she reacts. She, of course, reacts very favorably...

 

[Anubis_30]

So my question to you guys is, is she just going along with what I say? Is she already getting it when we're apart? she's living with her parents over there, btw.

She sounds very offended if I even hint at wanting her to do this while she's away from me. "You would want that?!" with a 'shocked' tone.

But she will get get "happy and interested" when we talk on the phone about her being "dominated" (she loves that term) and her being "defiant" (she talks getting very turned on by the thought of fucking a guy, and me saying he can't cum inside, and having him pull out, squirt on her pussy, then just shoving it back in and clutching her hard as he pumps her full of cum as it leaks out). She gets turned on by some truly naughty stuff!

She once said, when referring to interracial porn, that "you know it's true what they say" but adamantly denies being attracted to black guys or having any experience with them. She said she knows from living overseas, and someone telling her that.

She also got really turned on by a conversation we had where, after talking through some naughtiness with her earlier, she got REALLY turned on by the idea of being fucked and creamed by a well built, well hung guy while I was there, and when I implied it was my turn, handing me some lotion and telling me to "go ahead and take care of yourself" and chuckling with the guy as she sat between his legs, both of them sitting up facing me (I've watched a lot of porn lately haha). (though she said that was mean and she would never do it)

Ultimately, she really likes it when I say our sex life is in her hands and she is in control (I'm kind of turned on by that, but only because she has been this tame prudish girl, who apparently has some WILD fantasies)

Guys/gals, has she done this already? She claims never to have had a one night stand. Never had cum on her face...etc. But she has breast implants, a shaved pussy, and didn't hesitate to take it bareback with a load inside of her the first time we had sex. She is SOOO judgmental of sluts, whores, strippers, etc.

What gives? And why is this a turnon for women, and for me? Thanks for your answers/opinions

 

[Anubis_30]

Some pics...

The current:

The ex wife:

 

[Anubis_30]

Sorry - didn't edit in time. Here they are:


The current is the blonde - thin, light skin, 5'7" 110 lb blonde brazilian..mmh! (001-004).

 

[Anubis_30]

The ex is the brunette, from old camera phone (005-010).

 

[Anubis_30]

Finally, me inside my ex (012-014), and me (015)

 

[Jaxunman]

No two women or men are the same. Your ex sounds like she just wanted to fuck other guys and beat your mind up pretty good with the mindfuck she put on you. She had you conditioned to her sexual desires. From your pics, you don't appear to be lacking in the equipment department. Maybe just a bruised ego from your ex.

Be careful that you don't impose your ex wife's sexual beliefs upon your new gf. Accept her pace and her sexuality as she is. You've thrown it out there to her, now let her either accept it or reject it. Don't force things. Otherwise you are just going to end up mindfucking her for someone else the same way your ex did to you.

 

[duke9555]

i have no illusions that the people depicted
in the photos have any relationship to the OP.....
carry on bitches

 

[Anubis_30]

Sorry duke...I understand your doubt as a lot of people on here are fakes... but this is not one of them 100% real here! Here are some more pics (on vacation with the GF, and during 4th of July last year) ... I will post more in a few minutes

Jax, I appreciate the thoughtful response, and to be honest, I had a lot of the same thoughts in between my fantasies (especially after I cum). She really responds to my conversations about this, but you are completely spot on about the "mind fuck" and I do not want to force her to do anything she doesn't totally want to do...and I don't want to damage her either. If we do anything, I want it to be her idea as much as it is mine

 

[Anubis_30]

A couple pics of me in front of the same house as in the above pics from 4th of July (my house)...more coming...

 

[Anubis_30]

GF with my nephew. Then, going back a few years, the ex with the bulldog puppy we had just bought, and then holding the puppy and my sister's boston, and both of them in the red rider.

Notice that in the pic of my GF on the kitchen floor, the boston is "all growns up"

 

[Anubis_30]

And finally, some more pics of me, including the rest of the pic I posted above, showing the full montey soft

 

[duke9555]

amazing :lol:

 

[mimi27406]

I have not seen a streight answer here! LOL

"Sooo, with that being said... can anyone give me a straight answer as to why women (including my woman/women) are clearly turned on by the throught of being fucked by other men? "



It is a good question, and maybe a professional could tell us, but I doubt it. One thing, though many girls were brought up to be Miss goody two shoes and did not shop around before she married the man suitable to her family and position. Later they feel they have missed something, and want to see what it is. Now a woman who sleeeps around is not a social outcast, as she was a few years ago. This brings us to another telling point, promiscuious women get more attention than stay at home Sue. Monogomy is not a natural trait and women are more open about their desires now than they were. One defination I read once of a slut/hotwife is a woman with the morals of a man. Most men have always played around as if it were their right and talked with other men about their latest pussy. Women are coming into their own. They are exerting their will, because they are not any longer totally dependant on their husbands, The make their own money.

This question makes me wonder, why do some men desire to see their wife with other men, especially black men. This being a Cuckold forum, most have wives that have sex with other men whether the cuck likes it or not. Over and over we hear/read "it makes my cock so hard" to know his woman is screwing other men.

 

[duke9555]

"Sooo, with that being said... can anyone give me a straight answer as to why women (including my woman/women) are clearly turned on by the throught of being fucked by other men? "



It is a good question, and maybe a professional could tell us, but I doubt it. One thing, though many girls were brought up to be Miss goody two shoes and did not shop around before she married the man suitable to her family and position. Later they feel they have missed something, and want to see what it is. Now a woman who sleeeps around is not a social outcast, as she was a few years ago. This brings us to another telling point, promiscuious women get more attention than stay at home Sue. Monogomy is not a natural trait and women are more open about their desires now than they were. One defination I read once of a slut/hotwife is a woman with the morals of a man. Most men have always played around as if it were their right and talked with other men about their latest pussy. Women are coming into their own. They are exerting their will, because they are not any longer totally dependant on their husbands, The make their own money.

This question makes me wonder, why do some men desire to see their wife with other men, especially black men. This being a Cuckold forum, most have wives that have sex with other men whether the cuck likes it or not. Over and over we hear/read "it makes my cock so hard" to know his woman is screwing other men.

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fascinating

 

[Anubis_30]

Nice response mimi - I think those are some good points.

One update. I talked to her last night, and every time we speak, she become more and more accepting that this is just the way it's going to be. I also sent her the full front shot of me that I posted above, to have something to remember me by and have something to look forward to, and she was a bit distracted after that...she kept going back to that and talking about it as I tried to talk to her about fantasies, lol. Can't be upset about that

Anyway, she said things like how it turns her on to know someone like me is her possession to do with as she pleases, and how she likes the idea of proving she's in control by not letting me have her even if she wants it too...and letting other hot guys who are built like me take her and use her. She wants to be sexually desired and hunted by sexually charged guys with big cocks who are out for the hunt. She described thinking about wearing a tight little short dress with no underwear and stiletto heels, having guys at a club check her out, and then picking one she's interested in and seductively opening her legs to give him a little show Then seeing where it goes from there.

I told her that once a guys animal instincts kick in with a sexy girl, he just wants to fuck her brains out and mark her with his seed by squirting some inside of her. She said "of course...that's the only way." I asked her what if I didn't want someone to do that...and she responded "oh well...you already said I'm in control" in a playful yet assertive way that is totally uncharacteristic of how she was for so long at the beginning.

A couple of months ago when we started talking about this, she said it was fun to fantasize about, but she couldn't really do this. Then a while later she asked whether I thought it could really happen...adding "because I think it could." And now it's not even a question when I talk to her...she says playfully when we talk about fantasy scenarios "ok I'm going to remember this...don't try to change your mind!"

Fun, and strangely arousing...

 

[Custer Laststand]

Answer to you question... whether it's "straight" will have to be judged by you.

D.L. Stevens (/Anubis_30),

Regarding the question with which you began your thread:

.... Can anyone give me a straight answer as to why women (including my woman/women) are clearly turned on by the throught of being fucked by other men?

You aren't the first to pose that question in this forum. I proposed an answer that can be found in post #50, 15 July 2010, of my thread with "On Optimal Cock Size..." on the subject line. It's in the "Cuckolds in the News" section of this forum and is addressed to "Harry;" you can find it here:

http://www.cuckolds.com/forums/cuckolds-news/15824-optimal-cock-size-5.html

I should also say that on further reflection, it seems clear my proposed explanation pertains to the idealized case where all men are presumed similarly endowed and to have similar lovemaking (/sexual) abilities. That is, my proposed explanation is of why a substantial percentage of married women would want to fuck other men in spite of this and, in many instances, would do so.

But as you know, I'm sure, men have widely-varying "endowments" and widely-varying lovemaking (/sexual) abilities based on other factors, including (but not limited to) ability to connect with women in an emotional sense. The subsequent post by "4Julie" (i.e., post #51 of the same thread) illustrates some of these other reasons a woman might want to cuckold her husband... and, in many instances, would do so.

—Custer