Two kinds of slut wives?

[AlbanySearching]

In my years of fucking men's wives, I've come across, in general, one kind of woman: The strong, confident, sexy hotwife who loves fucking and loves rubbing her husband's face in it, both literally and figuratively.

However, recently I've started running across another kind of hotwife. The women who feel worthless and angry with themselves for needed another man to fuck them, and who apologize to their husband each and every time another man makes them cum.

Have any of you bulls encountered the second kind of hot wife? They're definitely interesting to be with, but I'm wondering why I've just started finding out about them now.

 

[I created a Monster]

I guess mine is a bit of both or atleast she strated out that way.At first she would apologize to me each and every time a man fucked her or after she gave some random guy a BJ .Now she is more like the first you described at most times,once in a great while she will feel bad and apologize but it doesn't stop her from doing it again the next weekend.

 

[AlbanySearching]

I'm going to have to agree that the second kind of wife can eventually become the first kind, if you treat them correctly. It's very uncommon for the unapologetic slutwife to suddenly become overwhelmed with a chronic case of conscience, but the guilty ones can definitely relapse even if you work very hard to push the husband down.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one with experience on this matter. Most of the stories you hear have the wife basically saying "other men are going to fuck me now, if you don't like it, that's too bad." It somehow seems more real when the wife knows it's wrong but just can't help it.

 

[fun4strangers]

interesting thread

 

[Stirling]

This is basic sexual psychology, and not at all uncommon.

Remember, a single woman is looking to find the best possible father for her children. Just as mainstream pornography focuses on the male ideal of unlimited sexual access to young and nubile women, mainstream romance novels (which are basically porn for women) focus on exclusive sexual committment from a strong and powerful man. I've discussed elsewhere the underlying drives that lead to this divergence of interests of, but what it boils down to is - a man will happily fuck a woman he wouldn't consider marrying, while a woman will reluctantly marry a man she'd rather not fuck. Research has shown that about 1 in 10 men rate "alpha" in the eyes of women, which mean that 9 out of 10 women are compromising their instincts in their mate choice.

Which explains all those wedding pictures where you can't understand how such gorgeous young brides wind up beside these unpromising dweebs.

So you might think such women would be eager to upgrade their genetic chances by stepping out on hubby. However - marriage is a huge deal to a woman. Her instincts and all of society tell her she should be marrying Prince Alpha von-Studlyrich. Winding up with Larry from Accounting represents a huge failure on this level. She ranks a lot of her self-worth based on her mate choice (so do men of course) - but unlike a man who has a one-nighter with a coyote-girl and doesn't tell his friends, her choice is both public and permanent. So as is common in humans, denial kicks in.

"He's got a great future, he's good in bed, he's well hung." she tells her girlfriends and herself. Actually all of these things are woefully average. Nevertheless, she will resolutely defend her man, and strongly resist the idea that she could do better. Because - if she do better, she SHOULD have done better, and she doesn't want to believe that.

So - wives often take a lot of convincing to overcome this, and it takes them a while to adjust to the idea that they really can have the best of both worlds - support from Larry Loser, and sex from von Studlyrich. While they're going through the transition - they're going to have to deal with the cognitive dissonance that happens when their actions don't line up with their internal belief system. Hence angry, apologetic, and generally messed up.

Once they get their heads around it though - well, too bad for Larry...

 

[Trisquel]

Great Commentary Stirling

So you might think such women would be eager to upgrade their genetic chances by stepping out on hubby.

Here is something I don't quite understand. Many times, perhaps most, hotwives and swingers aren't actually seeking to become pregnant by their lovers. Some are past their child-bearing years. Instead, what they mostly seek is satisfying sex with an alpha. The alpha experience beckons, and when the genie is out of the bottle so to speak, womens' natural wantonness takes control. So when a wife seeks and obtains her "bit on the side" from an alpha, and pregnancy is not sought for, what does alpha gene-trolling have to do with anything?

 

[Trisquel]

Interesting Commentary

"Most women are literally oblivious to the underlying motivations of their sexual selections. Evolution has largely selected for human females with a capacity to form psychological schemas that preserve an ego-investment that would otherwise afflict them with debilitating anxiety, guilt, and the stresses that result from being continuously, consciously aware of their own incongruities. Evolution selects for solipsistic women who are blissfully ******* of their solipsism." --Rollo Tomassi

Chicks Dig Jerks: The Veil Of Self-Deception Chateau Heartiste

Echoes somewhat Stirling's comment.

 

[leftbehind]

I am not sure there are rules or natural laws
set in stone about these things. I think Stirling
may have some mystical insider knowledge but
marriage is, after all, a man-made gadget. An
institution formulated so that blood lines remain
pure, communities keep their borders and classes
retain their privilege. Further rules were slapped
on to assure all these things and to assure that
the off springs stay within the group / community.
I am no authority. Just my take on the whole thing.
I will say that my wife married me for none of the
reasons stated above. She was under aged and
would had been returned into a bad situation had
we not married. In our case, sex is not an issue.
She is a **********. All in all our 54 years together;
44 years of marriage have been blissful for us two
because we are close friends - no other reason.
Therefore I believe in simply methods: good solid
men make good solid leaders. Proper soil PH grows
healthy food. Chicken eggs contain what you fed them.
Friends make the best neighbors and spouses.
If your spouse rubs your nose in your failure to
stand up to your original obligation or, as on the
other hand your spouse suffers the indignity of throwing
Peter Pan out the window to become something s/he
hadn’t planned for - none of these spouses can be
called friends.

 

[Stirling]

Human behaviour is governed by instinct, not logic. A woman's instincts are shaped by her genes. They drive her to seek sex with alpha males because that is what is best for her genes.

Logically, it makes no sense for a woman on birth-control to seek alpha-sex since she can't get pregnant by him. However her instincts don't know she's on birth control. What her instincts know is that a million years worth of her female ancestors succeeded in producing her by presenting their pussies for alpha cock.

For men, (to a first approximation) the formula for reproductive success is more women=more offspring. For women the tradeoffs are FAR more complex. What they might SAY or even FEEL really means little. What counts is what she DOES. A woman's behaviour is driven by her hindbrain. Later on her forebrain rationalizes what she did in a way that makes some kind of sense to her internal belief system. And later still society as-a-whole invents some totally bullshit framework to constrain relationships in a way that serves its own purposes.

I'll quote Trisquel's link...

"...The biological truth of the matter is women bear far too much long term risk in potential breeding and parental investments to ever be objectively honest with themselves about what is actually motivating their sexual selections. It is not in the best interests of the feminine imperative that men even be given the inclination of being made aware of how this selection process operates. In fact, this deception is of such primary importance to the feminine breeding methodology that the female psyche evolved its own self-deceptive psychological schemas to preserve the female ego while enacting it."

Now this is focused on women, but I don't want to leave the impression that men are also not full of self-deception, nor that all women are slaves to it. However that doesn't matter here. What matters are the key questions every man has to ask himself. Are you going to buy into her self-deceptive belief system and play Cinderella? Are you going buy into society's bullshit framework and divide women into the pure and the slutty?

Or are you going to tap into her instincts and fuck her the way she needs to be fucked?

 

[duke9555]

~ variety is the spice of life ~

 

[Custer Laststand]

Here is something I don't quite understand. Many times, perhaps most, hotwives and swingers aren't actually seeking to become pregnant by their lovers. Some are past their child-bearing years. Instead, what they mostly seek is satisfying sex with an alpha. The alpha experience beckons, and when the genie is out of the bottle so to speak, womens' natural wantonness takes control. So when a wife seeks and obtains her "bit on the side" from an alpha, and pregnancy is not sought, what does alpha gene-trolling have to do with anything?

See Chapt. 7, "Shopping Around for Genes," pp. 117-162, in:

Baker, Robin, Ph.D., 1996, "Sperm Wars: The Science of Sex," 317 pp. (hardcover).

Many of the observations and comments posted recently by Stirling in this forum are supported, in a scientific sense, by Baker... including, in particular:

Human behaviour is governed by instinct, not logic. A woman's instincts are shaped by her genes. They drive her to seek sex with alpha males because that is what is best for her genes. Logically, it makes no sense for a woman on birth-control to seek alpha-sex since she can't get pregnant by him. However her instincts don't know she's on birth control. What her instincts know is that a million years worth of her female ancestors succeeded in producing her by presenting their pussies for alpha cock.