Very interesting....
Jorge,
Jorge88 said:
Dear Custer: Thank you for your reply.
You're welcome.
Jorge88 said:
To be honest, I (Jorge) am very dominant.
You mean with respect to other men vis-a-vis your work and other "male activities," I gather....?
Jorge88 said:
But we get along very well because Alicia's personality is basically submissive. But, she needs to be dominant with respect to my attention to her. In other words she needs to be the center of my universe and the center of my life.
Setting aside the contradiction between your first and second sentences: OK.
Jorge88 said:
So, in that I would say she dominates me.
Something like this is what I meant in my post above, which (you said) Alicia strongly disagreed with.
Jorge88 said:
It was hard for me at first. To submit to this domination on her part. Because I am generally very dominant and do not like to be submissive in anything.
Yes, it sounds like a decision and a continuing effort on your part was required, until finally you became accustomed to it and accepted this as your role vis-a-vis Alicia.
Jorge88 said:
But in the end she did dominate me through cuckolding. As soon as she started cuckolding me, everything fell into place. From that moment on, she was the center of my universe and the only thing important for me in life.
Ah-ha! I suspect this phenomenon, which this forum shows is often (perhaps usually) experienced by men when their wives make them their cuckolds, can be considered somewhat analogous to The Golden Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules." In the case of a woman/man relationship, the woman "has the gold" in the sense that with her ovaries and womb she holds the keys to the next generation. That is, without his wife a man cannot pass along his genes along with hers to their progeny. If, however, a married woman shows her husband by taking a lover that she is capable of attracting other men and is willing to do so, suddenly her husband — now her cuckold — realizes she may not cooperate in passing his genes along to their progeny. Rather, she may choose to pass along her lover's genes and hers to *their* progeny, leaving her cuckold high and dry, so to speak, with only the option of raising another man's child.... or other men's children, as the case may be. A variation on this theme, of course, is that the woman may bear, for her cuckold to assist in raising, a combination of children sired by him and by other men. (Apparently this is not unusual.)
Thus, on becoming his wife's cuckold a man realizes that if she is to cooperate in passing his and her genes to the next generation, he had better treat her well.... very well.... and with great respect, and make sure she has no reason to leave him, because otherwise she may choose to pass along only the genes of her lovers to *their* progeny (not his).
You could argue that these considerations have been rendered irrelevant by the advent of birth control. If you did, I would reply that these feelings are deeply embedded in the human genome.... and in any event, birth control is utilized (or not) by the cuckold's wife.
Jorge88 said:
Let me just tell you a story to ilustrate this.
Many years ago when Alicia was 25 she had a very special lover. He had fallen in love with her, and wanted more of her time and attention. So he had the "great" idea of telling Alicia that he would get a woman for me, so that instead of the three of us going out, they could both have more privacy for themselves. The four of us went out (Alicia with him, and me with the new woman, who was beautiful by-the-way). The four of us were in a car. Alicia started kissing and making out with her lover in the front seat, while I began kissing the new girl in the back seat. Alicia suddenly stood up, crossed her arms, and said: "I want to go home". Her lover with a perplexed look asked her, "but why?" She just repeated: "I want to go home." When Alicia and I were finally home alone, we had a big row. Alicia said she never wanted me to go out with another woman again, neither in front of her nor behind her back. How about that?
That's interesting. Could it be this illustrates that the woman in a marriage often feels she has an even stronger interest in her husband not "straying" than the reverse, because if he (you, in this case) goes around fucking other women, that implies he may leave her for one of them, in which case she and her children would be left with no means of support.... regardless of whether her children were (or are in the future) sired by him, or by her lover(s), or by some combination of both....?
In any case, a widespread phenomenon seems to be that if a married woman agrees to take lovers at the urging of her husband, one of her prime concerns — often her highest-priority concern — is for her husband to agree, convincingly, that he will remain faithful as her cuckold and not pursue other women.
Jorge88 said:
To tell the truth, I did not even care about this other woman, because all my lust and desire were for my Alicia. Just a single kiss from Alicia's lips made me forget about any other woman. That is the effect she has over me....
Yes. See my comments in "The Golden Rule" paragraph.
Jorge88 said:
....and over all the men she has been with. .... Best Regards — Jorge
This sounds like a genuine tribute to the compelling nature of Alicia's seductive talents and her continuing charms. My congratulations to you for having attracted — and managing to retain — such a desirable woman.
—Custer
), strongly implies the answer is "yes."