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Happy New Year STB!
A long time lurker wants to wish you the best for the New Year and to remind you that your experiences are far more inspirational than you may realize. While none of us are living with your exact situations, many of us are experiencing some aspects. It is nice to read about your thoughts and experiences laid out so honestly and plainly. It certainly makes me and my experiences and desires feel less crazy, and comforting to know I am not alone in having a 'non-traditional' relationship.
Thank you and good wishes for the New Year!
DR13
A long time lurker wants to wish you the best for the New Year and to remind you that your experiences are far more inspirational than you may realize. While none of us are living with your exact situations, many of us are experiencing some aspects. It is nice to read about your thoughts and experiences laid out so honestly and plainly. It certainly makes me and my experiences and desires feel less crazy, and comforting to know I am not alone in having a 'non-traditional' relationship.
Thank you and good wishes for the New Year!
DR13
IMO, you should embrace and see how much of the beta role you can handle through the next few months. In my opinion, your wife is truly concerned about your needs and desires, and is trying to attempt to handle what to most people would be a very conflicting set of desires (denial + sexual intimacy).
One area you could work on with her would be to look at implementing tease and denial and edging, and you can use the idea behind semen retention, which is used in some tantric practices. That way you can show and make her understand that you "do want" sexual intimacy and al ot of it, but not in the traditional way (as that is for Paul). This combined with semen retention could lead to some of the most explosive orgasms you have seen. Something that is written for women by a woman, that maybe a bit more aggressive then you desire, can be found at http://flr101.blogspot.com.
Don't know if that helps, but as others have stated ... your updates and your life experiences are very impressive. Happy New Year to you, and don't take to much into the nay-sayers, as they are meaning extremely well as they are concerned for you. I take this based on the fact that you state your wife and you have good communication.
One area you could work on with her would be to look at implementing tease and denial and edging, and you can use the idea behind semen retention, which is used in some tantric practices. That way you can show and make her understand that you "do want" sexual intimacy and al ot of it, but not in the traditional way (as that is for Paul). This combined with semen retention could lead to some of the most explosive orgasms you have seen. Something that is written for women by a woman, that maybe a bit more aggressive then you desire, can be found at http://flr101.blogspot.com.
Don't know if that helps, but as others have stated ... your updates and your life experiences are very impressive. Happy New Year to you, and don't take to much into the nay-sayers, as they are meaning extremely well as they are concerned for you. I take this based on the fact that you state your wife and you have good communication.
With one of our kids now back home, finding time to update today was harder than expected.
I will start a new thread here when I have more time but we took a significant detour this weekend which I'll attempt to summarize.
Paul did spend a good part of New Years Eve and New Years Day with us. I'll say that if I thought I'd seen them being sexual before, then they must have turned it up a bit for this weekend. The main thing I saw much more of - and Sue getting quite pleasantly ***** on New Years Eve surely added to it by relaxing her inhibitions even more - but the thing that I saw (and heard) several times was Paul fucking her and getting her to cum and then pulling out of her and - by the time midnight was upon us - her eagerly wanting him more and more.
I cannot explain how intense seeing that was at one extreme and the other being that it made me feel on top of the world that when the ball dropped and 2017 arrived, that she immediately turned to me and kissed me passionately and very intimately where she whispered she loved me and then said thank you. We kissed once more before she turned back to him and gave him a New Years kiss. We all toasted the new years with champagne - which, in addition to a little of the funny-tobacco Paul had brought along, had rendered Sue incredibly horny - and both the bubbles and alcohol loosening her tongue, she was a bit more vocal than usual and teased me to "come closer and watch" and after they'd gotten started - she pushed him off and said "I want you upstairs" and motioned for him to follow her. As she walked away she turned back towards me and opened her robe and showed me her lingerie she had on and said something about coming up and seeing it up close. She had somehow changed when I wasn't looking and now looked incredibly hot in just a very skimpy lacy top and barely-there panties. As Paul followed her she said out loud "come one baby, this is what you wanted" and she turned and went upstairs.
I can't take the time to describe everything in full, Paul was significantly more candid with me including asking me if I could see several times. When she was lying there naked before he entered her for what I figured was going to be the last time she spread her legs and looked at me and said something like "I think I'm ready" or at least that's what my brain heard - but it was what I saw that really got to me. They'd been fucking a lot since he got there and I can only say that the word "open" is but one word to describe how her pussy looked. She pulled one knee back just a little and rubbed her finger down there and I could see into her vagina - I guess "gaping" is another word - but it didn't look gross or anything like that - no - instead it just looked beautiful - and with just that one momentary glance at it - I knew exactly how she must have felt - that little bit of resistance to push into her was clearly gone. I didn't even realize it until I looked up at her and saw her smile that I realized I was not just also smiling, but my cock was hard too.
She put her hand out as Paul moved in between her legs and he just seemed so comfortable pushing her other knee back and sort of spitting on his hand and then lubing up his cock. He smiled at me when I looked up at him and she said something about "...I'm already wet enough..." which just set me off. She put her hand out and I felt her hold my hand tightly as she moaned and I watched him enter her again.
I cannot find the words to describe how it felt to see him fuck her. My own cock was hard and I slid my boxers down and slowly had my own fun. Seeing the champagne glasses and hearing people in the distance setting off fireworks - I know it sounds crazy but I loved seeing him pull out of her almost all the way just as I looked back at the bed. He smiled at me and he said something like "she was right" which I didn't understand until he pushed all the way into her and I realized he meant that she WAS wet enough.
Thing was - I loved watching him and he was very cool about it. She was thrashing about and even he knew the alcohol had her even more worked up than usual but she was loving it - there was no doubt about that. All I could do was smile and I think I told him something like "she likes you doing her". Yes I did miss it being me in her and making her scream and moan and have her own fireworks - but at the same time, it was just amazing to let her go like that. She had long let go of my hand - her hands going from pulling him close at one point around his back to her pushing him away with her arms outstretched as I realized she was thrusting herself upwards at him. She orgasmed several times before it was him who turned to me and said, or rather moaned ".... mmm..... not long now". I know he was saying it to both of us but at the same time it was erotic hearing him announce it.
And yes, I did watch. I wanted to and I would even say I had to. I honestly loved ( and still do - and am hard again thinking about it again ) seeing him arch his back and push into her deep and stay there and yet I could still almost feel him pushing into her. Even right now I'm rock hard thinking of his cock in her so deep and his cum once again filling her like that.
So - here's the funky part.
I spent part of the night with them again - she was out like a light not long after cumming one last huge time with him and spewing out all sorts of 4-letter words. The last of the champagne had hit her and she was slurring her words a bit as she hugged me and kissed me good night before again, turning towards him and pulling him closer as she pulled the covers up.
Lying there next to them it started to get to me. I wasn't sure how I felt but the next morning - Sunday morning - when the first thing I heard was them going at it - I started to feel it more sharply. They were barely awake but he was already in her and when I opened the door a bit to look in she was rubbing herself while he was spooned from behind her and he was obviously fucking her. I was concerned at first but then I could hear the slick squishing sound and I realized she was quite wet.
It wasn't even then that got to me. No, it was him going at her one last time before he left on Sunday evening that finally got to me. I was amazed that he could cum yet another time but then I realized he'd only cum once the night before. They lay together and I wasn't sure if he was leaving soon or not so I left them alone for a little while. Sure enough I heard noises in the bathroom and I assumed they were both in there together. I realized I was wrong when Paul came out of the bedroom fully dressed alone. We talked for a bit more - which I'll share later on - but he told me that he'd had a great time and that he hoped I was okay about everything. As I said, we're able to talk a little more openly and I told him I was happy he'd gotten to spend the new year with us. Yes, we talked about more but that's the gist of it.
No - the real change was when I went into the bedroom and she was still lying there half under the covers not ignoring me but not really thinking much about me either. I don't know what I was thinking but I knelt next to her on the bed and I pushed the blankets down to just reveal her nipples and I started to gently play with them. I wasn't sure what was going on but I knew she wasn't saying no and I loved feeling her nipples feeling swollen and hearing her moan softly as I gently pinched them. But as I said, the real change was when I pushed the blankets down further. I don't know if she realized what she was doing but as her stomach and then hips and then her pussy and thighs and then her legs came into view, that my hands followed along and when I got to her hips - I think it was instinctive - but she spread her legs.
At that moment, I got to see my wife's used body. Mainly her used pussy. Swollen, deep dark pink on the outside but where she was still spread open, it was crimson read with a thin shine of wetness. I can say that I felt very much as I felt when I was away that week - that I truly needed to feel her. And I told her so - I told her that I coudn't take it and that I had to have her. She opened her eyes wide and asked me "are you sure?" and I just simply said "yes" and of all things suprising - she said "okay" and a moment later she pulled her legs fully back for me.
Of course I reached immediately for a condom and she smiled as I rolled it into place and she teased "... it feels 'used' baby.... " (referring to her pussy) and as I entered her I had to agree. I can only say that I felt that alpha-male return for a bit there at the beginning - which was amazing to feel with her as she did cum very easily - but I can also say that once I felt her body respond and I heard her murmur that she loved me, the physical turned to emotional for sure - and I know that I very much enjoyed making love with my wife.
So - we didn't wait for tonight as planned and instead we talked most of today and I told her that if they behave like this on the ski trips, that I am likely going to feel the same way - and I told her that it was awesome to feel that desire for her.
Gotta get some sleep - happy 2017 - lol - this was longer than I thought - she's probably dozed off by now.
I will start a new thread here when I have more time but we took a significant detour this weekend which I'll attempt to summarize.
Paul did spend a good part of New Years Eve and New Years Day with us. I'll say that if I thought I'd seen them being sexual before, then they must have turned it up a bit for this weekend. The main thing I saw much more of - and Sue getting quite pleasantly ***** on New Years Eve surely added to it by relaxing her inhibitions even more - but the thing that I saw (and heard) several times was Paul fucking her and getting her to cum and then pulling out of her and - by the time midnight was upon us - her eagerly wanting him more and more.
I cannot explain how intense seeing that was at one extreme and the other being that it made me feel on top of the world that when the ball dropped and 2017 arrived, that she immediately turned to me and kissed me passionately and very intimately where she whispered she loved me and then said thank you. We kissed once more before she turned back to him and gave him a New Years kiss. We all toasted the new years with champagne - which, in addition to a little of the funny-tobacco Paul had brought along, had rendered Sue incredibly horny - and both the bubbles and alcohol loosening her tongue, she was a bit more vocal than usual and teased me to "come closer and watch" and after they'd gotten started - she pushed him off and said "I want you upstairs" and motioned for him to follow her. As she walked away she turned back towards me and opened her robe and showed me her lingerie she had on and said something about coming up and seeing it up close. She had somehow changed when I wasn't looking and now looked incredibly hot in just a very skimpy lacy top and barely-there panties. As Paul followed her she said out loud "come one baby, this is what you wanted" and she turned and went upstairs.
I can't take the time to describe everything in full, Paul was significantly more candid with me including asking me if I could see several times. When she was lying there naked before he entered her for what I figured was going to be the last time she spread her legs and looked at me and said something like "I think I'm ready" or at least that's what my brain heard - but it was what I saw that really got to me. They'd been fucking a lot since he got there and I can only say that the word "open" is but one word to describe how her pussy looked. She pulled one knee back just a little and rubbed her finger down there and I could see into her vagina - I guess "gaping" is another word - but it didn't look gross or anything like that - no - instead it just looked beautiful - and with just that one momentary glance at it - I knew exactly how she must have felt - that little bit of resistance to push into her was clearly gone. I didn't even realize it until I looked up at her and saw her smile that I realized I was not just also smiling, but my cock was hard too.
She put her hand out as Paul moved in between her legs and he just seemed so comfortable pushing her other knee back and sort of spitting on his hand and then lubing up his cock. He smiled at me when I looked up at him and she said something about "...I'm already wet enough..." which just set me off. She put her hand out and I felt her hold my hand tightly as she moaned and I watched him enter her again.
I cannot find the words to describe how it felt to see him fuck her. My own cock was hard and I slid my boxers down and slowly had my own fun. Seeing the champagne glasses and hearing people in the distance setting off fireworks - I know it sounds crazy but I loved seeing him pull out of her almost all the way just as I looked back at the bed. He smiled at me and he said something like "she was right" which I didn't understand until he pushed all the way into her and I realized he meant that she WAS wet enough.
Thing was - I loved watching him and he was very cool about it. She was thrashing about and even he knew the alcohol had her even more worked up than usual but she was loving it - there was no doubt about that. All I could do was smile and I think I told him something like "she likes you doing her". Yes I did miss it being me in her and making her scream and moan and have her own fireworks - but at the same time, it was just amazing to let her go like that. She had long let go of my hand - her hands going from pulling him close at one point around his back to her pushing him away with her arms outstretched as I realized she was thrusting herself upwards at him. She orgasmed several times before it was him who turned to me and said, or rather moaned ".... mmm..... not long now". I know he was saying it to both of us but at the same time it was erotic hearing him announce it.
And yes, I did watch. I wanted to and I would even say I had to. I honestly loved ( and still do - and am hard again thinking about it again ) seeing him arch his back and push into her deep and stay there and yet I could still almost feel him pushing into her. Even right now I'm rock hard thinking of his cock in her so deep and his cum once again filling her like that.
So - here's the funky part.
I spent part of the night with them again - she was out like a light not long after cumming one last huge time with him and spewing out all sorts of 4-letter words. The last of the champagne had hit her and she was slurring her words a bit as she hugged me and kissed me good night before again, turning towards him and pulling him closer as she pulled the covers up.
Lying there next to them it started to get to me. I wasn't sure how I felt but the next morning - Sunday morning - when the first thing I heard was them going at it - I started to feel it more sharply. They were barely awake but he was already in her and when I opened the door a bit to look in she was rubbing herself while he was spooned from behind her and he was obviously fucking her. I was concerned at first but then I could hear the slick squishing sound and I realized she was quite wet.
It wasn't even then that got to me. No, it was him going at her one last time before he left on Sunday evening that finally got to me. I was amazed that he could cum yet another time but then I realized he'd only cum once the night before. They lay together and I wasn't sure if he was leaving soon or not so I left them alone for a little while. Sure enough I heard noises in the bathroom and I assumed they were both in there together. I realized I was wrong when Paul came out of the bedroom fully dressed alone. We talked for a bit more - which I'll share later on - but he told me that he'd had a great time and that he hoped I was okay about everything. As I said, we're able to talk a little more openly and I told him I was happy he'd gotten to spend the new year with us. Yes, we talked about more but that's the gist of it.
No - the real change was when I went into the bedroom and she was still lying there half under the covers not ignoring me but not really thinking much about me either. I don't know what I was thinking but I knelt next to her on the bed and I pushed the blankets down to just reveal her nipples and I started to gently play with them. I wasn't sure what was going on but I knew she wasn't saying no and I loved feeling her nipples feeling swollen and hearing her moan softly as I gently pinched them. But as I said, the real change was when I pushed the blankets down further. I don't know if she realized what she was doing but as her stomach and then hips and then her pussy and thighs and then her legs came into view, that my hands followed along and when I got to her hips - I think it was instinctive - but she spread her legs.
At that moment, I got to see my wife's used body. Mainly her used pussy. Swollen, deep dark pink on the outside but where she was still spread open, it was crimson read with a thin shine of wetness. I can say that I felt very much as I felt when I was away that week - that I truly needed to feel her. And I told her so - I told her that I coudn't take it and that I had to have her. She opened her eyes wide and asked me "are you sure?" and I just simply said "yes" and of all things suprising - she said "okay" and a moment later she pulled her legs fully back for me.
Of course I reached immediately for a condom and she smiled as I rolled it into place and she teased "... it feels 'used' baby.... " (referring to her pussy) and as I entered her I had to agree. I can only say that I felt that alpha-male return for a bit there at the beginning - which was amazing to feel with her as she did cum very easily - but I can also say that once I felt her body respond and I heard her murmur that she loved me, the physical turned to emotional for sure - and I know that I very much enjoyed making love with my wife.
So - we didn't wait for tonight as planned and instead we talked most of today and I told her that if they behave like this on the ski trips, that I am likely going to feel the same way - and I told her that it was awesome to feel that desire for her.
Gotta get some sleep - happy 2017 - lol - this was longer than I thought - she's probably dozed off by now.
Steve,
It seems your new year went pretty much to plan to me, I can't see an overwhelming desire for your own wife after so long and so much visual and mental stimulation as being anything other than normal for you, whatever the original plan was. As you say though, it is going to make two ski weekends without that release somewhat strained. If you don't end up making love during that time, I suspect you are going to have to masturbate with them to get some release. You've done that before, but it's been a while now.
Whilst I'm glad overall that you both went with the flow on Sunday morning I do have one concern. For you that event was natural and in the moment. You were feeling an 'overwhelming desire' and you acted on it. It was good for you as a result. Sue, on the other hand, was feeling worn out. She used the phrase 'used', but she had just enjoyed a marathon session with Paul and must have been feeling a little tired and sore when you started. I'm sure she enjoyed it but the experience can't have been as special for her as it was for you. You need to think about 2017 in that way. Whilst I don't believe you will only achieve 4-6 releases in her, it is likely to be a small number if you continue as you are. Just consider what that small number of times is likely to feel like to Sue. As many releases in her as Paul may get in a month when he starts staying over, and each of his is bare, and thus always more special to Sue. Whatever you get from it, your love making is likely to be seen as insignificant to Sue if it isn't already. That may be partly behind her question, 'Are you sure'.
As you stare down the barrel of the year ahead, I would ask you the same question.
It seems your new year went pretty much to plan to me, I can't see an overwhelming desire for your own wife after so long and so much visual and mental stimulation as being anything other than normal for you, whatever the original plan was. As you say though, it is going to make two ski weekends without that release somewhat strained. If you don't end up making love during that time, I suspect you are going to have to masturbate with them to get some release. You've done that before, but it's been a while now.
Whilst I'm glad overall that you both went with the flow on Sunday morning I do have one concern. For you that event was natural and in the moment. You were feeling an 'overwhelming desire' and you acted on it. It was good for you as a result. Sue, on the other hand, was feeling worn out. She used the phrase 'used', but she had just enjoyed a marathon session with Paul and must have been feeling a little tired and sore when you started. I'm sure she enjoyed it but the experience can't have been as special for her as it was for you. You need to think about 2017 in that way. Whilst I don't believe you will only achieve 4-6 releases in her, it is likely to be a small number if you continue as you are. Just consider what that small number of times is likely to feel like to Sue. As many releases in her as Paul may get in a month when he starts staying over, and each of his is bare, and thus always more special to Sue. Whatever you get from it, your love making is likely to be seen as insignificant to Sue if it isn't already. That may be partly behind her question, 'Are you sure'.
As you stare down the barrel of the year ahead, I would ask you the same question.
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