Cuckold or Swinger?

[creamy]

Hi,
I`ll keep this brief, allthough it took 2 weeks.
I started chatting to a guy who ask me if I`d like him to cuckold my g/f. I thought it was horny and said yes, he then got me to introduce him to her, via the internet. They would chat and text each other, I would ask him how it was going and offer my help, he never let much go and said very little. Me and my g/f would send each other really steamy texts and couldnt wait to get hold of each other.
Then early one morning she started texting my about her "bull". "Oh youve got a bull", I said. I asked her lots of questions and she kept refering to him as "my bull" and herself as "the slut". I asked him how it was going and he said shes a natural, it wont be long now. He said she was sold on the sex side, but didnt understand cucolding and that it was a way of life she had to understand then she would get immense sexual pleasure.
Later she text me to say he was going to fuck her on his own, then hand her back to me, where I had to clean her in front of him, before he left. It was very humiliating, but so unbelievably horny, for both of us.
He set her little tasks, like masturbating for him, sending pics etc, she shared all this with me and so did he but reluctantly???
I met my g/f for the first time in a week and couldnt wait to fuck. Her "bull" had given instructions that I was not to cum in her, that was for him and guys he would arrange to fuck her once a month!
So what was the first thing I did? Spunk right up inside her! She gigled and said youre not supposed to do that, I gotta tell him now, I`ll probably get punished. Fuck off I told her, your taking this a bit too seriously, who does this cunt think he is? Over the next 12 hours we made love 4 times spunking in her and licking her out, we couldnt leave each other alone.
Well the question is, it was a very horny, erotic, experience. We agreed he was like a bloody peadofile, grooming her, almost brainwashing her, like some religious sect. She is normaly so quick, I cant believe she fell for that bollocks. She fell for a face and cock pic, not even attached to the same body.
Weve deceided we want a threesome, MMF, maybe she will have a guy and I`ll come back when hes gone to clean her, we both like the idea of that, even though there is a bit of humiliation. It seems I can stand loaning her out, but its like I have to be the bull. She come up with a good idea, my reward will be having her after someones fucked her, creampie and all.
So am I/we cut out for cuckolding? Or are we just a horny couple? I thought I wanted it, I still want someone else to fuck her and so does she. We both want a threesome as she wants two cocks, DP and spitroast. Cant say I blame her, cant wait! But its got to be the right person, not some creep.
Answers/advice please.
Thanks all.

 

[Saraha]

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You need to saturate your mind with ideas of what other couples get up to, and you will find yourself being "more allowing" as your wife gets slowly more caught up in the lifestyle. It is natural for your wife to become very addicted in such a short time, because she is doing stuff her wedding vows forbid. Her Bull is experienced, and the sex with him is very exciting to her. She has two men to keep her happy.

You are worried about losing your wife to her Bull, but you gave the Bull permission to e-mail and date your wife. Your wife would feel upset if you now wish to "pull back", because a wife who takes on a lover cannot simply switch off her desires once she has tasted extra cockpower outside side her marriage. If you stop her, she will find a way behind your back to keep her pussy tickled. It won't be deliberate adultery, but just the pull of a Bull meeting her secret cravings on demand.

A lot of wives do not get enough quality sex, and in your case, your wife has accepted a Bull very, very quickly, so she did not need you to arm wrestle her to get her to offer her nakedness to other men.

I think you need to be patient for awhile and see what happens. Some wives change their Bulls quite often once they have cut their teeth on the lifestyle, and have gained awesome confidence.

Yes, the Bull has positioned her fast, but only because she was more than ready to let him have her completely. She is also trying to "give you her gift" of providing you your fantasy - a lot of women say. "no way!"

It can be a shock for some husbands to realise that there are other guys who would swop places with them in a heart beat. Many men take their wives for granted, and other bulls can be waiting for an opportunity to ride her if she has a few "down weeks" of thinking you don't really love her.

A wife can't be held responsible for what happens when her husband persuades her to open up her thighs for other men. Some guys can touch her buttons in ways her husband has not learned about yet. A wife can fall in love with her husband and her lover and her children, so each relationship (you and her) and (her and him) must be allowed to keep their space. You must not put curfews or rules on her time with him, or she will sneak about behind your back.

Try to do more things to show your wife how important she is to you, help about the house and help with the kids if you have any. She can fuck other men and have a great time - but she will always come back to you if she feels if you treat her well and she knows you won't criticise any of the men she chooses to sleep with.

 

[creamy]

Thanks for the replys, interesting.
Saraha, you missed some points. She hasnt been with him at all. She liked the idea, the sex, but didnt want me to be sub. She didnt want to dominate me and she knew the "bull" had more chance of swimming the Atlantic with a cooker on his back, than telling me what to do.
The only thing he got right was telling her I would enjoy cleaning her after he had her. She already knows I want to clean her and is so excited by that, we both agree it will happen. Now is that a sub thing or just sex?

She asked me "he says I`m hes slut, but I`m YOUR slut?". He kept texting her "whats happening", eventually she text back, after 24hrs of hard core sex, " Hes wonderful (me) I love him so much, he doesnt like you, sorry". He text again, "why". I looked at her and she just said no more texts, thats it. Now take me home and fuck me!
We do love each other very much, that short experience seemed to reinforce our bond, our sex life went up several notches, it was a very horny experience for both of us. I was upset the way he pinched my/our pet name for her and the way he lied to me and generaly his crafty, manipulative manner. Thats why I said she can usually see through someone like that, but as you say I gave her the encouragement, she enjoyed the attention, my fault!
So, Cuckold or Swingers? I/we appreciate your views. Thank you.

 

[mimi27406]

Where does swinging end and cucking begin

I feel they are very near the same thing, even though as a swinger the husband is swapping his wife for another mans wife. Are the men not still cucks?

 

[greymaster]

Of course - from a technical definition of the word. Here in this 'lifestyle' it is being given different (and wide ranging) meanings. As was mentioned on another thread, for some there is BDSM elements, for others cross-dressing, many flavours.

I'm not active in this lifestyle at all - except in the 'virtual' world - but I come here to interact with open-minded people and see lots of exhibitionist ladies having fun.

 

[marys_pet]

I feel they are very near the same thing, even though as a swinger the husband is swapping his wife for another mans wife. Are the men not still cucks?

It depends... is the husband free to have extramarital partners also, or just the wife? If both of them are, that's a swinging situation.

2nd case is when only the wife has extramarital sex, but it's primarily at the urging of the husband, he has a great deal of say in who/when she fucks, may even be the one to choose partners for her, is often present, filming, jacking off, etc. That scenario is a hotwife situation.

Cucking usually involves the wife taking the lead in what's going on, on some level. It may involve elements of D/s, or she may have the only say in who/when she fucks, hubby may or may not still have access to her pussy, may or may not be in chastity, etc. This could also involve the case where the wife is going to cheat anyway, and the husband has learned to accept what he can't change as the price of being married to her. But basically, if the wife is taking the lead on what's going on, either with or without her hubby's consent, that's more of a cuck situation.

At this point, expect this to turn into a flame war over dictionary definitions and the whole issue of consent.

 

[carina_halerose]

I feel they are very near the same thing, even though as a swinger the husband is swapping his wife for another mans wife. Are the men not still cucks?

with that said would it not make the women female cucks

 

[SoonToBe]

I agree with Marys-Pet.
For me, cuckolding involves my wife taking a more lead role in her own desires.

 

[mimi27406]

I want to thank all of the persons who responded to this. Mary's-Pet did put it into perspective and I feel pretty much put a handle on it. I think the women are cuckoldress either way.

 

[Saraha]

Females are susposed to have babies with a variety of lovers during their lifetime, so as to ensure that at least one baby is free of genetic imperfection. That perfect baby "carries on the Line" and if it has several babies of its own, the line will never be broken. This is one of the reasons why contraception was banned - and big families were so important.

For some strange reason, the rule was bought in that a man could only have one wife, and this made it EXTREMELY difficult to keep a "perfect genetic line going", because if a husband was infertile or had genetic diseases or other imperfections such as a dull brain, the female line came to a ebrupt stop - with only imperfect genes carrying on.

Have you ever noticed that some families are "long livers" and other families all die much younger?

Society has to get back to "perfect God" which is "love they neighbor's wife" if your neigbor asks you to.

You should not covet your neighbor's wife if he can "take care of her" by sowing good quality seed.

A good cuckold instinctly understands the GOOD NEIGHBOR RULE, a MACHO MAN does not understand because his EGO makes him feel threatened when other guys circle and chat up his trophy wife. He is defying God's genetic rule of spreading around seed.

In early Ages, it was okay to have a number of wives, as long as you could afford to care for them adequately; and you also had to inherit your sister-in-law and her kids and relatives and camels and livestock, and other assets and bank balance and debts if your brother died.

(if you had seven brothers and they all died, your family increased quite dramatically - and you had to fuck like a rabbit to keep up with all the extra pussy you now owned. This is why the rule of obedience for a wife was put in the wedding vows, so a husband could decide which wife was due to sleep with him.

It stopped the jealousy if wives were "owned chattels")........Families had to look after each other, because welfare payments had not been invented back then.

Hitler had a plan to sterilise all humans who carried genetic defects - to breed only from the most perfect genetics. To some extent animals survive in the wild from survival of the fittest; and this accomplished by the slowest (injured) animals providing food for the enemies.

The enemy animals are the "pruning tool" to stop inferior genes surviving.

The strongest animals (perfect genetics) usually get the most opportunities to breed, whilst the poorer genetic animals get little or no chance to pass on their imperfect genes.

 

[Saraha]

Iran has been working on genetic diseases to see if they can repair faulty genes once people are born - this would be a "quantum leap for all mankind" if it is achieved.

America needs to look beyond religion and instead establish empathy and mutual friendships with Iran - the war machines are not required. Iran has much to offer the world - and they need the chance to offer, so we can create Heaven on Earth.

Peace can only happen if foes are shaking hands, and each taking turns to shout a beer.

 

[creamy]

Saraha,
Ive never read such a load of bollocks in all my life, where do you get your ideas from? You should change your dealer,`cos the drugs dont work... or was it one too many trips when you were young?
When a man sees something hes never seen before he thinks 3 things. Is it a threat, can I eat it, can I fuck it?
The thought in our heads most of our waking hours is, I could fuck her, shes nice I`d fuck her, I gonna fuck her. Men by their nature want to fuck anything going, it dont take much to tempt us, an ugly woman in a miniskirt is still fuckable. You just dont get it do you? eg Henry the VIII, fucked anything, wherever he went, if it had a pussy, hed fuck it. Men, since time began, have had as many women as they could.
And when it comes to imperfections women are just as guilty, so that must be why men go around planting their seed in anyone who will let them. So how many clever women in history are there? Either it be sciences, engineering, inventions, medicine, politics or war, you could write their names on a postage stamp!
The most recent craze among young women in the UK of binge drinking, while scantily clad, is great for men. You dont even have to talk to them now, just fuck them. I agree women have three holes that can be used and a man only one cock, but you can get your mates to help. And most of us are proud of or women and take it as a compliment when guys look at them, its not a threat as you seem to think. Most women dont want to be spit-roast every night, but men dont stop thinking about it.
I started a thread myself "Cuckold or Swinger?" where I asked this same question. Swinging is when the man stays incharge, getting men to fuck his woman, or swapping partners. Quite a lot of men enjoy their woman getting fucked, but at the end of the evening you can walk away. Cuckoldind humiliates you and you are stuck with it, no choice. Then there is her affair, another form of threesome, devious, cheating and your`e the last to know, your`e still humiliated, but unlike cuckolding you have a choice, fuck her off out of it!

 

[melanieandryan]

With us at first it was just casual dates with her men, and they had the say so. Now she dictates the terms and boundries about 90% of the time, with her bulls having leeway in the area of control as well.

I, on the other hand go with the flow. So I guess ours slowly evolved into cuckolding.

 

[mimi27406]

Sahara, some may not agree with you, but you have done some reserch, and formed valid conclusions. Every one has opinions, and that is what makes this medium great.
When others stop, in the middle of the night, and think they will see where you are comming from, I did not say they would agree, but it will open eyes to possibilities.

 

[mimi27406]

Humm are you a biker by chance

With us at first it was just casual dates with her men, and they had the say so. Now she dictates the terms and boundries about 90% of the time, with her bulls having leeway in the area of control as well.

I, on the other hand go with the flow. So I guess ours slowly evolved into cuckolding.

That is the natural progression.

 

[mimi27406]

I am afraid you are right

It depends... is the husband free to have extramarital partners also, or just the wife? If both of them are, that's a swinging situation.

2nd case is when only the wife has extramarital sex, but it's primarily at the urging of the husband, he has a great deal of say in who/when she fucks, may even be the one to choose partners for her, is often present, filming, jacking off, etc. That scenario is a hotwife situation.

Cucking usually involves the wife taking the lead in what's going on, on some level. It may involve elements of D/s, or she may have the only say in who/when she fucks, hubby may or may not still have access to her pussy, may or may not be in chastity, etc. This could also involve the case where the wife is going to cheat anyway, and the husband has learned to accept what he can't change as the price of being married to her. But basically, if the wife is taking the lead on what's going on, either with or without her hubby's consent, that's more of a cuck situation.

At this point, expect this to turn into a flame war over dictionary definitions and the whole issue of consent.

I do not want it to get into a discusions of vocabulary/definations, but true heart felt feelings.

 

[newsub4a]

I would say your desires make you more of a swinger than a cuckold, although the technical definition of a cuckold is a man with an unfaithful wife (and you are not yet married...)

Call it whatever you like, because ultimately what really matters is that you and your GF like it and it gets you off! Just be sure not to loose sight of the one most important thing... your relationship. Sex (kinky or vanilla) is important, but only as a way to strengthen the bonds that are between the two of you. Among other things, you also need trust, understanding, emotional security and a willingness to sacrifice for your partner in order to make everything connect.

Building a sustainable marriage is tough, but is possible as long as both people are committed.

Good luck and have lots of kinky fun!

 

[mimi27406]

Do we not all march to a different drummer?

 

[s_zip99]

Two threads merged ...

... and I hope they are still readable ...

 

[Saraha]

When men accept a CB3000, they start to fear they might not get sex again, and so they start to treat their wife in the same way they did when they were first dating. The passion comes back into the marriage - ask Elsie Sutton about this.

A man on a sex ration, sure appreciates the quality of the sex, when he finally "gets it".

If same-gender sex was legislated for, then females could enjoy each other's body, but men would have to get over the stress of a gay relationship if they wanted someone to touch them. The truth is that 80% of men would struggle to survive very well without a woman to hug and cuddle.

If men were only allowed Sex on Saturday nights, you could bet they would be in bed early on Friday night, and would only jerk themselves from Sunday to Wednesday. They would want to "go into action" feeling rested and full of sperm.