Getting started....

[wileyben]

Hi all,

This is my first post here and I hope someone can give me some good pointers as this is a hard nut to crack.
I have always had a couple of fantasies that involve my wife, but I can't get her to go along. First, I'd really love to eat her pussy after busting a nut in her. Second, I'd love to eat her pussy after someone else has busted a nut in her. This would be best if she went out one evening and brought me back several creampies.
I have told her all of this several times but she doesn't seem interested and chuckles and says that I'm not serious. I have told her that I am serious, but she just refuses to believe me. Should I just forget about these fantasies?

Third, I have performed oral on another guy (once only!) in an adult theater using a condom and would now like to try it without a condom but and am afraid of the associated risks.

So, please write soon as I am waiting for your replies.
-Ben

 

[wileyben]

Thanks dude

I'll keep the forum informed as to how things go.

-Ben

 

[lluucckkyyddoogg]

Start slow and easy

Wiley,

Oneforsure makes a good point about complimenting your wife on her appearance and generally making her feel sexy around you and especially around other men.

She probably won't ever go for it all right away just from you telling her that you want her to. You have to start slow. It was several years of pillow talk and fantasies before my wife and I started to invite other people into our bed.

One thing that I think contributed was like Oneforsure said, I always commented on when other guys were eyeing her up or flirting or clearly interested in sex. But just made play out of it, not a fight or show of jealousy.
We go to a sex shop on occasion and that was always a good source for sexy talk. I would tell her how the single men in there kept eyeing her up. It was the truth! We both found that exciting. Sometimes I would catch a guy adjusting his crotch while looking at her. (I've always had a fantasy that we would pick one of these guys and make his dreams come true...!)

Another thing we did was, I dared my wife to flash her tits at truck drivers, like Girls Gone Wild. She did it once and got a real rush out of it. The trucker blew his horn at her. "Yeah, he would love to get his hands on those." I said.

You have to get her thinking about sex and other men at the same time. After that the next step is to get her thinking about having sex WITH the other men.

But all the while you have to make sure she knows that you don't want her to do this because you want to end the marriage. Your relationship has to be stable and secure for this to work.

And yes there are risks with oral sex. So?
You have to find guys who you can trust. Ask questions in emails. Talk to a guy before hand. You can get an idea how careful he is just from that. Try to find guys who are new to guy on guy sex.
Search around on the internet for ways to reduce the risks. There are things you can do. Too many for me to list here.

Good luck!

 

[Glenn]

Just want to second everything that lluucckkyyddoogg said. Flattery works on everyone, men and women, so definitely go in that direction. Also, be very honest with her, and with yourself. In the beginning, you may not know exactly what it is that you want, but it's good to talk about it in a very open and honest way. Talking will help both of you figure out where all this fantasy stuff might lead. Also, talk about her concerns as well, there will be many. For example, many wives find it difficult to believe that there aren't hidden reasons behind this fantasy. She may need to be convinced that, once you get into this kind of lifestyle, you aren't going to want to have sex with other women. Remember, be honest, if this is a possibility, then tell her so, but make sure she understands that it's not the prime reason. I firmly believe that people appreciate honesty more than anything else, otherwise everything is like a game, and no one can be trusted. By opening up about such fantasies/thoughts we are all putting a lot on the line. Go slowly, it may take time to sink in and for proper feelings to develop.

Just a couple of other comments on what you said:

1) Your wife coming home with creampie IS really really nice, but it may not be like you think/fantasize. In reality, by the time she gets home, all the cream will be gone, as it does leak out quickly. For creampie, it's best to be there with her, so the cream is fresh and still inside her. At least that's how it works best for me.

2) Having already performed oral on a guy tells me two things. You obviously have a bi-sexual reason behind your wife sharing fantasy, nothing wrong with this of course. Also, I get the feeling that your wife doesn't know about this incident, perhaps it was before you were married but you didn't say so I can't comment. In any case, obviously, you need to tell her about this desire at some point. When and how you tell her is something that you will have to figure out. It may be very difficult to tell her about this desire, but it's absolutely necessary. Otherwise, it will cause complications further down the road.

 

[I created a Monster]

Oneforsure is on the money atleast thats how it worked for me.Her dressing sexy and getting attention of others will really turn her on.Maybe some sexy pics of her posted on any number of amature sites will let her see that she is desirable to others as well.( If you do this make sure she is aware of it because if not it may have negative effect)

 

[Saraha]

Ask her how YOU could PROVE ABSOLUTELY THAT YOU ARE SERIOUS?

Talk to her in emotive language like women use.

She needs to know this is not an excuse for you to sneak off and fuck other women.
She needs to know WHY YOU WANT HER TO SET ASIDE HER MARRIAGE VOWS.
She needs to know her marriage with you won't be damaged - can you convince her?

What will YOU DO to REWARD HER if she DOES THIS FOR YOU ?

Are you willing to take over more of the household chores to free her up for dates?

Will you let her choose her dates, and not set curfews, allowing her to stay over night with guys if she is having a really good time?

What say you don't approve of a guy she is going out with?

Can you afford to give her a lot more money to rebuild her dating wardrobe back to her single days?

What happens if she falls in love with guys she dates, and wants to spend a lot more time getting to know them better?

Ask her to write down on paper why she does not want to "go outside her marriage", then give her a written promises over her concerns.

Would you be prepared to sign over some of your assets into her name as a kind of insurance against a marriage breakup after she has tried to "help you get your dream?

Would you be willing to sign a legal document that binds you to certain behavour in a cuckold marriage?

 

[OneForSure]

Any update on how it's going?